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Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:12 am
by fiestavike
Vikings09 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:13 am I think with our 22 pick we should draft LB Murray and that would improve our D Bigtime...he has a nose for the ball and can rush the qb
I haven't looked at early LBs very much in this draft. Is this a guy who would fit well as an ILB in a 3-4?

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:38 am
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:12 am
Vikings09 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:13 am I think with our 22 pick we should draft LB Murray and that would improve our D Bigtime...he has a nose for the ball and can rush the qb
I haven't looked at early LBs very much in this draft. Is this a guy who would fit well as an ILB in a 3-4?
Whether he does or doesn’t, we aren’t switching to a 3-4. To spend a first on a LB would make no sense

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:11 am
by fiestavike
It would be interesting to consider how the Vikings might approach this draft if they make a switch to a 3-4, or even plan to include it as a significant wrinkle. What do you guys think?

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:56 am
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:11 am It would be interesting to consider how the Vikings might approach this draft if they make a switch to a 3-4, or even plan to include it as a significant wrinkle. What do you guys think?
Mike zimmer has ran this same defense for the last 20 years. Does anyone really believe we’ll switch to a 3-4 now just because Dom Capers is there? I’d bet my life they don’t. Some wrinkles? Sure. But a switch? Not a chance. Either way I don’t think it will have much effect on the draft

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:31 am
by VikingPaul73
there is an article at the Daily Norseman, discussing a slight shift in the style of 4-3, that I found interesting (see link below). I agree with PHP I just can't see Zim doing something as dramatic as switching to a 3-4, but something like this, to better utilize players like Barr and Hunter, seems plausible

thoughts?

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/9/ ... on-defense

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:36 am
by fiestavike
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:31 am there is an article at the Daily Norseman, discussing a slight shift in the style of 4-3, that I found interesting (see link below). I agree with PHP I just can't see Zim doing something as dramatic as switching to a 3-4, but something like this, to better utilize players like Barr and Hunter, seems plausible

thoughts?

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/9/ ... on-defense
Thanks for sharing! Its a lot more fun to discuss this kind of thing rather than just trying to slam one another and look for ways to shut the conversation down...Its not like we have anything better to do on the sports horizon than talk about this kind of stuff anyway.

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:27 pm
by VikingPaul73
Agreed :beerock: :beerock:

I think the writer could be onto something, especially the way the 49ers ran the ball down the Vikings throat. Would be interesting to see how they’d do against the run with a little more beef on the strong side.

My question though is what about teams like saints who are always in 3WR sets? They would need 2 pass rushing threats at DE against teams like that

Maybe they could run their old style against teams like the saints and use Ife who might struggle against the run , and use Watts/Stephen against teams like the 49ers??

Versatility is the key I suppose

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:29 pm
by fiestavike
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:27 pm Agreed :beerock: :beerock:

I think the writer could be onto something, especially the way the 49ers ran the ball down the Vikings throat. Would be interesting to see how they’d do against the run with a little more beef on the strong side.

My question though is what about teams like saints who are always in 3WR sets? They would need 2 pass rushing threats at DE against teams like that

Maybe they could run their old style against teams like the saints and use Ife who might struggle against the run , and use Watts/Stephen against teams like the 49ers??

Versatility is the key I suppose
Love the versatility idea. It might be tough to get outside the base scheme this year given they may not have ANY preseason! Otherwise, having the personnel to switch it up depending on matchups, or even snap by snap could be a real advantage.

Re: Linebackers in draft

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:44 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:36 am
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:31 am there is an article at the Daily Norseman, discussing a slight shift in the style of 4-3, that I found interesting (see link below). I agree with PHP I just can't see Zim doing something as dramatic as switching to a 3-4, but something like this, to better utilize players like Barr and Hunter, seems plausible

thoughts?

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/9/ ... on-defense
Thanks for sharing! Its a lot more fun to discuss this kind of thing rather than just trying to slam one another and look for ways to shut the conversation down...Its not like we have anything better to do on the sports horizon than talk about this kind of stuff anyway.
Who was slammed? I’m all for discussing wrinkles in the defense but to continue to repeat a possible switch to a 3-4, am I not allowed to say it’s not going to happen? Of course capers is going to add in some things but if we’re switching to a 3-4, we might as well have hired capers as our DC, not 2 guys that have also coached in this same defense for how many years.