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Let me put it this way, do you really trust the Vikings to draft a kicker after how Blair Walsh and Daniel Carlson turned out for us? Or do you trust the Vikings to use *any* draft capital on a kicker? Remember Kaare Vedvik?
I watched Nwangu at Iowa State for 4 years. Kene is FAST, as in 4.3 fast. He doesn’t have loose hips, which means he doesn’t have the wiggle ability you’d like in a bell cow running back. But if he gets in the open field, he’s really hard to catch.VikingLord wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 12:59 pm Interesting Round 4 for the Vikings.
They start with a guy I honestly hadn't heard of in Kene Nwangwu. Not sure what attracted them to Kene, but it must have been something one of their scouts sold them on as I don't see anything special from the limited info out there. He seems like he has good speed and definitely has low mileage, but yeah, this pick seems like it could have been made in UDFA.
The Bynum pick makes sense if they're planning on turning him into a safety, which from everything I'm seeing is the plan. Bynum definitely has good instincts in pass protection and should have a chance to develop for a year without a lot of pressure on him. However, Bynum's production at the college level was pretty flat. I'm going to hope the reason for that was coaching and with the right coaching he'll develop into a more productive player as a pro.
Janarius Robinson is a good value pick where the Vikings took him. Physically, he's what you want in a DE, but his production has been all over the place. In some games he's looked great, while in others he's vanished. Not a good sign because it's tough to coach motivation into someone, but if the light turns on for him he can be very good. On a more general note I'm not sure I would have gone DE with this pick given the Jones pick in Round 3, but it appears the Vikings are ranking prospects on ceiling more than anything else, so Robinson makes sense based on that.
He definitely has the size but he sounds like about as much of a project as you can get. You think he's a practice squad guy?Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 2:03 pm Davidson is a great pick. Good depth piece and he has lots of potential.
Nah, definitely depth, because the Vikings only have three Tight Ends right now: Irv Smith Jr., Tyler Conklin, and Brandon Dillon.Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 2:09 pmHe definitely has the size but he sounds like about as much of a project as you can get. You think he's a practice squad guy?Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 2:03 pm Davidson is a great pick. Good depth piece and he has lots of potential.
Watching a guy that long gives you some insight. That type of speed is hard to find. Basically a game breaker as a KR is great for a 4th round pick. It's not like round 4 is full of starting off the bat players. Getting a guy that contributes day 1 is a great pick. I've seen many games won and lost from special teams play.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 2:05 pmI watched Nwangu at Iowa State for 4 years. Kene is FAST, as in 4.3 fast. He doesn’t have loose hips, which means he doesn’t have the wiggle ability you’d like in a bell cow running back. But if he gets in the open field, he’s really hard to catch.VikingLord wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 12:59 pm Interesting Round 4 for the Vikings.
They start with a guy I honestly hadn't heard of in Kene Nwangwu. Not sure what attracted them to Kene, but it must have been something one of their scouts sold them on as I don't see anything special from the limited info out there. He seems like he has good speed and definitely has low mileage, but yeah, this pick seems like it could have been made in UDFA.
The Bynum pick makes sense if they're planning on turning him into a safety, which from everything I'm seeing is the plan. Bynum definitely has good instincts in pass protection and should have a chance to develop for a year without a lot of pressure on him. However, Bynum's production at the college level was pretty flat. I'm going to hope the reason for that was coaching and with the right coaching he'll develop into a more productive player as a pro.
Janarius Robinson is a good value pick where the Vikings took him. Physically, he's what you want in a DE, but his production has been all over the place. In some games he's looked great, while in others he's vanished. Not a good sign because it's tough to coach motivation into someone, but if the light turns on for him he can be very good. On a more general note I'm not sure I would have gone DE with this pick given the Jones pick in Round 3, but it appears the Vikings are ranking prospects on ceiling more than anything else, so Robinson makes sense based on that.
The Vikings drafted him primarily for one reason ... to return kicks. He’s extremely dangerous, averaging about 29 yards. Analysts have compared him to Cordarelle Patterson. He’s not quite as big at 6-0, 210, but I’d say that’s accurate. Many here have said the 4th round is early for a KR, but Nwangu is not just any kick returner. Seriously. He’s an instant upgrade there and likely puts the Vikings in the top 5 in that category.
As a running back, he didn’t get a lot of chances. First he played behind David Montgomery, then Breece Hall, who was the Big 12 Freshman of the Year one season and the nation’s leading rusher the next. But Kene had some nice highlights when he got his carries, with several long TD runs. He’s also a reliable receiver out of the backfield. He’ll be at least as good as Mike Boone was, with the added ability to be a difference maker in the return game.
I don’t know if the Vikings needed to use a 4th round pick for him, but as far as the player is concerned, this is a great pick. He will contribute immediately.
No!!!! 4th rounders are not for lottery tickets.CharVike wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 2:29 pmWatching a guy that long gives you some insight. That type of speed is hard to find. Basically a game breaker as a KR is great for a 4th round pick. It's not like round 4 is full of starting off the bat players. Getting a guy that contributes day 1 is a great pick. I've seen many games won and lost from special teams play.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 2:05 pm
I watched Nwangu at Iowa State for 4 years. Kene is FAST, as in 4.3 fast. He doesn’t have loose hips, which means he doesn’t have the wiggle ability you’d like in a bell cow running back. But if he gets in the open field, he’s really hard to catch.
The Vikings drafted him primarily for one reason ... to return kicks. He’s extremely dangerous, averaging about 29 yards. Analysts have compared him to Cordarelle Patterson. He’s not quite as big at 6-0, 210, but I’d say that’s accurate. Many here have said the 4th round is early for a KR, but Nwangu is not just any kick returner. Seriously. He’s an instant upgrade there and likely puts the Vikings in the top 5 in that category.
As a running back, he didn’t get a lot of chances. First he played behind David Montgomery, then Breece Hall, who was the Big 12 Freshman of the Year one season and the nation’s leading rusher the next. But Kene had some nice highlights when he got his carries, with several long TD runs. He’s also a reliable receiver out of the backfield. He’ll be at least as good as Mike Boone was, with the added ability to be a difference maker in the return game.
I don’t know if the Vikings needed to use a 4th round pick for him, but as far as the player is concerned, this is a great pick. He will contribute immediately.