Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:46 pm
StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:30 am
Facts on logic mean nothing compared to some internet blogs that say he is overrated.
I mean I say agree to disagree, I’m done with the conversation, moving on and then you have to post that? But yeah, all I’m looking at is blogs.....keep telling yourself that
I don't think this is really a subjective debate, is it?
The claim is that Russell Wilson is not a top-tier QB. Is that supported by facts, or just a matter of opinion?
One factual way to assess QBs is by QB rating among active NFL QBs:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... active.htm
If you look at that, Russell Wilson is 2nd on that list at 100.3, just behind Aaron Rodgers at 103.1 and ahead of notable veterans like Drew Brees (97.7), Tom Brady (97.6), and Phillip Rivers (95.6)
And just for reference, Kirk Cousins comes in next at 95.0, so by this measure, he's a top 10 NFL QB among active players.
This link on the same site gives a lot more detail about Wilson compared to peers in a ton of different categories as well:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... lsRu00.htm
Scroll towards the bottom of that page and you'll see them, including awards, number of pro bowl nominations, etc, and his relative rank in the particular category against both active QBs and all time.
Wilson isn't tops in every category, of course, and depending on the particular category or categories you want to look at, an argument can probably be made that he is not elite or even top 10 in that particular measure. For example, his passing yards/game average among active QBs puts him at #19. He has a few other categories where he ranks near the middle of his peers as well.
But he has more categories where he is top 10 or even top 5 among active players. For example, passing TDs, he ranks 10th and has 5 seasons in the top 10. In terms of passes intercepted, he's had the fewest among active players (he's ranked 63rd out of 63, with a lower ranking being a positive in the way that category is considered). In the pick six category, he's had 3 (as compared to Cousins 10). His yards per pass attempt puts him at 5th among active QBs.
My point is, the argument that Wilson is just average (if that is the argument being made. If not, I apologize if I'm misunderstanding it) just isn't supported by the stats. He's a very good QB, and, in some measures, even a great one. He's good enough that the team that drafted him made him the highest paid player in NFL history in order to keep him. I can't remember the last time the Vikings had someone at QB that I would have felt justified a move like that.
Further, his teams in Seattle have enjoyed success, including a Superbowl victory with him at the helm. Once again, this is something I'd love to see happen with any QB at the helm in Minnesota, much less one drafted and developed by the Vikings.