Mannion is back baby

[J. Kapp 11]

This I can't speak to as I don't know Cousins or anything about his ego or feeling about competition. I have never heard anything about him not wanting competition but I suppose it could be true.

In my experience NFL athletes, and most athletes for that matter, are HIGHLY competitive. And especially the ones that have reached the peak of their craft. But anything is possible I suppose.

I can't find a quote at the moment, but I remember hearing reports that one of the reasons they have never brought in any real competition for Cousins was that he had a problem with it. It could just be conjecture, and it could just be my bad memory.

I want to ask you a serious question.

Why would you WANT competition?

Kirk Cousins is the sixth-highest paid quarterback in the league. All his money is guaranteed, and he has a no-trade clause. Are you honestly going to tell me that you’d want someone to actually have a chance of beating him out, leaving us with a $31 million backup?

Look, extending Cousins wouldn’t have been my choice. But he’s been extended, and there’s nothing we can do about it. He is the Vikings’ QB for at least the next two seasons. So the thing for the Vikings to do now is make him the best quarterback he can be. Zimmer never cared about that. At the very least, I’m glad O’Connell does.

[halfgiz]

I wouldn’t think that a little competition would hurt anything. Maybe even sharpen the QB’s skills a little more.

[J. Kapp 11]

I wouldn’t think that a little competition would hurt anything. Maybe even sharpen the QB’s skills a little more.

If the only point is to sharpen the starting quarterback's skills, then it isn't really competition.

[Maelstrom88]

Bill Walsh was always looking to upgrade on Montana. He wanted Dan Marino and traded for Steve Young. There wasn't a cap then either.

[Maelstrom88]

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(Photo by Scott Taetsch/Getty Images) Kirk Cousins and Sean Mannion
(Photo by Scott Taetsch/Getty Images) Kirk Cousins and Sean Mannion
How Sean Mannion is more impressive than Kirk Cousins

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Despite only throwing one touchdown in his NFL career, Sean Mannion has landed another contract with the Minnesota Vikings to backup Kirk Cousins.

For the past three seasons, Sean Mannion has been the No. 2 quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings behind Kirk Cousins. Well, it sounds like this could end up remaining the case for the 2022 campaign despite the recent change in leadership for the Vikings.

On Tuesday, Minnesota announced that they had agreed to a new contract with Mannion, who was a free agent this year. His new deal with the Vikings only lasts for one season according to multiple reports.

We should possibly hold off judgment on figuring out what re-signing Mannion might mean about how Minnesota’s new regime feels about Kellen Mond. There’s still plenty of time this offseason for the young quarterback to prove to the Vikings that he deserves to be Cousins’ backup for the 2022 campaign.

Sean Mannion defies logic again as he remains the backup for Minnesota Vikings QB Kirk Cousins
With Minnesota’s hirings of head coach Kevin O’Connell and general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah earlier this year, some felt it meant that the Vikings were going to move on from a bunch of longtime contributors.



Mannion has been with the franchise for the last few seasons, so he was certainly a candidate for Minnesota to part ways with this year. However, the veteran quarterback has managed to even convince the Vikings’ new leadership that he has value for the team in 2022.

People have praised Cousins through the years for managing to make a boatload of cash in his NFL career despite his performance never really translating to overall team success. While that might be impressive to some, it’s starting to get to the point where Mannion deserves similar praise, if not more.


The Minnesota quarterback entered the NFL in 2015 when he was drafted in the third round by the Los Angeles Rams back when they were located in St. Louis. Despite a career record of 0-3 as a starter, a career passer rating of 66.2, and the fact that he’s thrown just one touchdown during his entire time in the NFL, Mannion has managed to remain in the league ever since he was drafted.

He’s clearly figured out a way to keep a job in the NFL despite being an abominable quarterback whenever he’s been asked to play. And that’s why his tenure in the league at least deserves some consideration to be more impressive than Cousins’ time in the NFL.


At least Cousins has been able to put up above-average numbers at a consistent rate, so people can have an actual argument that he’s worth close to what he gets paid every year. But Mannion has easily been one of the worst quarterbacks to ever throw a football in a Vikings uniform, yet he keeps getting re-signed.

At this point, all anyone can really do is be impressed that he’s been able to last as long in the NFL as he has.

[Thaumaturgist]

I can't find a quote at the moment, but I remember hearing reports that one of the reasons they have never brought in any real competition for Cousins was that he had a problem with it. It could just be conjecture, and it could just be my bad memory.

I want to ask you a serious question.

Why would you WANT competition?

Kirk Cousins is the sixth-highest paid quarterback in the league. All his money is guaranteed, and he has a no-trade clause. Are you honestly going to tell me that you’d want someone to actually have a chance of beating him out, leaving us with a $31 million backup?

Look, extending Cousins wouldn’t have been my choice. But he’s been extended, and there’s nothing we can do about it. He is the Vikings’ QB for at least the next two seasons. So the thing for the Vikings to do now is make him the best quarterback he can be. Zimmer never cared about that. At the very least, I’m glad O’Connell does.

Would it be painful as a team and for fans to know that we were wasting 35 million dollars on a QB that wasn't our starter? Sure... But if it meant we had the best person for the job, I'm all for it. Competition should never be a bad thing. Should our second stringers give us the best chance to win if they go in? I say yes... Always try to improve every position.

[VikingsVictorious]

I want to ask you a serious question.

Why would you WANT competition?

Kirk Cousins is the sixth-highest paid quarterback in the league. All his money is guaranteed, and he has a no-trade clause. Are you honestly going to tell me that you’d want someone to actually have a chance of beating him out, leaving us with a $31 million backup?

Look, extending Cousins wouldn’t have been my choice. But he’s been extended, and there’s nothing we can do about it. He is the Vikings’ QB for at least the next two seasons. So the thing for the Vikings to do now is make him the best quarterback he can be. Zimmer never cared about that. At the very least, I’m glad O’Connell does.

Would it be painful as a team and for fans to know that we were wasting 35 million dollars on a QB that wasn't our starter? Sure... But if it meant we had the best person for the job, I'm all for it. Competition should never be a bad thing. Should our second stringers give us the best chance to win if they go in? I say yes... Always try to improve every position.

Competition is great, but in Cousins case it makes much more sense to invest our best assets elsewhere.

[CharVike]

Is that why we let Mac Jones go bye bye and then picked another guy later on. We let the star go and picked the bum. That make sense. If Cousins or any other player couldn't compete they never would have made it to the top of the sport. Very few who play this game make it to the NFL. How did Cousins beat out RG III if he laid down and just collected a paycheck. Or was it RG that didn't like competition? To say any athlete that makes it this far won't compete is wrong.

Mac Jones according to many was a bum. Many liked Mond more. If we had picked him he probably wouldn't have seen the light of day.

Many guys get rated as a bum. Marino went from potential top pick and then tumbled to Shula. Rodgers went through the same thing. Many felt he was a bum. I seen many mocks were the pick was Jones for the 49ers and that was pick No 3. There is something strange going on with Mond not with us but before he even went to college. I have my thoughts but I don't know enough about this IMG Academy which he went to after attending Reagan high school in TX.

[Cliff]

If Kirk goes down you're not winning with any of the backups you can sign in FA right now. Might as well go with the budget friendly option that you know. Especially when cap space is tight.

Would a guy on a rookie deal not be a better budget friendly option? I think rookie contracts are as cheap as they come.

Depending on the round. His salary is about on par with a 4th rounder. He also gives them the flexibility to do both. They've got backup QB covered but if the right player is there at QB they can also take them without spending too much at the position.

[Maelstrom88]

Would a guy on a rookie deal not be a better budget friendly option? I think rookie contracts are as cheap as they come.

Depending on the round. His salary is about on par with a 4th rounder. He also gives them the flexibility to do both. They've got backup QB covered but if the right player is there at QB they can also take them without spending too much at the position.

I think this draft will be heavy on defense. Ideally they would draft another QB next year and have him learn on the bench for a year to prepare him to take over for Cousins. I haven't written Mond off either. I'm just tired of hearing Mannion's name

[J. Kapp 11]

Would it be painful as a team and for fans to know that we were wasting 35 million dollars on a QB that wasn't our starter? Sure... But if it meant we had the best person for the job, I'm all for it. Competition should never be a bad thing. Should our second stringers give us the best chance to win if they go in? I say yes... Always try to improve every position.

Competition is great, but in Cousins case it makes much more sense to invest our best assets elsewhere.

That's really the point.

This isn't high school, where everybody gets paid the same (nothing). The Vikings have limited resources (hard to imagine labeling $208 million as "limited resources). They have already put a significant portion of those limited resources toward Kirk Cousins as their quarterback. Therefore it makes zero sense to have a quarterback competition.

[JJBreaksRecords]

Competition is great, but in Cousins case it makes much more sense to invest our best assets elsewhere.

That's really the point.

This isn't high school, where everybody gets paid the same (nothing). The Vikings have limited resources (hard to imagine labeling $208 million as "limited resources). They have already put a significant portion of those limited resources toward Kirk Cousins as their quarterback. Therefore it makes zero sense to have a quarterback competition.

So you dont think there's ever a reason to change back up QBs? Maybe get a QB's place, like Cousins, should have yearly competition. Because it hasnt worked out for us Viking fans doing it the way we have been. Its like some fans are afraid of hurting Cousins pride. Most of us couldnt care less about that. We want someone new to be our QB, and one way to do that is to have a back up QB learning the ropes from the bench,.

[vikeinmontana]

That's really the point.

This isn't high school, where everybody gets paid the same (nothing). The Vikings have limited resources (hard to imagine labeling $208 million as "limited resources). They have already put a significant portion of those limited resources toward Kirk Cousins as their quarterback. Therefore it makes zero sense to have a quarterback competition.

So you dont think there's ever a reason to change back up QBs? Maybe get a QB's place, like Cousins, should have yearly competition. Because it hasnt worked out for us Viking fans doing it the way we have been. Its like some fans are afraid of hurting Cousins pride. Most of us couldnt care less about that. We want someone new to be our QB, and one way to do that is to have a back up QB learning the ropes from the bench,.

Trust me, if the VIKINGS wanted a new QB, we'd have a new QB. Fans opinions don't matter in the slightest.

It has nothing to do with the organization being afraid of competition. No team would ever run that way. It's not like there are marquee players available just dying to be our backup QB but the organization is refusing to bring them on board for fear of upsetting Cousins. I think some people are looking way to hard into this.

Cousins has shown to be a quality starter. Not all world like some suggest, and not some scrub like others suggest. He's under contract for a couple more years. If at any point his play is so terrible, they will see what options they have. As of right now, they feel he gives us the best chance to win. Maybe they are right, maybe wrong.

I'm still waiting to hear names of amazing QB's willing to come to Minnesota as a backup role for the money we are able to spend on that position?

[halfgiz]

So you dont think there's ever a reason to change back up QBs? Maybe get a QB's place, like Cousins, should have yearly competition. Because it hasnt worked out for us Viking fans doing it the way we have been. Its like some fans are afraid of hurting Cousins pride. Most of us couldnt care less about that. We want someone new to be our QB, and one way to do that is to have a back up QB learning the ropes from the bench,.

Cousins has shown to be a quality starter. Not all world like some suggest, and not some scrub like others suggest. He's under contract for a couple more years. If at any point his play is so terrible, they will see what options they have. As of right now, they feel he gives us the best chance to win. Maybe they are right, maybe wrong.

I'm still waiting to hear names of amazing QB's willing to come to Minnesota as a backup role for the money we are able to spend on that position?

You going to answer this...What has Cousins accomplished?

That’s just it, if Vikings want a better QB they will have to pay better money.
No amazing QB’s just better than Mannion. If something would happen to Cousins they would be scrambling for a better QB... guaranteed

[Maelstrom88]

Cousins has shown to be a quality starter. Not all world like some suggest, and not some scrub like others suggest. He's under contract for a couple more years. If at any point his play is so terrible, they will see what options they have. As of right now, they feel he gives us the best chance to win. Maybe they are right, maybe wrong.

I'm still waiting to hear names of amazing QB's willing to come to Minnesota as a backup role for the money we are able to spend on that position?

You going to answer this...What has Cousins accomplished?

That’s just it, if Vikings want a better QB they will have to pay better money.
No amazing QB’s just better than Mannion. If something would happen to Cousins they would be scrambling for a better QB... guaranteed

Like when they had Teddy go down and wasted a first round pick on Bradford instead of playing the back up they had (Shaun Hill, we have a bad history of carrying useless back ups named Sean). Which showed they had zero confidence in said backup to win games. Which makes you wonder why he was on the team in the first place. When Trent Green went down the Rams didn't panic trade for Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson... they believed in the guy they had currently.. an unknown.. and it worked out pretty well. As did Brady and Cassell for the Pats. Also unknowns instead of garbage vets who help holding the clipboard and massaging your starters ego.