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				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:25 pm
				by Reignman
				Haha that's funny, I came here today just to post that stat, but it's 31-9 in the fourth not 41-9. Still pathetic and the reason we're 1-3 and not 3-1.
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Vikings    31 41 34  9 - 115
Opponents  31 40 21 31 - 123
 
			
					
				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:33 pm
				by TheFoxInDetox
				I don't like the conservative style of "don't lose" 4th quarter play that teams exhibit but it is hardly unique to the Vikings. I saw several good teams do the same thing just yesterday. I guess the idea is to keep the clock ticking and make sure you don't throw the game away with a pick 6. make the other team beat you. 
it must work more often than not or coaches like Bellichek, Kubiak and Reid wouldn't employ it so often. Like I said, I can't stand it but there must be a statistician somewhere who says that it is the smart play. 

 
			
					
				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:34 pm
				by TheFoxInDetox
				TheFoxInDetox wrote:I don't like the conservative style of "don't lose" 4th quarter play that teams exhibit when they take a lead late into the 4th quarter but it is hardly unique to the Vikings. I saw several good teams do the same thing just yesterday. I guess the idea is to keep the clock ticking and make sure you don't throw the game away with a pick 6. make the other team beat you. 
it must work more often than not or coaches like Bellichek, Kubiak and Reid wouldn't employ it so often. Like I said, I can't stand it but there must be a statistician somewhere who says that it is the smart play. 

 
 
			
					
				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:15 pm
				by Reignman
				You're right about that, keep the ball in front, don't give up the big play, and keep the clock ticking, but I think the original idea behind "prevent" defense was to play it in the final 2 minutes with a 2 score lead. Now teams are playing it with a 3 point lead, and for the entire 4th quarter. All teams do it, but the Vikings have turned it into a specialty.
			 
			
					
				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:43 pm
				by Reignman
				Jeffbleedspurple wrote:Why would anyone in their right mind would want to so drastically change something that worked fine in the 1st 3 quarters of a game to what the Vikings do in the 4th? I mean really?  

 
Ha, I ask myself that every time I watch any close football game.
 
			
					
				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:50 pm
				by mondry
				Reignman wrote:You're right about that, keep the ball in front, don't give up the big play, and keep the clock ticking, but I think the original idea behind "prevent" defense was to play it in the final 2 minutes with a 2 score lead. Now teams are playing it with a 3 point lead, and for the entire 4th quarter. All teams do it, but the Vikings have turned it into a specialty.
yeah ROFL, so true!  We start running the clock out in the 3rd quarter!  
As for Belichik they never take the foot off the gas, and that's the difference.  If they're up by 14 why not be up by 21?  That's the way to win, I mean doesn't that make sense?  If a small lead is a good, a big lead is better.  If you scored 34 points (like we did) you can probably score 7 more points going for it.
 
			
					
				Re: Stupid stat
				Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:32 pm
				by Reignman
				mondry wrote:
yeah ROFL, so true!  We start running the clock out in the 3rd quarter!  
As for Belichik they never take the foot off the gas, and that's the difference.  If they're up by 14 why not be up by 21?  That's the way to win, I mean doesn't that make sense?  If a small lead is a good, a big lead is better.  If you scored 34 points (like we did) you can probably score 7 more points going for it.
Especially considering we scored point #34 with 5:00 to go in the 3rd quarter. We played it safe, went the final 20 minutes without scoring, and our 17 point lead disappeared in a hurry. I'll guarantee every Viking fan in the country predicted a run on 3rd n 5, a punt, and a game tying TD. I nearly punched Frazier through my TV.