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fiestavike wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:05 am
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:01 am

Well if we are now big players in the Williams deal, I would leave out Josh Jones and Ezra Cleveland. All depends on if we make a move there or not. However, we could take either of those guys and move them to guard. Other tackles that we could move would be:

Josh Jones
Ezra Cleveland
Robert Hunt
Lucas Niang
Prince Tego Wanagho
Ben Bartch
Shaadiq Charles

Still a ton of good CBs out that I would take:

Kristian Fulton
Jaylon Johnson
Trevon Diggs
Amik Robertson
Bryce Hall
Cameron Dantzler

A single guard has yet to go. I mentioned a few weeks ago we will have the pick of the litter in these rounds at guard. Some I'd like to target:

Lloyd Cushenberry
Jonah Jackson
John Simpson
Tyre Phillips
Damien Lewis
Shane Lemieux
Kevin Dotson
Hakeem Adeniji
Netane Muti
Cameron Clarke
Ben Bredeson
Logan Stenberg
John Runyan

Tons of talent at DT:

Ross Blacklock
James Lynch
Jordan Elliott
Raekwon Davis
Justin Madubuike
Neville Gallimore
Davon Hamilton
Khalil Davis

Some at DE:
Yetur Gross-Matos
AJ Epenesa
Marlon Davidson
Julian Okwara

Then you have your wild cards like Winfield Jr., Xavier McKinney. Plus a ton of mid-round WR talent. I'd be happy with just about anyone on this above list. I'm shocked how many options are out there. There were some mega reaches tonight. Terrell was a reach at 16, Arnette was a reach at 19, Love to GB I didnt understand given he struggled in the Mountain West, Jordan Brooks at 27 was a reach and Noah Igbinoghene was a reach at 30

As crazy as it sounds, if someone like Jaylon Johnson or Kristian Fulton was to fall, I'd pull the trigger on another CB.
There are 2 full more rounds of solid contributors in this draft. I think tomorrow will see the Vikings using some of their late picks to trade up and target particular players in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
Yeah the draft capital we have right now is insane. We can move all over the place the next two days and hardly effect our mid to later rounds. We could make an offer for the top pick tomorrow and still have plenty of capital.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:23 pm
halfgiz wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:12 pm

We basically lost 30 points on that trade,not good value.we should have been on the plus.
Given what was available and what went, what did we really lose? Wilson if anyone? We gained a 4th and 5th, I'd still make that trade any day
49ers is picking 31st
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S197 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:04 am I’d pull the trigger on Johnson/Fulton too. Tough to ignore that value. Hopefully we don’t see a run on interior line.
I dont think we will. I dont think that will start until end of round 2 to round 3
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halfgiz wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:10 am
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:23 pm

Given what was available and what went, what did we really lose? Wilson if anyone? We gained a 4th and 5th, I'd still make that trade any day
49ers is picking 31st
ok? lol
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I also wouldnt rule out Jake Fromm or Jalen Hurts. We have met with both of them a few times.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:05 am
S197 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:38 pm Zimmer said they were trying to trade up for Jefferson :shock:

Gladney worries me so much. He’s undersized, character concerns, knee problems. His metrics are even bad, look at this 3 cone:

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jeff-gladney
He was also 1st team big 12, led the conference in pass breakups, played on a torn meniscus and ran at the combine with one, plays way bigger than his size, tougher than nails, etc.

There are positives and negatives no matter who you look at. Guys knocked Mattison last year because he was "slow". In turn, it meant nothing.

As for Jefferson, doesnt surprise me we tried to move up. Jefferson going early heated up the last two days and WRs started going fairly quick. Again, Jefferson was #16 on Jeremiahs overall draft board and would've been a guaranteed went to someone like Oakland if those big 3 werent in this draft. Those guys were so highly touted that it caused someone as good as Jefferson to fall.
When you put your mock out I was happy to see Jefferson. He’s an excellent route runner that produced against top talent.

Gladney does look like he has good instincts and is battle tested. I’m still wary he’s going to struggle at the next level but I hope he works out.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 am I also wouldnt rule out Jake Fromm or Jalen Hurts. We have met with both of them a few times.
I like Hurts potential in this offense.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 am I also wouldnt rule out Jake Fromm or Jalen Hurts. We have met with both of them a few times.
Did we? If Vikings get Hurts, I will feel better after Vikings did not get Lamb :thumbsup:
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Hey, I've been out of the loop and couldn't watch the draft since I'm working. So do you guys think we Skilled the first round. I liked the JJ pick!
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RandyMoss84 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:20 am
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 am I also wouldnt rule out Jake Fromm or Jalen Hurts. We have met with both of them a few times.
Did we? If Vikings get Hurts, I will feel better after Vikings did not get Lamb :thumbsup:
Yeah we met with both. At the combine and virtually
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S197 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:04 am I’d pull the trigger on Johnson/Fulton too. Tough to ignore that value. Hopefully we don’t see a run on interior line.
I hope Vikings do not draft Fulton, he tampered with his drug test and has character concerns
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:32 am
RandyMoss84 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:20 am

Did we? If Vikings get Hurts, I will feel better after Vikings did not get Lamb :thumbsup:
Yeah we met with both. At the combine and virtually
Sweet! You know I am a Sooners fan so getting Jalen would be sweet! I have not been impressed with Fromm but if Jalen is gone, I will be okay with Fromm, he can not be any worse than awful Mannion
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RandyMoss84 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:33 am
S197 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:04 am I’d pull the trigger on Johnson/Fulton too. Tough to ignore that value. Hopefully we don’t see a run on interior line.
I hope Vikings do not draft Fulton, he tampered with his drug test and has character concerns
Maybe that is why he wasn't drafted today. One thing I am virtually certain of is we can get a great safety tomorrow even if we stand pat. Teams don't value safeties nearly as much as other positions. Not one safety was drafted in the first. I think there are 5 excellent safeties on the board. McKinney, Winfield, Delpit, Chinn and Duggar. Of course I would like Winfield best, but I'm happy with any of those and right now I think assuming we will get Williams and Harris will be gone, that Safety is the position we most need
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:05 am
S197 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:38 pm Zimmer said they were trying to trade up for Jefferson :shock:

Gladney worries me so much. He’s undersized, character concerns, knee problems. His metrics are even bad, look at this 3 cone:

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jeff-gladney
He was also 1st team big 12, led the conference in pass breakups, played on a torn meniscus and ran at the combine with one, plays way bigger than his size, tougher than nails, etc.

There are positives and negatives no matter who you look at. Guys knocked Mattison last year because he was "slow". In turn, it meant nothing.

As for Jefferson, doesnt surprise me we tried to move up. Jefferson going early heated up the last two days and WRs started going fairly quick. Again, Jefferson was #16 on Jeremiahs overall draft board and would've been a guaranteed went to someone like Oakland if those big 3 werent in this draft. Those guys were so highly touted that it caused someone as good as Jefferson to fall.
We are going to have to give him the slot and move Thielen outside. I think he's a solid pick, but could be a product of Burrows and the system. We shall see. I'm sticking with my guns that Mims will be a better pro. Jefferson however is going to be a solid fantasy pick as we only have him and Thielen. He will get every chance to succeed.
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RandyMoss84 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:39 am
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:32 am

Yeah we met with both. At the combine and virtually
Sweet! You know I am a Sooners fan so getting Jalen would be sweet! I have not been impressed with Fromm but if Jalen is gone, I will be okay with Fromm, he can not be any worse than awful Mannion
Vikings might actually draft a QB since we have so many picks this year.
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