No, that is your opinion. Cousins taking the most time to throw in the NFL in week 2 is a fact.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:56 pmI don’t agree with it either. I think it’s a bogus stat that you’re just trying to ride in order to help your “cousins does everything wrong” argument. There were times Rodgers sat back there 6-7 seconds. Not once did cousins have that time and you know that even though you won’t ever admit it. Sorry but I don’t buy it either. The interior OL got beat up badly. That is a factStumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:09 pm
Rodgers took less time to throw. That is a fact and I am sorry you can't come to terms with it.
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Our OL pass blocking was pathetic regardless of what some think. The bottom line Cousins was having a hard time also. But we did get back in the game when every piece broke. Top to bottom. Plus we got the home cooking from the refs. Our passing game was busted including PI against our guys and the idiot OC goes back to it. That's the biggest problem.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:56 pmI don’t agree with it either. I think it’s a bogus stat that you’re just trying to ride in order to help your “cousins does everything wrong” argument. There were times Rodgers sat back there 6-7 seconds. Not once did cousins have that time and you know that even though you won’t ever admit it. Sorry but I don’t buy it either. The interior OL got beat up badly. That is a factStumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:09 pm
Rodgers took less time to throw. That is a fact and I am sorry you can't come to terms with it.
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Like I said, bogus stat. So many things that need to be taken into consideration other than them just hitting start on a stop watch when he snaps the ball. But keep riding out that bogus stat of yours. You and every other fan witnessed with your own eyes that Rodgers had all day to throw. Especially early on. Cousins on the other hand, did not. 60% of drop backs he was getting pressured. That is an absurd amount. Nobody on this board complained about Cousins holding the ball to long at any point in that game other than the completion he made to Beebe. So you yourself didn’t even see what this stat is saying. And what’s funny is that I don’t think you even believe your own stat. Nobody believes it. But if it dogs cousins, you find a way to believe it.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:06 pmNo, that is your opinion. Cousins taking the most time to throw in the NFL in week 2 is a fact.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:56 pm
I don’t agree with it either. I think it’s a bogus stat that you’re just trying to ride in order to help your “cousins does everything wrong” argument. There were times Rodgers sat back there 6-7 seconds. Not once did cousins have that time and you know that even though you won’t ever admit it. Sorry but I don’t buy it either. The interior OL got beat up badly. That is a fact
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Rodgers took less time to throw than Cousins. There is no denying that fact, but here you are, claiming your feels are more accurate than a stopwatch.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:48 amLike I said, bogus stat. So many things that need to be taken into consideration other than them just hitting start on a stop watch when he snaps the ball. But keep riding out that bogus stat of yours. You and every other fan witnessed with your own eyes that Rodgers had all day to throw. Especially early on. Cousins on the other hand, did not. 60% of drop backs he was getting pressured. That is an absurd amount. Nobody on this board complained about Cousins holding the ball to long at any point in that game other than the completion he made to Beebe. So you yourself didn’t even see what this stat is saying. And what’s funny is that I don’t think you even believe your own stat. Nobody believes it. But if it dogs cousins, you find a way to believe it.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:06 pm
No, that is your opinion. Cousins taking the most time to throw in the NFL in week 2 is a fact.
I am going to make a prediction that this Sunday Cousins will get rid of the ball in under 3 seconds on average and the percentage of pressures will drop dramatically. I will also predict the Cousins apologist crowd will say the line played better, when in reality they were just asked to do less.
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Sounds like you’re making a prediction to cover your as# lol. You’ve done this plenty of times before on here as well. You predict the good so if it happens, nobody can come at you saying, “see Kirk looked good and doesn’t hold the ball long”. But if the bad happens, you’ll also sit there and say “see I told you so he sucks”. It’s a win-win for you. You’re literally covering your as#. I don’t think you believe one bit of it but you do it so you’re covered to make it sound like you know what you’re talking about. If you think the guy sucks, then you think the guy sucks. But you’ve dug your hole with cousins. We all know how you feel. And nobody is going to give you a free pass when cousins proves you wrong and plays well after you “call it”. Good try but I’ve seen it before from you.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:22 pmRodgers took less time to throw than Cousins. There is no denying that fact, but here you are, claiming your feels are more accurate than a stopwatch.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:48 am
Like I said, bogus stat. So many things that need to be taken into consideration other than them just hitting start on a stop watch when he snaps the ball. But keep riding out that bogus stat of yours. You and every other fan witnessed with your own eyes that Rodgers had all day to throw. Especially early on. Cousins on the other hand, did not. 60% of drop backs he was getting pressured. That is an absurd amount. Nobody on this board complained about Cousins holding the ball to long at any point in that game other than the completion he made to Beebe. So you yourself didn’t even see what this stat is saying. And what’s funny is that I don’t think you even believe your own stat. Nobody believes it. But if it dogs cousins, you find a way to believe it.
I am going to make a prediction that this Sunday Cousins will get rid of the ball in under 3 seconds on average and the percentage of pressures will drop dramatically. I will also predict the Cousins apologist crowd will say the line played better, when in reality they were just asked to do less.
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LOL, okay?Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:23 pmSounds like you’re making a prediction to cover your as# lol. You’ve done this plenty of times before on here as well. You predict the good so if it happens, nobody can come at you saying, “see Kirk looked good and doesn’t hold the ball long”. But if the bad happens, you’ll also sit there and say “see I told you so he sucks”. It’s a win-win for you. You’re literally covering your as#. I don’t think you believe one bit of it but you do it so you’re covered to make it sound like you know what you’re talking about. If you think the guy sucks, then you think the guy sucks. But you’ve dug your hole with cousins. We all know how you feel. And nobody is going to give you a free pass when cousins proves you wrong and plays well after you “call it”. Good try but I’ve seen it before from you.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:22 pm
Rodgers took less time to throw than Cousins. There is no denying that fact, but here you are, claiming your feels are more accurate than a stopwatch.
I am going to make a prediction that this Sunday Cousins will get rid of the ball in under 3 seconds on average and the percentage of pressures will drop dramatically. I will also predict the Cousins apologist crowd will say the line played better, when in reality they were just asked to do less.
This isn't even a prediction that Cousins will play better. It is about the offensive line...
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The online was atrocious on Sunday. So was Kirk. Him taking more time to throw could come from many factors:
1. Larger amount of play action passes than the average QB.
2. Longer routes due to being down a great deal and playaction
3. Him holding the ball longer due to panicking or having to dodge defenders
4. WRs not being open and having to work their way open.
To assume it's only 3, is shortsighted. Many organic factors affect time to throw.
1. Larger amount of play action passes than the average QB.
2. Longer routes due to being down a great deal and playaction
3. Him holding the ball longer due to panicking or having to dodge defenders
4. WRs not being open and having to work their way open.
To assume it's only 3, is shortsighted. Many organic factors affect time to throw.
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But, but, but, but.....Cousins sucks. And he makes 84 M. Nevermind that receivers are making that much now.YikesVikes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 am The online was atrocious on Sunday. So was Kirk. Him taking more time to throw could come from many factors:
1. Larger amount of play action passes than the average QB.
2. Longer routes due to being down a great deal and playaction
3. Him holding the ball longer due to panicking or having to dodge defenders
4. WRs not being open and having to work their way open.
To assume it's only 3, is shortsighted. Many organic factors affect time to throw.
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If you have followed the Vikings, you know this is the best offensive line performance they have had in nearly a decade...and its not even close.YikesVikes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 am The online was atrocious on Sunday. So was Kirk. Him taking more time to throw could come from many factors:
1. Larger amount of play action passes than the average QB.
2. Longer routes due to being down a great deal and playaction
3. Him holding the ball longer due to panicking or having to dodge defenders
4. WRs not being open and having to work their way open.
To assume it's only 3, is shortsighted. Many organic factors affect time to throw.
That's not going to fly as an excuse to Cousins poor play.
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Atrocious line play doesn't typically result in a hundred yard rusher and the QB being able to take the longest time to throw in the NFL and only getting hit 6 times with one sack.YikesVikes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 am The online was atrocious on Sunday. So was Kirk. Him taking more time to throw could come from many factors:
1. Larger amount of play action passes than the average QB.
2. Longer routes due to being down a great deal and playaction
3. Him holding the ball longer due to panicking or having to dodge defenders
4. WRs not being open and having to work their way open.
To assume it's only 3, is shortsighted. Many organic factors affect time to throw.
Diggs was open a ton and Cousins didn't see him, so 4 is out the window. 1 is certainly possible, but there are a lot of teams that run a lot of play action, and only Cousins took a ton of time to throw. 2 is baloney, and again, lots of QBs were down multiple scores last Sunday, only Cousins took forever to throw.
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Exactly. This is why I said it’s not just a time on a stopwatch. So many factors play into that number that Stump is honing I’m on. It’s not like cousins is sitting back there for hours taking sacks and struggling to read a defense. Like I said before, the only pass attempt I could recall of him “holding the ball too long” was his pass to Beebe. Nobody was saying “get rid of the ball!!” all game. Or if at all. He’s only taking 1 sack each game. But the pressure is still there. Clearly it was given the OL gave up pressure 60% of pass attempts. I thought cousins has drastically improved his awareness, movement and getting rid of the ball this year. Way, way better than last year. He doesn’t seem to panic nearly as much when pressure is in his face. His sack vs GB was simply unavoidable and pressure came from every directionYikesVikes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 am The online was atrocious on Sunday. So was Kirk. Him taking more time to throw could come from many factors:
1. Larger amount of play action passes than the average QB.
2. Longer routes due to being down a great deal and playaction
3. Him holding the ball longer due to panicking or having to dodge defenders
4. WRs not being open and having to work their way open.
To assume it's only 3, is shortsighted. Many organic factors affect time to throw.
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Please remember the golden rule: "Disagree and respond to the post, do not attack the poster."Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:23 pmSounds like you’re making a prediction to cover your as# lol. You’ve done this plenty of times before on here as well. You predict the good so if it happens, nobody can come at you saying, “see Kirk looked good and doesn’t hold the ball long”. But if the bad happens, you’ll also sit there and say “see I told you so he sucks”. It’s a win-win for you. You’re literally covering your as#. I don’t think you believe one bit of it but you do it so you’re covered to make it sound like you know what you’re talking about. If you think the guy sucks, then you think the guy sucks. But you’ve dug your hole with cousins. We all know how you feel. And nobody is going to give you a free pass when cousins proves you wrong and plays well after you “call it”. Good try but I’ve seen it before from you.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:22 pm
Rodgers took less time to throw than Cousins. There is no denying that fact, but here you are, claiming your feels are more accurate than a stopwatch.
I am going to make a prediction that this Sunday Cousins will get rid of the ball in under 3 seconds on average and the percentage of pressures will drop dramatically. I will also predict the Cousins apologist crowd will say the line played better, when in reality they were just asked to do less.
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Not “attacking” anyone. Simply saying it how it is. Because I’m not gonna sit here and watch him say “I told ya so” after Sunday. Oakland’s pass rush is terrible. So chances are, the pressures will be low regardless. I think it was last year before the jets game I believe (??) where he made a similar prediction because he knew he was playing a weaker team and would probably do well. The post above is the same thing. He doesn’t like cousins, he doesn’t think he’s good, he thinks he cracks under pressure, he thinks anything and everything negative you could about a player with cousins. So for him to make a prediction that he’s going to get rid of the ball quicker and the OL (simply because he knows Oakland’s pass rush is weak as well as their secondary) is simply just him covering his rear. Kind of funny if you ask meMothman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:45 pmPlease remember the golden rule: "Disagree and respond to the post, do not attack the poster."Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:23 pm
Sounds like you’re making a prediction to cover your as# lol. You’ve done this plenty of times before on here as well. You predict the good so if it happens, nobody can come at you saying, “see Kirk looked good and doesn’t hold the ball long”. But if the bad happens, you’ll also sit there and say “see I told you so he sucks”. It’s a win-win for you. You’re literally covering your as#. I don’t think you believe one bit of it but you do it so you’re covered to make it sound like you know what you’re talking about. If you think the guy sucks, then you think the guy sucks. But you’ve dug your hole with cousins. We all know how you feel. And nobody is going to give you a free pass when cousins proves you wrong and plays well after you “call it”. Good try but I’ve seen it before from you.
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In all likelihood, you are going to sit there and watch him say whatever it is he is going to say. What do you get out of 'setting him straight'? We are entitled to our opinions about Cousins, good, bad, or in between.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:40 pmNot “attacking” anyone. Simply saying it how it is. Because I’m not gonna sit here and watch him say “I told ya so” after Sunday. Oakland’s pass rush is terrible. So chances are, the pressures will be low regardless. I think it was last year before the jets game I believe (??) where he made a similar prediction because he knew he was playing a weaker team and would probably do well. The post above is the same thing. He doesn’t like cousins, he doesn’t think he’s good, he thinks he cracks under pressure, he thinks anything and everything negative you could about a player with cousins. So for him to make a prediction that he’s going to get rid of the ball quicker and the OL (simply because he knows Oakland’s pass rush is weak as well as their secondary) is simply just him covering his rear. Kind of funny if you ask me
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Somehow, I knew you'd say that.
It's not up for debate. You were getting personal. Don't get personal. Keep it about football. Make your points about football.