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Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:39 pm
by DanAS
dead_poet wrote:Richie Incognito - G - Dolphins

One NFL personnel man told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that Richie Incognito's career is likely over.

Incognito bullied Dolphins OT Jonathan Martin to the point that he essentially had a mental meltdown and left the team. "Lol," the personnel man replied when asked by Pelissero whether Incognito will be claimed off waivers. "I think he can file his retirement papers." Incognito graded out as a top-13 guard in Pro Football Focus' ratings, so his loss is a concern on the field.
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

The author of this article speaks for me. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99268 ... to-control

We do this situation -- and our society -- a disservice by focusing on Richie Incognito. The problem is the culture that allows a Richie Incognito to be a leader in an adult work environment.

I just listened to interviews of other Dolphins, including our own Bryant McKinnie. I feel sorry for any legitimately intelligent and sensitive soul who has to hang out with these morons, most of whom probably don't even have a clue why some of us find the whole idea of hazing to be disgusting.

As long as hazing is tolerated, there will be Incognitos, for it is pretty hard to draw the line between what is "acceptable" hazing and what is immoral hazing. Frankly, I don't have much of an appreciation for any kind of hazing. What is the upside? Do people consider that to be funny? As a guy who is brought up on Jewish humor, mostly we laugh at ourselves. We don't humiliate others. Sure, I've laughed with Don Rickles, but I cannot imagine that that guy would abuse the same person over and over again. And if he did, he wouldn't be funny -- he'd just be a horse's as s.

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:03 pm
by Turtle Burger
dead_poet wrote:Richie Incognito - G - Dolphins

One NFL personnel man told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that Richie Incognito's career is likely over.

Incognito bullied Dolphins OT Jonathan Martin to the point that he essentially had a mental meltdown and left the team. "Lol," the personnel man replied when asked by Pelissero whether Incognito will be claimed off waivers. "I think he can file his retirement papers." Incognito graded out as a top-13 guard in Pro Football Focus' ratings, so his loss is a concern on the field.
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
I think this is the first time I ever saw the word "Lol" in a news release.

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:12 pm
by HornedMessiah
http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/ ... -78065907/
Miami Dolphins coaches asked player Richie Incognito, who was the offensive line's undisputed leader, to toughen up teammate Jonathan Martin after he missed a voluntary workout last spring, at least two sources told the Sun Sentinel....

...Sources say that communication took place when Martin skipped two days of the team's OTA program, and Incognito was encouraged by his coaches to make a call that would "get him into the fold," one source said.

Even though OTA workouts are voluntary, the NFL culture forces coaches to strong arm the team's leaders to make sure everyone attends. Sources say Incognito was doing his job, but they admit he crossed the line.
Things could get ugly down in Miami. This won't be going away any time soon

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:33 pm
by jackal
I can't believe the players are sticking with the offender ...

Miami has set themselves up for a huge lawsuit and are making it worse ..

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:37 pm
by Funkytown
ESPN NFL MIA - Dolphins, assistant offensive line coach Chris Mosley agree to part ways - team official

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:38 am
by jackal
It will be a whole lot more than a assistant O line coach before this over

I could see Philbin getting fired over this if he does not start winning more

Miami spent big in the off season

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:11 pm
by Funkytown
jackal wrote:It will be a whole lot more than a assistant O line coach before this over

I could see Philbin getting fired over this if he does not start winning more

Miami spent big in the off season
A story on NFL.com says Philbin and Ireland are not expected to survive all of this.

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:58 am
by Funkytown
ESPN NFL - Jonathan Martin meeting in NY with NFL investigator looking into bullying scandal with Dolphins

Re: Dolphins lineman Jonathan Martin reportedly goes AWOL

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:09 am
by dead_poet
Worthy read on bullying by Matthew Berry: http://espn.go.com/fantasy/football/sto ... l-rankings