Uh oh... Norv's in TRO-OO-UBLE....dead_poet wrote:
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Uh oh... Norv's in TRO-OO-UBLE....dead_poet wrote:
I certainly hope so but I doubt it.Mothman wrote: Uh oh... Norv's in TRO-OO-UBLE....
I guess because Zimmer and Turner are at the top of the food chain. As I said, Bridgewater deserves blame but Zimmer and Turner called the play. They have to take some of the heat, if not the majority of it.Mothman wrote: They are but why is this a limitation that should prevent them from calling a play in that situation? He's a second year pro QB! I've seen college QBs handle the same situation just fine. It's not that complicated.
@Andrew_Krammer Zimmer: "In retrospect, we could've probably made a different call or kicked the field goal" on final play ending in strip-sack #Vikings
I hear you. I think there's plenty of heat to go around on that play.losperros wrote: I guess because Zimmer and Turner are at the top of the food chain. As I said, Bridgewater deserves blame but Zimmer and Turner called the play. They have to take some of the heat, if not the majority of it.
Actually, it's beginning to sound as if Turner called the play by himself, given what Zimmer just said about not liking the play-call.
Well maybe this will cause some eyes to open. I still get mad when Patterson ismt on thd field. Maybe Zimmer will have a chat with Norv.losperros wrote: I certainly hope so but I doubt it.
The play ultimately failed, but that is not on Norv Turner, who designed a clever play call, nor on Teddy Bridgewater, who had less than three seconds to pass. If you need to point fingers, you can blame Matt Kalil, but rather than pointing fingers, credit should be given to the Cardinals’ defense and particularly to Dwight Freeney, the future hall of famer whose beautiful speed rush to spin move stopped the play in under three seconds and won the game.
I know Moth will agree with me on this one since he first brought it up. I'd like to see Patterson as the lone WR on some of the 2TE sets. Seems like he could add an interesting option to the sets, making them even more versatile.PurpleMustReign wrote:Well maybe this will cause some eyes to open. I still get mad when Patterson ismt on thd field. Maybe Zimmer will have a chat with Norv.
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Agree 1000%.J. Kapp 11 wrote: The final play never should have occurred. It had little chance of doing anything positive. KICK THE FIELD GOAL ON THIRD DOWN, and we're not having this conversation right now.
It's a good analysis (and man, did Matt Kalil get embarrassed) but I still disagree strongly with the idea of even running a play. I also contend it's more than just about the field-goal probabilities. You have to factor in the probability of whether you can even get a kick away.dead_poet wrote:Norv Turner’s Vikings-Cardinals Game-Ending Play Call
http://nflbreakdowns.com/norv-turner-vi ... play-call/
For me it wasn't the play that was called, but that a play was called at all.dead_poet wrote:Norv Turner’s Vikings-Cardinals Game-Ending Play Call
http://nflbreakdowns.com/norv-turner-vi ... play-call/
Based on that NFL Breakdowns analysis, he couldn't have done a worse job than the receivers on the left side of the Vikings' formation on that last play. They acted like it was the 4th quarter of a preseason game. Extremely poor break off the line, and with nobody pressing them, it was inexcusable.losperros wrote: I know Moth will agree with me on this one since he first brought it up. I'd like to see Patterson as the lone WR on some of the 2TE sets. Seems like he could add an interesting option to the sets, making them even more versatile.