Diggs Traded

[RandyMoss84]

I am surprised that we are still talking about Diggs since he is not on the team anymore, this thread should be locked, that is just my opinion

[StumpHunter]

Just stop.

People writing things that you disagree with doesn't make them a troll.

When someone claims that others players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is. There have been plenty of members that gave disagreed with my takes in the past and I don’t say they are all trolling or trying to start a fire. Not even close with many. But claims like the one above regarding the other players and the ponder/cousins thing sure seems like it.

There absolutely is validity in saying it was because of Cousins. WR don't ask for a trade if they are happy with their QB, and they for sure don't ask for a trade 2 hours after that QB gets an extension if they are happy with their QB. It might not be the only reason, or even the main reason, but it is a completely valid comment and he didn't deserve to be called a troll for it.

Any time anyone says anything bad about Zimmer, Spielman or Cousins it seems like you take it personal.

[VikingsVictorious]

Look at the bolded above. Only a TRUE Anti-Cousins believer could come up with your conclusion. You have earned your spot in the Anti-Cousins Hall of Fame.

I still don't see Diggs saying anything about Cousins ability on the field. Ponder was a smart and likeable guy too. I'm sure players missed playing and learning from him too.

Are you Stump with another user name? For some reason your reply cut off mine. Which quoted Diggs as saying I’m definitely going to miss playing with and learning from him. If he thought that Cousins was lacking ability he wouldn't say the bolded above. Diggs had by far his 2 best seasons with Cousins passing him the ball. Diggs numbers are going to take a big hit in Buffalo. He is going to rue the day that he whined his way off the team. As PHP said your argument holds no water at all.

[VikingsVictorious]

Just stop.

People writing things that you disagree with doesn't make them a troll.

When someone claims that others players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is. There have been plenty of members that gave disagreed with my takes in the past and I don’t say they are all trolling or trying to start a fire. Not even close with many. But claims like the one above regarding the other players and the ponder/cousins thing sure seems like it.

Stump you know I have you on ignore and I'm only seeing your comment because PHP replied to you. It is absolutely trolling when every thread no matter who it's about is turned into an anti-Cousins thread by you within five pages or less. You acknowledge the truth of that and stop doing it I will be interested in engaging you again. If I see the same thing from 808Viking I will have to ignore him as well. A person who can read Diggs comments and still come to the conclusion that he left because he didn't want to play with Cousins who was the catalyst for Diggs two best seasons is ridiculous.

[fiestavike]

When someone claims that others players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is. There have been plenty of members that gave disagreed with my takes in the past and I don’t say they are all trolling or trying to start a fire. Not even close with many. But claims like the one above regarding the other players and the ponder/cousins thing sure seems like it.

Stump you know I have you on ignore and I'm only seeing your comment because PHP replied to you. It is absolutely trolling when every thread no matter who it's about is turned into an anti-Cousins thread by you within five pages or less. You acknowledge the truth of that and stop doing it I will be interested in engaging you again. If I see the same thing from 808Viking I will have to ignore him as well. A person who can read Diggs comments and still come to the conclusion that he left because he didn't want to play with Cousins who was the catalyst for Diggs two best seasons is ridiculous.

It is not a ridiculous thing for someone to conclude, even if someone else disagrees. Its also been part of the discussion and speculation around the Diggs trade from the very beginning, and there are reasons for that which are likewise not ridiculous.

Ultimately we don't know, but there is some evidence to suggest whatever anyone wants to believe on this one.

[VikingsVictorious]

Stump you know I have you on ignore and I'm only seeing your comment because PHP replied to you. It is absolutely trolling when every thread no matter who it's about is turned into an anti-Cousins thread by you within five pages or less. You acknowledge the truth of that and stop doing it I will be interested in engaging you again. If I see the same thing from 808Viking I will have to ignore him as well. A person who can read Diggs comments and still come to the conclusion that he left because he didn't want to play with Cousins who was the catalyst for Diggs two best seasons is ridiculous.

It is not a ridiculous thing for someone to conclude, even if someone else disagrees. Its also been part of the discussion and speculation around the Diggs trade from the very beginning, and there are reasons for that which are likewise not ridiculous.

Ultimately we don't know, but there is some evidence to suggest whatever anyone wants to believe on this one.

We 100% disagree. It is ridiculous to take the evidence at hand and conclude Diggs was pushed over the edge by Cousins getting extended. He said he loves Cousins as a person and as a player. It takes an incredible imagination to twist that into can't stand him and wants out because of him.

[Pondering Her Percy]

When someone claims that others players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is. There have been plenty of members that gave disagreed with my takes in the past and I don’t say they are all trolling or trying to start a fire. Not even close with many. But claims like the one above regarding the other players and the ponder/cousins thing sure seems like it.

There absolutely is validity in saying it was because of Cousins. WR don't ask for a trade if they are happy with their QB, and they for sure don't ask for a trade 2 hours after that QB gets an extension if they are happy with their QB. It might not be the only reason, or even the main reason, but it is a completely valid comment and he didn't deserve to be called a troll for it.

Any time anyone says anything bad about Zimmer, Spielman or Cousins it seems like you take it personal.

Hang on, hang on. I said:

When someone claims that other players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is.

Look what I put in bold. I said other players.

I said that because 808 claimed the following:

Vikings are not going to the SB with Cousins at QB. Diggs knows this. I'm guessing so does everyone else that had a choice to stay but jumped ship.

He is claiming that other free agents that had a chance to stay, left because Cousins cant win a SB. So I will ask you again Stump since you completely overlooked and misread my post, is there any validity or backing to that comment?? Or is that simply trying to start a fire? How is anyone going to claim "yeah Trae Waynes and Mac Alexander left because they knew Cousins couldnt win a SB so they chose to sign with......the Cincinnati Bengals (aka the worst team in the entire NFL)". Or Sendejo signing with the Browns. Or Weatherly signing with Carolina. Or Kearse signing with Detroit. Teams that are definitely behind the Vikings from a contention standpoint. Some very far behind. Where is the validity in that? Where are the facts and proof? Bottom line is, it doesnt even make sense. But you tried to make me look like the bad guy by saying he's just trolling by saying that? Okay well then I guess I'll be the bad guy. That comment had trolling written all over it.

[Pondering Her Percy]

When someone claims that others players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is. There have been plenty of members that gave disagreed with my takes in the past and I don’t say they are all trolling or trying to start a fire. Not even close with many. But claims like the one above regarding the other players and the ponder/cousins thing sure seems like it.

Stump you know I have you on ignore and I'm only seeing your comment because PHP replied to you. It is absolutely trolling when every thread no matter who it's about is turned into an anti-Cousins thread by you within five pages or less. You acknowledge the truth of that and stop doing it I will be interested in engaging you again. If I see the same thing from 808Viking I will have to ignore him as well. A person who can read Diggs comments and still come to the conclusion that he left because he didn't want to play with Cousins who was the catalyst for Diggs two best seasons is ridiculous.

Exactly and that wasnt even the comment I was focusing on. It was the fact that 808 claimed free agents that we let walk this year chose to walk because Cousins couldnt win a SB. Couldnt be further from the truth. I honestly might start a thread thats titled "Eric Sugarman" and just see how fast it turns into something to do with Cousins and how he sucks. Accoding to Vegas odds, the over/under is by page 4.5

[Pondering Her Percy]

Stump you know I have you on ignore and I'm only seeing your comment because PHP replied to you. It is absolutely trolling when every thread no matter who it's about is turned into an anti-Cousins thread by you within five pages or less. You acknowledge the truth of that and stop doing it I will be interested in engaging you again. If I see the same thing from 808Viking I will have to ignore him as well. A person who can read Diggs comments and still come to the conclusion that he left because he didn't want to play with Cousins who was the catalyst for Diggs two best seasons is ridiculous.

It is not a ridiculous thing for someone to conclude, even if someone else disagrees. Its also been part of the discussion and speculation around the Diggs trade from the very beginning, and there are reasons for that which are likewise not ridiculous.

Ultimately we don't know, but there is some evidence to suggest whatever anyone wants to believe on this one.

There is literally zero evidence to back that other free agents left because Cousins couldnt win a SB. Literally none. And let's be honest, if that's what those players cared about was a Super Bowl, do you really think they'd choose to sign with teams like the Bengals, Lions, Panthers and Browns.....no. So dont bother saying there is evidence to suggest whatever they want to believe. There is absolutely zero evidence. Not even the slightest bit of speculation from a robot on Twitter.

[Pondering Her Percy]

It is not a ridiculous thing for someone to conclude, even if someone else disagrees. Its also been part of the discussion and speculation around the Diggs trade from the very beginning, and there are reasons for that which are likewise not ridiculous.

Ultimately we don't know, but there is some evidence to suggest whatever anyone wants to believe on this one.

We 100% disagree. It is ridiculous to take the evidence at hand and conclude Diggs was pushed over the edge by Cousins getting extended. He said he loves Cousins as a person and as a player. It takes an incredible imagination to twist that into can't stand him and wants out because of him.

The imaginations of fans that hate Kirk Cousins can reach unbelievable lengths, you'd be surprised.

[StumpHunter]

There absolutely is validity in saying it was because of Cousins. WR don't ask for a trade if they are happy with their QB, and they for sure don't ask for a trade 2 hours after that QB gets an extension if they are happy with their QB. It might not be the only reason, or even the main reason, but it is a completely valid comment and he didn't deserve to be called a troll for it.

Any time anyone says anything bad about Zimmer, Spielman or Cousins it seems like you take it personal.

Hang on, hang on. I said:

When someone claims that other players left because of cousins? Are you going to tell me there is any sort of validity or backing behind that? Is that even a fair assessment to make? Especially given where these players actually went. Then mentioning ponder in the same regard as cousins. If that’s not trying to start a fire, then I don’t know what is.

Look what I put in bold. I said other players.

I said that because 808 claimed the following:

Vikings are not going to the SB with Cousins at QB. Diggs knows this. I'm guessing so does everyone else that had a choice to stay but jumped ship.

He is claiming that other free agents that had a chance to stay, left because Cousins cant win a SB. So I will ask you again Stump since you completely overlooked and misread my post, is there any validity or backing to that comment?? Or is that simply trying to start a fire? How is anyone going to claim "yeah Trae Waynes and Mac Alexander left because they knew Cousins couldnt win a SB so they chose to sign with......the Cincinnati Bengals (aka the worst team in the entire NFL)". Or Sendejo signing with the Browns. Or Weatherly signing with Carolina. Or Kearse signing with Detroit. Teams that are definitely behind the Vikings from a contention standpoint. Some very far behind. Where is the validity in that? Where are the facts and proof? Bottom line is, it doesnt even make sense. But you tried to make me look like the bad guy by saying he's just trolling by saying that? Okay well then I guess I'll be the bad guy. That comment had trolling written all over it.

The post was fine. You could have ignored it, argued the points made or call the person a troll. For whatever reason, you took what he wrote personal and decided on the worst of the three.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Hang on, hang on. I said:



Look what I put in bold. I said other players.

I said that because 808 claimed the following:



He is claiming that other free agents that had a chance to stay, left because Cousins cant win a SB. So I will ask you again Stump since you completely overlooked and misread my post, is there any validity or backing to that comment?? Or is that simply trying to start a fire? How is anyone going to claim "yeah Trae Waynes and Mac Alexander left because they knew Cousins couldnt win a SB so they chose to sign with......the Cincinnati Bengals (aka the worst team in the entire NFL)". Or Sendejo signing with the Browns. Or Weatherly signing with Carolina. Or Kearse signing with Detroit. Teams that are definitely behind the Vikings from a contention standpoint. Some very far behind. Where is the validity in that? Where are the facts and proof? Bottom line is, it doesnt even make sense. But you tried to make me look like the bad guy by saying he's just trolling by saying that? Okay well then I guess I'll be the bad guy. That comment had trolling written all over it.

The post was fine. You could have ignored it, argued the points made or call the person a troll. For whatever reason, you took what he wrote personal and decided on the worst of the three.

You could ignore a post regarding someone talking up cousins, but do you ever? I did argue the points made. And then followed it up by saying he’s trying to start a fire by saying that. I didn’t take anything personal. But I think there has been enough back and forth on here that posting stuff like that is doing nothing but asking for backlash and stirring the pot again. Especially when you have zero sources to back it up. That’s like me saying, “Waynes and Alexander left because they don’t think Mike zimmer can win a SB” and then provide nothing to back it up. Why post that when you can’t back it up? To stir the pot? Idk why else he would say it other than if he had a source, which he doesn’t. Like that’s my point....discuss. Don’t come up with ridiculous points just to get people going.

[StumpHunter]

The post was fine. You could have ignored it, argued the points made or call the person a troll. For whatever reason, you took what he wrote personal and decided on the worst of the three.

You could ignore a post regarding someone talking up cousins, but do you ever? I did argue the points made. And then followed it up by saying he’s trying to start a fire by saying that. I didn’t take anything personal. But I think there has been enough back and forth on here that posting stuff like that is doing nothing but asking for backlash and stirring the pot again. Especially when you have zero sources to back it up. That’s like me saying, “Waynes and Alexander left because they don’t think Mike zimmer can win a SB” and then provide nothing to back it up. Why post that when you can’t back it up? To stir the pot? Idk why else he would say it other than if he had a source, which he doesn’t.

You could write that about Zimmer and i wouldn't call you a troll. You can say Cousins gives us the best chance at winning the SB and I wouldn't call you a troll. I would point to statistics that say the exact opposite, but I wouldn't go after you as a poster. You know, because those are the rules of the board.

[fiestavike]

It is not a ridiculous thing for someone to conclude, even if someone else disagrees. Its also been part of the discussion and speculation around the Diggs trade from the very beginning, and there are reasons for that which are likewise not ridiculous.

Ultimately we don't know, but there is some evidence to suggest whatever anyone wants to believe on this one.

There is literally zero evidence to back that other free agents left because Cousins couldnt win a SB. Literally none. And let's be honest, if that's what those players cared about was a Super Bowl, do you really think they'd choose to sign with teams like the Bengals, Lions, Panthers and Browns.....no. So dont bother saying there is evidence to suggest whatever they want to believe. There is absolutely zero evidence. Not even the slightest bit of speculation from a robot on Twitter.

nevermind.

[Pondering Her Percy]

You could ignore a post regarding someone talking up cousins, but do you ever? I did argue the points made. And then followed it up by saying he’s trying to start a fire by saying that. I didn’t take anything personal. But I think there has been enough back and forth on here that posting stuff like that is doing nothing but asking for backlash and stirring the pot again. Especially when you have zero sources to back it up. That’s like me saying, “Waynes and Alexander left because they don’t think Mike zimmer can win a SB” and then provide nothing to back it up. Why post that when you can’t back it up? To stir the pot? Idk why else he would say it other than if he had a source, which he doesn’t.

You could write that about Zimmer and i wouldn't call you a troll. You can say Cousins gives us the best chance at winning the SB and I wouldn't call you a troll. I would point to statistics that say the exact opposite, but I wouldn't go after you as a poster. You know, because those are the rules of the board.

^That couldnt be more false so dont even get me started. If you have anything else, take it to a PM. This thread has been cluttered up enough at this point.