Trent Williams

[Dakotavike]

Stay safe Bowhunting Viking and all others out there! As for the Williams trade, I personally think it would be worth Reiff and our extra 3rd from the comp pick. Is it a steep price? Kinda, but seems like it might enough to get it done and we would get to keep Harris. I really want to find a way to get this done. Between Williams and all our other draft picks I think we could be sitting pretty post draft. Just my 2 cents.

[RandyMoss84]

Stay safe Bowhunting Viking and all others out there! As for the Williams trade, I personally think it would be worth Reiff and our extra 3rd from the comp pick. Is it a steep price? Kinda, but seems like it might enough to get it done and we would get to keep Harris. I really want to find a way to get this done. Between Williams and all our other draft picks I think we could be sitting pretty post draft. Just my 2 cents.

Reiff and a 3rd is not a steep price, it is a fair price

[StumpHunter]

Stay safe Bowhunting Viking and all others out there! As for the Williams trade, I personally think it would be worth Reiff and our extra 3rd from the comp pick. Is it a steep price? Kinda, but seems like it might enough to get it done and we would get to keep Harris. I really want to find a way to get this done. Between Williams and all our other draft picks I think we could be sitting pretty post draft. Just my 2 cents.

Reiff and a 3rd is not a steep price, it is a fair price

I would do that in a minute if I were the Vikings and I was able to get a team doctor to examine him first.

[VikingsVictorious]

Stay safe Bowhunting Viking and all others out there! As for the Williams trade, I personally think it would be worth Reiff and our extra 3rd from the comp pick. Is it a steep price? Kinda, but seems like it might enough to get it done and we would get to keep Harris. I really want to find a way to get this done. Between Williams and all our other draft picks I think we could be sitting pretty post draft. Just my 2 cents.

Sounds good but how we going to clear the cap space. Reiff doesn't get it done.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Stay safe Bowhunting Viking and all others out there! As for the Williams trade, I personally think it would be worth Reiff and our extra 3rd from the comp pick. Is it a steep price? Kinda, but seems like it might enough to get it done and we would get to keep Harris. I really want to find a way to get this done. Between Williams and all our other draft picks I think we could be sitting pretty post draft. Just my 2 cents.

Sounds good but how we going to clear the cap space. Reiff doesn't get it done.

Well trading Reiff would save us $8.8 million. It could be enough depending on what we would want to give Williams year 1 of his deal. However, the more I look at it, it we trade Reiff AFTER June 1st it saves us $11 million. But to wait until then is risky because Williams could easily be dealt to another team by then.

Other ways we can get some cap relief is cutting Elflein. I'm still confused as to why we are keeping him? I was fine holding onto him as depth but not as a starter. However, we resigned both Jones and Dozier. So there is our depth. Maybe they are keeping him for emergency purposes in the sense of not being able to find 2 starting guards between now and the draft. I dont understand why they dont just plug Jones into the starting lineup. He's played guard before his rookie year and graded very high in limited snaps. The following year he played center and graded halfway decent. Use him as the emergency starting option and get the money in return for Elflein.

We could still cut Stephen as well but Zim seems to be a big fan of his.

[Bowhunting Viking]

Stay safe Bowhunting Viking and all others out there! As for the Williams trade, I personally think it would be worth Reiff and our extra 3rd from the comp pick. Is it a steep price? Kinda, but seems like it might enough to get it done and we would get to keep Harris. I really want to find a way to get this done. Between Williams and all our other draft picks I think we could be sitting pretty post draft. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks buddy appreciate it that. Seem to be doing ok. Unfortunately there are confirmed coronavirus cases showing up in our small community and that isnt good. Well it isnt good anywhere.
On the Trent Williams front, I won't go into alot of detail and take up alot if space, and dont wanna get home up just in case it falls through. But, so far 2 teams are really in.play trying to sign him. I will tell you for a fact that the Vijes are really doing all the can to work a deal to make it happen, and coming directly from Williams, he would like to be spending the next phase of his career in purple. And I'm not talking Baltimore. So if it all plays out the way as hoped we will have a Pro Bowl LT who is very tested and fresh, and real hungry. Let's hope

[S197]

The more I think about it the more I think Williams is a pass. He’s better off with another team, someone that is in the window now. The Vikings are better off drafting someone and hoping in 2-3 years he’s starter worthy. It’s basically what we’re doing with half the team right now. Williams age and also injury history isn’t conducive to a team in rebuild mode.

[Pondering Her Percy]

The more I think about it the more I think Williams is a pass. He’s better off with another team, someone that is in the window now. The Vikings are better off drafting someone and hoping in 2-3 years he’s starter worthy. It’s basically what we’re doing with half the team right now. Williams age and also injury history isn’t conducive to a team in rebuild mode.

I gotta respectfully disagree. I don’t think we are out of that window at all. We still have a good QB, two stud RB, a stud WR, two solid TEs, a few building blocks on the OL, one of the best DEs in the nfl, a top 3 run stuffer, one of the better LB duos in the league, easily the best safety duo in the league. Like yeah there are holes but this is still 100% a playoff team IMO. Especially given that 7 teams make it now. And I think if we play our cards right and Spielman drafts well, we can be more than just a playoff team in a year.

Williams is 32. As long as he proves to be fairly healthy, whoever he goes to he will play for them for another 5+ years. It’s not like he’s a 1-2 year contract guy that only win now teams can take. He’s in the category of Staley, Joe Thomas, Whitworth, Jason Peters, Tyron Smith. They play a long time and are successful for a long time. That’s Williams

Also, you have to take into consideration that if we don’t make that deal it’s just one more position we HAVE to address this year or at the latest, next year. By getting Williams, we shouldn’t have to touch the tackle spot for another 4+ years. We already have WR, LG, RG, DT, DE, CBx2 and possibly safety to fill. Why add left tackle to that list when we don’t need to. Given the Williams deal I suggested (Reiff and a 4th) we lose minimal draft capital and drastically improve a position. If we make this deal, we’d have arguably the best pass blocking tackle duo in the nfl. When was the last time we could say that? Stringer and Steussie? McKinnon and Loadholt maybe? I think we are out of our minds if we don’t find a way to make this deal the more I look at it.

I’m working on an updated mock which should be out within the next few days

[fiestavike]

The more I think about it the more I think Williams is a pass. He’s better off with another team, someone that is in the window now. The Vikings are better off drafting someone and hoping in 2-3 years he’s starter worthy. It’s basically what we’re doing with half the team right now. Williams age and also injury history isn’t conducive to a team in rebuild mode.

It could be a disjointed move. Its not easy to tell whether the Vikings are prioritizing opening a new window in a couple years, or trying to win now, or simultaneously trying to do both. Williams would appear to be a win now move, however, if the Vikings front load his contract, draft a QB this year, and trade Cousins before next year, their 2nd year QB gets to start with a probowl left tackle. If they plan to keep Cousins and think they are in a window now, building a top notch OL is priority one (in my view), and trading for Williams once again might make sense.

Also, I don't love the T prospects at 22. Lots of guys with upside and poor footwork. Frankly I think many of those tackles at that point in the draft are probably a reach, and won't be likely to provide upgraded pass protection over Reiff for at least another year, best case scenario.

[StumpHunter]

The more I think about it the more I think Williams is a pass. He’s better off with another team, someone that is in the window now. The Vikings are better off drafting someone and hoping in 2-3 years he’s starter worthy. It’s basically what we’re doing with half the team right now. Williams age and also injury history isn’t conducive to a team in rebuild mode.

I gotta respectfully disagree. I don’t think we are out of that window at all. We still have a good QB, two stud RB, a stud WR, two solid TEs, a few building blocks on the OL, one of the best DEs in the nfl, a top 3 run stuffer, one of the better LB duos in the league, easily the best safety duo in the league. Like yeah there are holes but this is still 100% a playoff team IMO. Especially given that 7 teams make it now. And I think if we play our cards right and Spielman drafts well, we can be more than just a playoff team in a year.

Williams is 32. As long as he proves to be fairly healthy, whoever he goes to he will play for them for another 5+ years. It’s not like he’s a 1-2 year contract guy that only win now teams can take. He’s in the category of Staley, Joe Thomas, Whitworth, Jason Peters, Tyron Smith. They play a long time and are successful for a long time. That’s Williams

Also, you have to take into consideration that if we don’t make that deal it’s just one more position we HAVE to address this year or at the latest, next year. By getting Williams, we shouldn’t have to touch the tackle spot for another 4+ years. We already have WR, LG, RG, DT, DE, CBx2 and possibly safety to fill. Why add left tackle to that list when we don’t need to. Given the Williams deal I suggested (Reiff and a 4th) we lose minimal draft capital and drastically improve a position. If we make this deal, we’d have arguably the best pass blocking tackle duo in the nfl. When was the last time we could say that? Stringer and Steussie? McKinnon and Loadholt maybe? I think we are out of our minds if we don’t find a way to make this deal the more I look at it.

I’m working on an updated mock which should be out within the next few days

Joe Thomas retired at 33 and he was the epitome of a healthy tackle his entire career, so there is precedence for elite Tackles to not last until they are 38.

I would like them to take a shot at Williams for this coming year, but committing 17-18 million a year to a guy with health concerns after that year is a scary thought.

[Bowhunting Viking]

Per my info given to me from William'sdmgreat friend and ex teammate , the Vikes are working very seriously at getting him under contract with us. The Browns are also coming at him very aggressively. I can also tell you for sure that he himself is definitely hoping to have it work out for him to be a Viking.
Another thing, yes he us 32 yrs old. But , and this comes from from the guy who played right beside him for 6 seasons, he is healthy, very well rested and very hungry to get away from the Skins debacle and play for a good organization.
So I know he wants to be a Viking, and its gonna be interesting to see if we are able to do enough maneuvering without hurting the roster to get it done.
Guess we will know before too long possibly.
If I hear anything before its announced publicly I will post it here.

[Pondering Her Percy]

I gotta respectfully disagree. I don’t think we are out of that window at all. We still have a good QB, two stud RB, a stud WR, two solid TEs, a few building blocks on the OL, one of the best DEs in the nfl, a top 3 run stuffer, one of the better LB duos in the league, easily the best safety duo in the league. Like yeah there are holes but this is still 100% a playoff team IMO. Especially given that 7 teams make it now. And I think if we play our cards right and Spielman drafts well, we can be more than just a playoff team in a year.

Williams is 32. As long as he proves to be fairly healthy, whoever he goes to he will play for them for another 5+ years. It’s not like he’s a 1-2 year contract guy that only win now teams can take. He’s in the category of Staley, Joe Thomas, Whitworth, Jason Peters, Tyron Smith. They play a long time and are successful for a long time. That’s Williams

Also, you have to take into consideration that if we don’t make that deal it’s just one more position we HAVE to address this year or at the latest, next year. By getting Williams, we shouldn’t have to touch the tackle spot for another 4+ years. We already have WR, LG, RG, DT, DE, CBx2 and possibly safety to fill. Why add left tackle to that list when we don’t need to. Given the Williams deal I suggested (Reiff and a 4th) we lose minimal draft capital and drastically improve a position. If we make this deal, we’d have arguably the best pass blocking tackle duo in the nfl. When was the last time we could say that? Stringer and Steussie? McKinnon and Loadholt maybe? I think we are out of our minds if we don’t find a way to make this deal the more I look at it.

I’m working on an updated mock which should be out within the next few days

Joe Thomas retired at 33 and he was the epitome of a healthy tackle his entire career, so there is precedence for elite Tackles to not last until they are 38.

I would like them to take a shot at Williams for this coming year, but committing 17-18 million a year to a guy with health concerns after that year is a scary thought.

That’s not the point. The point is, Thomas could’ve easily continued to play 5 more years, mostly being at a high level. He simply decided to hang them up. He was still very good at age 33. This elite class of tackles can play deep into their 30s and at a high level. Williams is one of those guys.

And the $18 million per year rumor was already proved false. Looks like it’s going to be around $14-$16 million.

[fiestavike]

I gotta respectfully disagree. I don’t think we are out of that window at all. We still have a good QB, two stud RB, a stud WR, two solid TEs, a few building blocks on the OL, one of the best DEs in the nfl, a top 3 run stuffer, one of the better LB duos in the league, easily the best safety duo in the league. Like yeah there are holes but this is still 100% a playoff team IMO. Especially given that 7 teams make it now. And I think if we play our cards right and Spielman drafts well, we can be more than just a playoff team in a year.

Williams is 32. As long as he proves to be fairly healthy, whoever he goes to he will play for them for another 5+ years. It’s not like he’s a 1-2 year contract guy that only win now teams can take. He’s in the category of Staley, Joe Thomas, Whitworth, Jason Peters, Tyron Smith. They play a long time and are successful for a long time. That’s Williams

Also, you have to take into consideration that if we don’t make that deal it’s just one more position we HAVE to address this year or at the latest, next year. By getting Williams, we shouldn’t have to touch the tackle spot for another 4+ years. We already have WR, LG, RG, DT, DE, CBx2 and possibly safety to fill. Why add left tackle to that list when we don’t need to. Given the Williams deal I suggested (Reiff and a 4th) we lose minimal draft capital and drastically improve a position. If we make this deal, we’d have arguably the best pass blocking tackle duo in the nfl. When was the last time we could say that? Stringer and Steussie? McKinnon and Loadholt maybe? I think we are out of our minds if we don’t find a way to make this deal the more I look at it.

I’m working on an updated mock which should be out within the next few days

Joe Thomas retired at 33 and he was the epitome of a healthy tackle his entire career, so there is precedence for elite Tackles to not last until they are 38.

I would like them to take a shot at Williams for this coming year, but committing 17-18 million a year to a guy with health concerns after that year is a scary thought.

Can you imagine being that good and having to spend your whole career with the Browns? Poor Joe Thomas. He certainly could have kept playing, but I don't blame him for having had enough.

[StumpHunter]

Per my info given to me from William'sdmgreat friend and ex teammate , the Vikes are working very seriously at getting him under contract with us. The Browns are also coming at him very aggressively. I can also tell you for sure that he himself is definitely hoping to have it work out for him to be a Viking.
Another thing, yes he us 32 yrs old. But , and this comes from from the guy who played right beside him for 6 seasons, he is healthy, very well rested and very hungry to get away from the Skins debacle and play for a good organization.
So I know he wants to be a Viking, and its gonna be interesting to see if we are able to do enough maneuvering without hurting the roster to get it done.
Guess we will know before too long possibly.
If I hear anything before its announced publicly I will post it here.

I don't like that it is the Browns we are competing with. They are an organization that is typically willing to overpay for players in trades, they are drafting higher than us in every round so their picks have more value, and Washington would much rather send him to Cleveland than to the Vikings.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Per my info given to me from William'sdmgreat friend and ex teammate , the Vikes are working very seriously at getting him under contract with us. The Browns are also coming at him very aggressively. I can also tell you for sure that he himself is definitely hoping to have it work out for him to be a Viking.
Another thing, yes he us 32 yrs old. But , and this comes from from the guy who played right beside him for 6 seasons, he is healthy, very well rested and very hungry to get away from the Skins debacle and play for a good organization.
So I know he wants to be a Viking, and its gonna be interesting to see if we are able to do enough maneuvering without hurting the roster to get it done.
Guess we will know before too long possibly.
If I hear anything before its announced publicly I will post it here.

Yeah that’s redskins organization is just pathetic. I don’t think there is an organization ran worse than them. Clueless front office, clueless coaches (gruden), etc. Like just think about all the crap they’ve brought on themselves. Their GM was a drunk, refused to give cousins a deal and now they are rotting with Haskins, the Williams debacle, quinton Dunbar just called them out yesterday on twitter for how much of a joke they are. They gave Ronald Darby $1 million less than Dunbar and let Dunbar walk. And Dunbar is a stud but they broke off talks with him over $1 million.

And guys say “there is a reason Washington wouldn’t commit to cousins”. Lol yeah because the entire organization is compiled of idiots. Cousins is probably happy now that they did that looking back. Because talk about someone that would rot in an organization it would’ve been cousins as they continue to fail year after year to build around him. That organization is the laughing stock of the nfl. I feel bad for Rivera. No idea why he’d take that job