VikingLord wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:34 pm
makila wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:57 pm
I really like Flores. A point a lot of the podcasts brought up however was how Tua appeared to be completely stunted under him. I don't know if it's fair, I haven't went back and looked/listened. I guess Fitzpatrick was pretty uncomplementary about him. I need to go back and figure out what they were talking about.
If you do get more info on this subject please update this thread because I'm really curious. Flores seems like a really good coach to me. I was hopeful the Vikings defense could get to mid-table statistically this year, but Flores has them playing better than that, especially as of late. Very impressive job and I think it takes a true leader of men to get that kind of turnaround and performance out of a group of mostly young players.
It's crazy to think that if the Vikings were to make the playoffs the side of the ball that would give them the best chance to advance is the defensive side... When this season started that never crossed my mind as possible, and yet here we are. Flores has everything to do with that IMHO.
Found what they were referencing. This was on TNF broadcast. Take it for what it is. I am not knowledgeable on Fitzpatrick regarding his personality, and any potential desire for a headline. I don't recall him really taking shots at people during his career. Like I said, kinda ignorant on the subject of Fitzpatrick the person.
https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/mi ... tagovailoa
While discussing the regression of New England Patriots quarterback Mac Jones, and whether the Patriots' benched 2021 first-round pick has been “broken,” he compared Jones’ situation to that of Tagovailoa.
“Tua Tagovailoa, who I was with, Brian Flores — same New England way — he was broken (from) Brian Flores the way he treated him, the way that he coached him,” Fitzpatrick said. “And what happens? Mike McDaniel comes in. He restores his confidence. He gets it back, and now he’s an MVP candidate.”
Now this I question a little bit more, as I do think Mike Lombardi will say things for a headline.
https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2022/11/29 ... phins-fans
“I don’t think [Brian] Flores was shy about telling [Tagovailoa], ‘Hey, I should have picked Mac Jones.’ I don’t think he was shy about telling him that. In fact, I know that he wasn’t,” Michael Lombardi said on The GM Shuffle podcast (h/t Zack Cox of NESN).
Lombardi—a former NFL executive with several teams, including the New England Patriots—said Flores directly criticized Tagovailoa in a conversation during the regular season.
“If I’d have knew you were going to be this bad, I would have picked Mac Jones,” Flores told the quarterback, according to Lombardi.
I would say, that in today's NFL, the HC has to be QB....friendly. If they aren't, they need to get out of the way and let the OC handle it. The game is 100% geared towards passing, offense, qbs, etc. The point of whether it should be or not is a different talking point. The Zimmer approach isn't how the NFL is today.
Really like Flores as a defensive coach. I think he has shown in multiple places he can identify talent to fit what he wants to do, and/or adjust to the players he has. This is something that drives me crazy when coaches don't coach to their players. Or force players into a scheme that clearly doesn't work for them. I think he's innovative, and just a good coach on that side of the ball. He's also young that, as long as he isn't too stubborn, he can adjust what he does. I think
(maybe hope) that Miami taught him some lessons as well. I think Tomlin is an interesting comp/parallel that we are familiar with as Vikings fans. Last year or two of Ben, and post-Ben have been a little bit a challenge for them. Tomlin has shown willingness to adjust (at least make offensive coaching staff changes). However their QB swings in last 2-3 years don't appear good.