J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:14 am
StumpHunter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:40 am
A few things. First, we didn't lose and based on your post you would think we did.
There was 37 seconds left and we were starting from the 19 going into the half. The vast majority of teams run it in that spot:
https://stathead.com/football/play_find ... rgin_max=8
The second half TD thing is the most damning. It means teams adjust to a limited offense and we do nothing to adjust to their adjustments. If it continues the HC and GM who decided it was a good idea to hire an OC based on who his Dad was should be fired for incompetence.
Detroit took away Adam and that is why we stunk in the red zone this game. He is the target of choice for Cousins in that spot, and without him we struggle in the red zone apparently.
Seriously man, your defense of this coaching staff is beyond comprehension.
I literally said the HC should be fired in the post you are responding too.
End of half … you are the ONLY person on the planet to defend that philosophy. At the end of the game, we had four fewer seconds, only one timeout, and started at the 18, yet we managed to score. I’m not interested in what most teams would do. I’m interested in what we should do.
I am not the ONLY person on the planet to defend that philosophy. If you clicked on that link you would see nearly every HC since 2010 does the exact same thing Zimmer does. It was a bad take on your part and I proved it with facts instead of emotional opinions.
Thielen … they take him away in the red zone, so it’s OK that we didn’t score all those times? He’s our only weapon?
It is not okay and I never claimed it was. Other players are running routes out there in the red zone, but without Thielen to bail him out Cousins is struggling to see them.
You think it’s good coaching to run the ball on 2nd and 10+? Four different times?
The Vikings threw or had a pass play drawn up 13 times on 2nd down and ran it 8. On 2nd and 10+ they passed 5 times and ran it 4 times. We average 5.6 YPA on 2nd and 10+ when passing in that spot. We average 2.5 YPA when running in that spot. 3 more yards per attempt on 2nd and 10+ is the reason we only scored 19 against one of the worst defenses in the NFL?
Do you think that the Vikings might be hesitating to pass in that spot because obvious passing downs are a struggle for the Oline?
There is no defense for the way this staff coached this game. Yes, they won … against a winless team with the lowest level of talent in the league and a number of players injured or slowed by injury. We were lifeless on offense and gave up a 10-point lead in 3 minutes. This was a game we deserved to lose, set up by the kind of play that will get us killed against even mediocre teams. If you’re OK with that, then more power to you.
Yeah, you are projecting here. I did not say I was okay with a lifeless offense or that we gave up a 10 point lead in 3 minutes after Zimmer coached Mattison to fumble the football to put the Lions in scoring position at the end of the game.
The coaching on offense does not appear to be good. The talent on offense appears to be average at best outside of the 3 stars in JJ, Cook and Theilen. The defense looks good, but it is filled with guys on 1 year deals who will be gone next season.
Time to blow the whole thing up, not just focus on a HC, because we want to believe this is just a coaching problem and not a problem with the team as a whole.