Week 7 Vs. Eagles

[CharVike]

It is time for Flores to be gone, the defense was embarrassing losing to a mediocre offense, Flores is not good as you think it is and Wentz needs to be gone, he is a back up for a reason and Hockenson needs to be gone, he is a terrible tight end

Teams just can not win games with only one touchdown

Wentz made many mistakes but Jetts and Hock both dropped TDs. Brandels penalty cost a TD and the snap over the head. The entire team was bad. There's nothing out there to replace Wentz with. This went way beyond one player. Our D did play great early after the 1st drive but KOCs offense couldn't score again. Hate to post it but based on KAM's draft history I don't get a great feeling for JJM.

[VikingsFan12345]

It is time for Flores to be gone, the defense was embarrassing losing to a mediocre offense, Flores is not good as you think it is and Wentz needs to be gone, he is a back up for a reason and Hockenson needs to be gone, he is a terrible tight end

Teams just can not win games with only one touchdown

Wentz made many mistakes but Jetts and Hock both dropped TDs. Brandels penalty cost a TD and the snap over the head. The entire team was bad. There's nothing out there to replace Wentz with. This went way beyond one player. Our D did play great early after the 1st drive but KOCs offense couldn't score again. Hate to post it but based on KAM's draft history I don't get a great feeling for JJM.

Vikings have Bromser, Bromser can not do any worse than Wentz

[CharVike]

Wentz made many mistakes but Jetts and Hock both dropped TDs. Brandels penalty cost a TD and the snap over the head. The entire team was bad. There's nothing out there to replace Wentz with. This went way beyond one player. Our D did play great early after the 1st drive but KOCs offense couldn't score again. Hate to post it but based on KAM's draft history I don't get a great feeling for JJM.

Vikings have Bromser, Bromser can not do any worse than Wentz

True. But the drops and penalties Brosmer won't fix that. Brandels penalty for holding the guy was on the ground already. He was out of the play. We lost a TD. Jets had the TD drop and Hock. That's giving the game away. The Eagles tried to give it to us. Even Jets told the reporter when asked about the guy sticking his arm in Jets said that needs to be caught. It had nothing to do with the DB. That's playing poorly and I think it goes beyond one player.

[Cliff]

A couple of players made some mistakes. Some drops, a few penalties. The defense had it's fair share of problems but played well enough for a mildly better offense to win.

One player failed harder than the rest and it wasn't close. Wentz overthrew, he underthrew, blatant intentional grounding, bad timing on short routes, terrible interceptions, backwards passes, missed wide open guys some of whom were the first read. In the red zone he played like someone paid him to lose. The only time the Vikings scored in the red zone was when the ball was snapped to someone other than Wentz.

He did some good things. Had those nice runs. Did make some decent throws. But not remotely enough to justify the bad.

Maybe JJM will be a failure, but at least he has the potential to improve. Wentz is a finished product.

[Alaskan]

A couple of players made some mistakes. Some drops, a few penalties. The defense had it's fair share of problems but played well enough for a mildly better offense to win.

One player failed harder than the rest and it wasn't close. Wentz overthrew, he underthrew, blatant intentional grounding, bad timing on short routes, terrible interceptions, backwards passes, missed wide open guys some of whom were the first read. In the red zone he played like someone paid him to lose. The only time the Vikings scored in the red zone was when the ball was snapped to someone other than Wentz.

He did some good things. Had those nice runs. Did make some decent throws. But not remotely enough to justify the bad.

Maybe JJM will be a failure, but at least he has the potential to improve. Wentz is a finished product.

Well said Cliff. Wentz isn’t the present or the future. That’s not even in question.

They had Darnold and Jones on the roster last season and decided on McCarthy. KAM didn’t make that decision on his own. KOC gets the credit he needs to get the criticism as well. I personally put more of this on him than I do KAM.

Honestly, I blame the coaching staff for most of the issues with this team. They have done almost nothing to develop a formidable running game. Or even the threat of a formidable running game. So little creativity. The play action game that is such a big part of what they do feeds off of it. And vice versa. Not at all impressed with what KOC has done with the running game since he has been the Head coach. It needs to improve significantly if this team is ever to truly compete with elite teams. The running game is your QB’s best friend, especially a young guy like McCarthy.

And the defense hasn’t been able to slow down any running game. And today, they just kinda got handled. This is a .500 team at best. Honestly they are lucky to be .500 right now. Injuries have hurt them, no question, but With the talent on this roster it’s time to put this back on the coaching staff. They have had a heavy hand in putting this roster together. They need to get their act together!!

[VikingsFan12345]

I will never understand why people here say Flores is a good defensive coordinator and should be the Vikings head coach, Flores' defense sucked today especially the secondary

[40for60]

Everyone is to blame for this one. My main issue with KOC is thinking the QB, no matter who it is, are all able to be at a functional level. Normally a decent QB would have multiple TDs with those play calls. But apparently you can’t expect Wentz to make plays in the red zone, so just pound the ball on 2nd and one, no matter what.

I also think Flores has run his course. We can’t run a trick defense forever and expect a championship defense. We need the players. He’s done a lot for a few years with the players he’s been given, but good teams and QBs have figured his scheme out, at least with the players he has. I think it’s telling he hasn’t signed an extension.

Then there is Kwesi. I kind of give him a pass for his first draft as he was using Spielman‘s scouts and staff, and didn’t have a lot of time before the draft. But he got too cute. Wouldn’t Hamilton be nice to have on this team? And spending the capital to get Turner … he’s ok but not a game changer at this point. He’s still young, but I still think he should be able to be a game changer, and I don’t see it yet. Wouldn’t it be nice to have Jarod Verse on this team without having to give up that extra draft capital? Anyway, he hit on free agents with Greenard, AVG, and Cashman, but this year’s free agent s have mostly been busts, with the possible exceptions of Rodgers and Fries. And while the UFDAs have been good, you can’t rely solely on them. This team needs a major infusion of talented young talent.

End of rant. This was a very frustrating game that was winnable

[40for60]

Oh and their pursuit of a backup QB was a joke this year. They are paying for it now.