Offseason Thread

[VikingLord]

I haven’t read every post in this thread so if it has been hashed over before forgive me. I have mixed emotions on Kewsi mostly good but man these drafts haven’t been good, but they weren’t exactly great under speilman either. What has the organization done about the scouting department? I don’t know the process but I’m sure Kewsi has many people he relies on to get things right are any of them hold overs from the previous gm. I don’t have the data but I remember reading that we were bottom of the league in draft picks with second contracts. Until this drafting gets better it will be a struggle. I know a big risk but an option on Darnold’s contract would look pretty good now.

A lot of KAM's moves seem very focused on the short term. Not all of them, but he seems driven by short term thinking and short term results.

Examples are his first draft where he traded way down to try to, as he put it, solve multiple roster challenges in one draft.

Another would be his draft last year where he traded basically all of the Vikings picks in this year's draft for two players (mostly Turner), neither of whom played much last year (McCarthy obviously because of injury, but Darnold was beating him out for the starting job prior to that injury).

Signing Darnold on a one year deal with no team option should he do well. They get the successful year out of him and that is all in a year where he might have been traded for at least one or more additional draft picks.

The defensive secondary at least is going to have to be completely rebuilt. KAM did little to nothing to mitigate that situation, and that will likely produce some more desperation this offseason at some point.

I get why people equate the Vikings regular season record with KAM's performance, but KAM seems to be benefiting from KOC's coaching a lot more than he is enabling those results, at least from where I sit. I am actually encouraged to see the Wilfs have not extended him yet.

[Alaskan]

It is the only reason I can think of for you to have a take that is so out there.

Or, more likely, he's just a troll...

VL you responded to my post while I was on your FOE list. And I am the troll? Give me a break buddy. It's pretty obvious to any anyone who can read and follow along that you don't like to have your thoughts challenged. And you definitely don't like to look at things from any perspective but your own. Now you are on my FOE list and I guarantee I will not read or respond to any of your long rants detailing your short sighted opinions and your inability to understand a point from another perspective.

[CharVike]

I haven’t read every post in this thread so if it has been hashed over before forgive me. I have mixed emotions on Kewsi mostly good but man these drafts haven’t been good, but they weren’t exactly great under speilman either. What has the organization done about the scouting department? I don’t know the process but I’m sure Kewsi has many people he relies on to get things right are any of them hold overs from the previous gm. I don’t have the data but I remember reading that we were bottom of the league in draft picks with second contracts. Until this drafting gets better it will be a struggle. I know a big risk but an option on Darnold’s contract would look pretty good now.

I do believe that most of these prove it contracts for vets are one year deals. Mayfield signed a one year 4 mill contract with the Bucs. We signed Davenport 1 year 13 mill. We signed another 1st round bust DL player this year for one year. So I won't fight KAM on that one. Everybody including him felt Sam was a bum. If they decide they need to keep him they can always tag or sign longer term which I don't see happening. Sam isn't the long term sustainable solution in their eyes. That's JJM. Sam had one of the best seasons we ever saw from a QB of ours and it went well beyond just the stats. He pulled games out ect... But he also proved he couldn't beat the Rams or Lions and that won't work. IMO if he faced the Eagles it would have been a beat down also. That team gets after the QB hard and Sam proved he can't handle that. What KAM can't be excused from is his pitiful draft record. You can never build a true contender drafting like he does. It will always be a one year fix to make the playoffs and get beat Year after year. That's why he needs to be fired once his contract is up.

[J. Kapp 11]

To be fair when considering those stats they drafted JJ who they never intened to start, Turner who was behind Van Ginkel, and Cine who was immediately injured. We'll never know if he was destine to be terrible or if he never fully recovered.

There is no sense making a bunch of moves for a 1st round backup. Turner might not start until year 4 unless Ginkel is dealt or told to be a backup at his cap number. Round 1 isn't a depth/development round. KAM has been living off Speilman's players. Which is fine but fill the holes with your players. That all starts with drafting and signing UDFA and he has failed.

I’m not here to defend KAM, but let’s be fair. Spielman’s players include Jefferson, Darrisaw, O’Neill, Bradbury, Harry and Bynum. That’s it. Every other starter was either drafted or acquired by KAM.

Look guys, he’s going to get extended. It’s not a matter of if, but when. We might as well get used to the idea. It’s long been a tradition in the NFL that you don’t make news leading up to the Super Bowl. Once it’s over, they’ll announce his signing.

[StumpHunter]

There is no sense making a bunch of moves for a 1st round backup. Turner might not start until year 4 unless Ginkel is dealt or told to be a backup at his cap number. Round 1 isn't a depth/development round. KAM has been living off Speilman's players. Which is fine but fill the holes with your players. That all starts with drafting and signing UDFA and he has failed.

I’m not here to defend KAM, but let’s be fair. Spielman’s players include Jefferson, Darrisaw, O’Neill, Bradbury, Harry and Bynum. That’s it. Every other starter was either drafted or acquired by KAM.

Look guys, he’s going to get extended. It’s not a matter of if, but when. We might as well get used to the idea. It’s long been a tradition in the NFL that you don’t make news leading up to the Super Bowl. Once it’s over, they’ll announce his signing.

Mettellus and Brandel are starters from the Spielman era too.

The returning starters in 2025 that Kwesi brought in:
Addison
Hock
Greenard
AVG
Phillips
Cashman

That means Spielman still has 6 starters he drafted on this team in 2025 compared to 6 starters that Kwesi brought in. 7 if depending on if you count Nailor or Oliver as a starter.

With the short lifespan of NFL players, that is not a good look for our current GM, that the core of this team 4 years later is still Spielman era picks.

That all changes if JJ McCarthy works out which is why I think Kwesi will do what it takes to make him work out. That means revamping the interior of the Oline, drafting a RB with one of our 1st 2 picks, and making life easy for a young QB to succeed.