Raptorman wrote:This does not really surprise me. Why? Because last year the Vikings scored an average of 24.4 ppg. Tied at 14 with the Colts. You have to remember, the reason the Vikings only won 5 games last year PROBABLY had more to do with the defense than the offense. The Offense scored points, they gave some up as well, but they did score enough for the team to win. It's the mistakes on offense that screwed them.
Oh, I'm not surprised the Vikes were ranked #11. I'm just surprised the Bears weren't ranked higher.
The much-maligned Bill Musgrave actually fielded a very productive offense last year, despite the almost universally agreed-upon problems at QB.
Cliff wrote:
Ah, it just happened to work out to be 11 for the Vikings and 13 for Chicago when I did the math. I wonder what else they're doing to come to those rankings.
Cliff - you are an administrator now?!
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@GoesslingESPN: Lots of excitement about DT Shamar Stephen recently at #Vikings camp. Zimmer, Edwards and D-line coach Andre Patterson all high on him.
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Funkytown wrote:Exactly. From worst to first, baby!
Hey, Tice practically pulled that off with the running game from 2001 (ranked 25th) to 2002 (ranked first) so maybe Zimmer can do it with the entire defense.
5 interceptions in practice is beyond pathetic. if he doesn't improve somewhat over last week after this weekend's game throw up some red flags. nobody throws 5 freaking interceptions in 2 practices (and they said it should have been 6). if you guys think that is improvement great for you. in what job or career would those numbers be considered positive?
mosscarter wrote:5 interceptions in practice is beyond pathetic. if he doesn't improve somewhat over last week after this weekend's game throw up some red flags. nobody throws 5 freaking interceptions in 2 practices (and they said it should have been 6). if you guys think that is improvement great for you. in what job or career would those numbers be considered positive?
Since I have not seen any video of the 5 interceptions I cannot comment on them. I will say however to expect zero mistakes is not realistic. And I would rather him throw 5 in practice and learn from them then 5 in game.
But that's just me.
Vikings fan since Nov. 6, 1966. Annoying Packer fans since Nov. 7, 1966
mosscarter wrote:5 interceptions in practice is beyond pathetic. if he doesn't improve somewhat over last week after this weekend's game throw up some red flags. nobody throws 5 freaking interceptions in 2 practices (and they said it should have been 6). if you guys think that is improvement great for you. in what job or career would those numbers be considered positive?
More interceptions as a positive? Well, a DB, of course. Next question.
mosscarter wrote:5 interceptions in practice is beyond pathetic. if he doesn't improve somewhat over last week after this weekend's game throw up some red flags. nobody throws 5 freaking interceptions in 2 practices (and they said it should have been 6). if you guys think that is improvement great for you. in what job or career would those numbers be considered positive?
Bro, relax. It is not like he has thrown five interceptions in a game, where they really matter.
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Funkytown wrote:
More interceptions as a positive? Well, a DB, of course. Next question.
For real though, let's try not to crush Teddy with our expectations. He might not be ready yet, but that's fine. I want to see how he learns. Remember how good players like Vince Young and Mark Sanchez supposedly were after their first years in the league? It's all about continued improvement.
Mothman wrote:
Hey, Tice practically pulled that off with the running game from 2001 (ranked 25th) to 2002 (ranked first) so maybe Zimmer can do it with the entire defense.
And Tice did it with a RB by committee year. Of course, Tice also had a QB that rushed for over 600 yards and scored 10 rushing TDs.
