StumpHunter wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:03 am
We are a team that struggles against good pass rushes, and the Saints are 4th in sacks on the year.
The Vikings need to run the ball to be successful on offense, and Saints are 5th against the run this year.
On the other side of the ball, they are just a really good all around offense. The one thing we got going is MT is their only good receiver. Their offensive line isn't as good as it was last year, and they put their team in bad spots with a lot of holds. 1st and 20's are common. Pretty much the only time that offense has been stopped it has been self inflicted penalties, drops or drops that leads to interceptions.
Brees' arm is complete garbage and he cannot throw deep. Every team that plays them knows this though, and he still is gauging teams for big gains. They scored 46 on the best defense in the NFC, we aren't that.
If the Vikings win, it is because the OC called a great game and Zimmer out coached Peyton on defense. They are a better team than we are. Much better.
Didn't the Saints have some key injuries along the defensive line though? Those sack and rush stats might be a little inflated if key guys for them are out. I don't know if key guys are out, but I thought I read that somewhere.
Yeah, the Saints are a team that should probably dispatch of the Vikings quite easily, but I keep hoping Zimmer will uncork the beast and go after them. The Vikings have the talent to deal with the Saints. They just need to unleash it on both sides of the ball.
fiestavike wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:09 am
I'm not joking when I say, I think Kirk should pound several beers and a hurricane before the game starts.
fiestavike wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:09 am
I'm not joking when I say, I think Kirk should pound several beers and a hurricane before the game starts.
Kirk Kramer
Gotta find a way to get the guy to loosen up in a big moment.
Really hoping Zimmer can get this squad up for the challenge. On paper we're just as talented as the Saints but in big game moments we are nothing in comparison. Let's take a look at our losses this year:
at GB: Got down 21-0 in the first 20 minutes of the game. Sure, the offense could've combat this by playing better - but Rodgers could get anything he wanted against us in those first 20 minutes. We adjusted after the half and Kirk blew a chance at the comeback, but this showed me that Zimmer was not prepared for a huge division game (again) and/or was outschemed by a rookie head coach.
at CHI: Offense has a huge flop. Defense also couldn't get off the field against Chicago's back-up QB. Don't think this was necessarily on Zimmer but the defense was pretty disappointing playing against Chase Daniel. We lost the time of possession battle 35 minutes to 25 minutes.
at KC: Same story as Chase Daniel - backup QB comes in and doesn't put up huge numbers but puts together a bunch of long drives and 3rd down conversions to get the win against our defense.
at SEA: "This loss wasn't the end of the world" nonsense. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 here but it was also really clear at gametime that this game would determine quite a bit of the NFC playoff picture. Cousins outperforms Wilson but the defense allows 200+ yards of rushing.
vs GB: Media probably made this game a bigger deal than it actually was (very small chance we were getting any spot besides 5 or 6 seed), but nonetheless a huge home game against our biggest rival and it was our biggest dud all year. At Chicago was also a huge dud but somewhat understandable since it was away in Chicago. This game was at home and it looked like GB was teeing off on defense every play. No creativity to get other guys involved with Cook out - "just plug and play Boone and we'll be good" was clearly the gameplan and when that didn't work, they had no answers.
vs CHI: This one didn't really matter since we were playing 2nd and 3rd stringers but we lost in the same fashion we've lost most of the year - defense letting us down when we need them.
If you looked at the schedule at the beginning of the year, you would've circled every one of these games as the "big games" or "important games" of the season and Zimmer didn't have his team ready for them or our defense let us down in them. I know that "big game" is super subjective and all games are "big games", but Zimmer literally went 1-7 (win @ Dallas also a big game) this year in important games.
Doesn't give me much hope for this weekend but I hope he's got something up his sleeve.
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:18 am
Cam Jordan had 14.5 sacks while the second leading sack guy was Davenport with 6. Basically if you block Cam you should be alright. They will need to run it though and the saints run d is pretty solid.
He will be the problem child. He will destroy Reif. Free run to the QB. I'm shaking for Cousins. He's dead meat with this match up. This is their number 55 I guess.
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:18 am
Cam Jordan had 14.5 sacks while the second leading sack guy was Davenport with 6. Basically if you block Cam you should be alright. They will need to run it though and the saints run d is pretty solid.
He will be the problem child. He will destroy Reif. Free run to the QB. I'm shaking for Cousins. He's dead meat with this match up. This is their number 55 I guess.
I think he will be going up against O' Neil unless they move him around (which would be smart). They need to make sure they double him as much as possible. Give him the Mack treatment.
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halfgiz wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:24 am
Not sure even if we have a good game we will beat the Saints.
We just haven't showed any consistency in big games.
We'll know pretty quickly if we've got throwing Kirk or aiming Kirk, and if we get aiming Kirk, you can turn that game off straight away.
Here we go. It's all Kirk. How about Reif doing something? That don't matter? How about Cook ripping off some big gains straight away. If we pound the ball his passing is just a change up. If they stuff our ground game turn the lights out. There's more to this game than just Kirk. If he blows yes it will hurt. If Reif gets blown up again it's over. If Cook doesn't get back to early season form it's over. Give me Reif dominating that rusher and Cook banging the ball big time. Then we will have the best chance. Everything else will fall into place.
CharVike wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:13 pm
He will be the problem child. He will destroy Reif. Free run to the QB. I'm shaking for Cousins. He's dead meat with this match up. This is their number 55 I guess.
I think he will be going up against O' Neil unless they move him around (which would be smart). They need to make sure they double him as much as possible. Give him the Mack treatment.
I don't know much about the Saints. I pay little attention because they are a media favorite. Nothing they do is wrong. I hope we take that fan base out quickly. Make that stadium silent. Just like 87. A nice opening drive on the ground for about 7 minutes and a score will shut them up. That's why I hope we use what was built and pound the rock down their throats. Won't be easy but that's our only choice. Otherwise they will tee off on our OL and bring big time pressure. Let our OL tee off on them. Pound them into the ground.
StumpHunter wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:03 am
We are a team that struggles against good pass rushes, and the Saints are 4th in sacks on the year.
The Vikings need to run the ball to be successful on offense, and Saints are 5th against the run this year.
On the other side of the ball, they are just a really good all around offense. The one thing we got going is MT is their only good receiver. Their offensive line isn't as good as it was last year, and they put their team in bad spots with a lot of holds. 1st and 20's are common. Pretty much the only time that offense has been stopped it has been self inflicted penalties, drops or drops that leads to interceptions.
Brees' arm is complete garbage and he cannot throw deep. Every team that plays them knows this though, and he still is gauging teams for big gains. They scored 46 on the best defense in the NFC, we aren't that.
If the Vikings win, it is because the OC called a great game and Zimmer out coached Peyton on defense. They are a better team than we are. Much better.
Didn't the Saints have some key injuries along the defensive line though? Those sack and rush stats might be a little inflated if key guys for them are out. I don't know if key guys are out, but I thought I read that somewhere.
Yeah, the Saints are a team that should probably dispatch of the Vikings quite easily, but I keep hoping Zimmer will uncork the beast and go after them. The Vikings have the talent to deal with the Saints. They just need to unleash it on both sides of the ball.
They did lose their tackles I believe. Cam Jordan is their best pass rusher though.
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:41 pm
I think they go in playing with house money and match up well with the Saints. If they can get Cook and Mattison going they will win imo. Rhodes can cover Thomas. Both are big, physical, and slow. Much rather play at the Saints than at Seattle. The wild card is just one more chance to earn glory in battle. Bye weeks are for sissies. Let's go!!!
I’ve been saying the past few days I think we match up better with the saints as well. We tend to struggle with mobile QBs. We’ve given Brees fits before. I’m not sold on their defense either. Plus it’s a good thing being in a dome IMO.
We gotta go back to our bread and butter offense tho. I would think cook and mattison are back and we need to utilize them big time. Hopefully Thielen is back up to par. Everyone should be healthy. We can’t sit cousins back in this pocket. Utilize the rollouts and screen game. I like our chances
Brees is a media guy. Look up that losers record in big games. Most think he wins all his big games. We beat his arse the last playoff game with a stiff backup QB and so so D that got crushed the following week. He's a choker. Zim needs to apply the pressure and he will give up. I've seen it before. He will want no more of it. We have a lot of positives. But this D needs to step up big time for us to win.
fiestavike wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:09 am
I'm not joking when I say, I think Kirk should pound several beers and a hurricane before the game starts.
Kirk Kramer
Tommy wouldn't pound several. That would be the warm up. How about Reif what should he do to unwind. He's about to get his clock cleaned. This Cam guy will look at him and he'll fall over. That will be the nightmare match up for us. Maybe Herion?
Tommy wouldn't pound several. That would be the warm up. How about Reif what should he do to unwind. He's about to get his clock cleaned. This Cam guy will look at him and he'll fall over. That will be the nightmare match up for us. Maybe Herion?
Heroin makes you nod off and Blackout. I think he's already been using it in the huddle.
He needs to snort about 6 big lines of coke at the beginning of each qtr if he is gonna have a chance at blocking Jordan.
I just wanna die as a Super Bowl Champion Viking Fan!!
CharVike wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:49 pm
Tommy wouldn't pound several. That would be the warm up. How about Reif what should he do to unwind. He's about to get his clock cleaned. This Cam guy will look at him and he'll fall over. That will be the nightmare match up for us. Maybe Herion?
Heroin makes you nod off and Blackout. I think he's already been using it in the huddle.
He needs to snort about 6 big lines of coke at the beginning of each qtr if he is gonna have a chance at blocking Jordan.
Can he grow a set of balls with anything. He's gonna need them. That position needs to be number one this off season. No matter what it takes.
