Vikings Playoff Scenarios

[Pondering Her Percy]

This one kills me Now granted, I'm not wasting my time looking into all these other games. Some games he played great in, some he played terrible in. Just like any other QB in the NFL.

But let me get this straight....for example, IF we LOST to the Eagles and Cowboys that would count against Cousins record vs. "winning teams" because they would both currently be 7-6 instead of 6-7. But since we WON those games, it counts towards his "below .500" record because they are both 6-7. How is that fair when trying to say "Cousins struggles against good teams but dominates bad ones" when you're the one sitting there making the call on who is "good" and who is "bad" Do you now understand why I'm saying "it only counts when Stump wants it to count"?? Do you realize how weak your argument is here? In all honesty, it's a stupid fricken argument. I've said time and time again, what matters is what he is doing right now. Not last year, not in Washington, not in college.....right now. And right now he is 9-4. I dont care if those 9 wins came from beating high school teams or beating the Patriots. They are wins.

No. Completely wrong and mischaracterizing the criticism of cousins from anyone I've seen on here. Please stop saying 'lol' in your responses. Its snarky and rude and in no way paints what you are about to say in an impressive light.

Where in the post of mine you quoted did I say “lol”? Because I put a laughing face? Because I didn’t say “lol”. And sorry but I think it’s quite comical that stump wants to put the Dallas and philly game under the losing team record, but would immediately put them under the winning team record teams if we lost to them...in a heartbeat. How is that a fair interpretation?? If you want to sit there and go along with it, so be it. But like I’ve said before, at this point, I don’t care what cousins did last year, I don’t care what he did in Washington and so on. I care about what he’s doing now. And the fact that he consistently hunts for loop holes in order give cousins zero credit for anything and wants to dwell in the past gets old. No different than when guys on here dwelled about spielmans past in Miami. Like, did I fricken matter?? No. Not a soul on here watched Washington close enough (outside of maybe bow hunting Viking) to know what happened in those games and what were the cause of losses. They just see Cousins “record”. I’m done listening to the win loss record, the prime time games, the winning/losing team record, etc. I’m listening and watching what’s happening now. And in the end, cousins is playing like a top QB in the nfl. So enough with all the other crap. Enjoy what’s going on now and quit trying to find fault with everything the QB does. It’s not all on him and if anyone thinks it is, you’re sadly mistaken

[fiestavike]

No. Completely wrong and mischaracterizing the criticism of cousins from anyone I've seen on here. Please stop saying 'lol' in your responses. Its snarky and rude and in no way paints what you are about to say in an impressive light.

Where in the post of mine you quoted did I say “lol”? Because I put a laughing face? Because I didn’t say “lol”. And sorry but I think it’s quite comical that stump wants to put the Dallas and philly game under the losing team record, but would immediately put them under the winning team record teams if we lost to them...in a heartbeat. How is that a fair interpretation?? If you want to sit there and go along with it, so be it. But like I’ve said before, at this point, I don’t care what cousins did last year, I don’t care what he did in Washington and so on. I care about what he’s doing now. And the fact that he consistently hunts for loop holes in order give cousins zero credit for anything and wants to dwell in the past gets old. No different than when guys on here dwelled about spielmans past in Miami. Like, did I fricken matter?? No. Not a soul on here watched Washington close enough (outside of maybe bow hunting Viking) to know what happened in those games and what were the cause of losses. They just see Cousins “record”. I’m done listening to the win loss record, the prime time games, the winning/losing team record, etc. I’m listening and watching what’s happening now. And in the end, cousins is playing like a top QB in the nfl. So enough with all the other crap. Enjoy what’s going on now and quit trying to find fault with everything the QB does. It’s not all on him and if anyone thinks it is, you’re sadly mistaken

Not sure who you are even talking to at this point.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Where in the post of mine you quoted did I say “lol”? Because I put a laughing face? Because I didn’t say “lol”. And sorry but I think it’s quite comical that stump wants to put the Dallas and philly game under the losing team record, but would immediately put them under the winning team record teams if we lost to them...in a heartbeat. How is that a fair interpretation?? If you want to sit there and go along with it, so be it. But like I’ve said before, at this point, I don’t care what cousins did last year, I don’t care what he did in Washington and so on. I care about what he’s doing now. And the fact that he consistently hunts for loop holes in order give cousins zero credit for anything and wants to dwell in the past gets old. No different than when guys on here dwelled about spielmans past in Miami. Like, did I fricken matter?? No. Not a soul on here watched Washington close enough (outside of maybe bow hunting Viking) to know what happened in those games and what were the cause of losses. They just see Cousins “record”. I’m done listening to the win loss record, the prime time games, the winning/losing team record, etc. I’m listening and watching what’s happening now. And in the end, cousins is playing like a top QB in the nfl. So enough with all the other crap. Enjoy what’s going on now and quit trying to find fault with everything the QB does. It’s not all on him and if anyone thinks it is, you’re sadly mistaken

Not sure who you are even talking to at this point.

Ok cool. Conversation over with

[StumpHunter]

I have never mentioned Cousins in primetime,

You havent??? Hmmmm.....

but that is fine that people disagree with me on my takes that Cousins has exactly one comeback win in his career as a Viking

Way more to it than your typical "on the surface" arguments that I consistently call you out for and you continue to bring up. Sure he has "exactly 1 comeback win as a Viking". It also depends on what people consider a "comeback". He's lost 11 games as a Vikings. Had 1 tie. The tie was a definite comeback as he consistently put us in position to score but our kicker failed. Or the Rams game where our defense gives up 38 and were tooled on all game. Or the Seattle game where our defense gave up 37 and were also tooled on all game. Are we really going to "dog" Cousins for not "coming back" in those games? Sounds a little ridiculous if you ask me. Are there games he could have came back in but didnt? Sure. No denying that. But to say all 11 losses were on him and HE was unable to comeback isnt a fair assessment at all.

is an above average QB who struggles against good teams while domination bad ones (1-9 as a QB for the Vikings against winning teams, 16-2-1 against below .500 teams)

This one kills me Now granted, I'm not wasting my time looking into all these other games. Some games he played great in, some he played terrible in. Just like any other QB in the NFL.

But let me get this straight....for example, IF we LOST to the Eagles and Cowboys that would count against Cousins record vs. "winning teams" because they would both currently be 7-6 instead of 6-7. But since we WON those games, it counts towards his "below .500" record because they are both 6-7. How is that fair when trying to say "Cousins struggles against good teams but dominates bad ones" when you're the one sitting there making the call on who is "good" and who is "bad" Do you now understand why I'm saying "it only counts when Stump wants it to count"?? Do you realize how weak your argument is here? In all honesty, it's a stupid fricken argument. I've said time and time again, what matters is what he is doing right now. Not last year, not in Washington, not in college.....right now. And right now he is 9-4. I dont care if those 9 wins came from beating high school teams or beating the Patriots. They are wins.

The defense isn't the problem when they give up 13 points in a game

Not sure what game they gave up 13 points in? If you're talking about Chicago and giving up 16, yeah...go look at the time of possession. Chicago annihilated us. They couldnt get Chase Daniel off the field. As bad as our offense was that game (averaging 3.8 yards per play on offense), the Bears averaged 4.0 yards per play. But that's what Daniel did all game was check down and took what the defense gave him. And the defense couldnt figure out how to stop it. Hence why they had over 35 minutes of possession. I'm not letting neither the offense or defense off the hook that game, but just looking at a "final score" (another typical on the surface argument of yours) and saying the D played well because Chicago only scored 16, shows me you dont know football. Because a final score doesnt always tell the whole story. You should know this, because nobody can ever throw Kirk Cousins "numbers" out there with you ripping apart every aspect of his game. Pot meet kettle.

That Rhodes has not been targeted as much as, or given up as many yards or TDs per game as Waynes

and where are you seeing this stat? I'd like to see proof because I'm not finding it anywhere. And ever since you started defending Rhodes on here, he's made you look more and more foolish by the week. Similar to how Cousins has made you look.

or that an OL that has given up the least pressure over the past 4 games of ANY Oline in the NFL for the QB holding the ball longer than ANY QB in the NFL.

OMG you and this stupid stat. Comments like this is where you tend to become a troll in peoples books. Because you continue to bring it up when it's been proved to be faulty multiple times.

2016: 2.81 seconds 23 sacks taken
2017: 2.7 seconds 41 sacks taken
2018: 2.74 seconds 40 sacks taken
2019: 3.01 seconds 23 sacks taken

Yup I have eyes too. I can see that next gen stats says Kirk Cousins "holds the ball longer than any QB in the NFL". Dont you think it's a little odd that Cousins has never taken "this much time to throw" in his career? You dont think that has anything to do with the offense we are currently running where they are pulling him AWAY from that brutal pass blocking OL?? You dont find it odd that this is the best season of Kirk Cousins career?? Remember you claimed he held the ball too long, was a turn over machine, had a fumbling issue, etc? How's all that looking this year?? I will say it's made you look like you dont have a clue what you are talking about. All you've complained about all year with him is that "he holds the ball too long" yet he's only taken 23 sacks? Hmmm weird. And you complain about that because you have nothing left to complain about. I've said time and time again this is all you have left to hang onto and the funny thing is, it's not even helping your argument because he's currently playing like a top QB in the NFL.

In week 11 vs Denver, Cousins held the ball 2.66 seconds. It was the 6th "fastest" in the NFL that week. But he was sacked.....5 times. YET, last week he held the ball for 3.51 seconds. Longest in the NFL that week. But was sacked 1 time (later in the game no less). So again, what did you prove?? NOTHING. So stop with your bogus little argument that means nothing, proves nothing, shows nothing, etc. It's annoying and repetitive and to be honest, nobody cares about it, especially when we're 9-4 and our QB is playing lights out.

If people want to argue their opinions are more valuable than cold hard facts, good for them. Sometimes there is context around those facts, that make them less relevant. Sometimes people just get angry and start name calling when faced with reality like Kapp does. Or change the argument to one they can win that no one is arguing, like you do.

I'm pretty sure I just provided plenty of cold hard facts above. 95% of my posts have to do with analytics and stats which are FACTS. My posts have been like that since the day I joined. I dont bring bullshi# comments and opinions to the board. So keep tooting your own horn and telling yourself you are a QB guru and know everything there is to know. But I honestly think you're more embarrassed that you've been proved wrong so many times this year and have nowhere else to run other than continuing to find loop holes to support your opinion. I can tell you you're running out of options.

I am posting the reality of what has happened this year, not arguing sources, hypothisizing teams won more games than they actually have, rewriting history and inferring the player who has fumbled more than anyone since 2015 doesn't have a fumbling problem, or that he didn't turn the ball over the third most last year. Claiming a QB having the ability to get rid of the ball quickly isn't a good thing...

I don't look for loopholes. I want the Vikings and Cousins to succeed. I want them to win out and prove they are capable of competing in the playoffs.


Also, for like the third time: playerprofiler.com

Rhodes has fewer yards and TDs given up than Waynes. That is not a defense of Rhodes, that is an indictment on Waynes.

Still waiting on that link to your Cousins time in the pocket stat that proved me right...

[Pondering Her Percy]

rewriting history and inferring the player who has fumbled more than anyone since 2015 doesn't have a fumbling problem

My point exactly. You're living in Cousins' past because it's the only thing you can even argue right now. WHO CARES what he did before. He's not doing that NOW. And NOW is what matters. He's lost 3 fumbles this year. Which is average for a QB

or that he didn't turn the ball over the third most last year.

Again, LAST year. Not NOW. He has 8 total turnovers this year. And I would say a good 3 of those werent even on him. The only QBs that have less INTs this year than Cousins is Rodgers, Brees and Mahomes. And you could make a good case that 2 (possibly 3) of the 5 ints he has werent even on him. Yet you're still sitting here complaining about LAST YEAR.

I don't look for loopholes. I want the Vikings and Cousins to succeed. I want them to win out and prove they are capable of competing in the playoffs.

They are succeeding right now. Especially Cousins. And you're still sitting here bringing up stats from LAST YEAR.

Also, for like the third time: playerprofiler.com

Rhodes has fewer yards and TDs given up than Waynes. That is not a defense of Rhodes, that is an indictment on Waynes.

If you can sit here and tell me Rhodes isnt playing bad right now and for most of the season, I dont know what to tell you. This is where "using your eyes" comes into play and not just looking at a stat website.

Still waiting on that link to your Cousins time in the pocket stat that proved me right...

I proved to you that no matter how long he holds the ball, he's still playing at an extremely high level. Holding it over 2.5 seconds he had a rating of like 112.0 and holding it under 2.5 seconds he had like a 112.1 rating. So what are you going to complain about? That he's 0.1% better if he gets rid of the ball in under 2.5 seconds? You CONSTANTLY bring this stat up in threads that he holds it too long and he's STILL playing like a top QB right now. So WHY, I repeat, WHY does that stat matter whatsoever? It doesnt. You try to make it into something it's not because you're desperate. Because he's done nothing but prove you wrong, put every narrative to bed, etc and you have NOTHING more to go on other than "he holds the ball too long" and "he did this last year and that last year". Like enough is enough dude. Nobody cares to watch you come on here and bark about Cousins any chance you get. Anyone with eyes knows he's playing unreal right now and as of this year, living up to his contract. Hell even more than living up to his contract given what Kapp posted. I can tell you right now, this beloved defense you find ways to praise, isnt the reason we are 10-4 right now. You're always the first to point the finger at Cousins when we lose but when we win, you try and give credit to anyone and everyone other than the QB. Weird how that's the case....

I am sorry and I know you'll never admit it but you are WRONG about Kirk Cousins. I know you think you cant be wrong about anything because you have all the stats on playerprofiler.com and you come on here with an arrogance about you like you're a QB guru but you are wrong. And you are wrong about Rhodes and wrong about this OL's pass blocking. If you dont agree, then so be it. Agree to disagree but I know multiple people are sick of what you have brought to this board, especially as of late. Enjoy what is going on right now with this team. Stop trying to find loopholes and meaningless stats in defense to what you were wrong about and enjoy what this team is doing. Especially Kirk Cousins. You're hanging onto arguments like your life is on the line. It's okay to say you're wrong. I've done it, Kapp has done it, Charvike has done it and the list goes on. There is no shame in that.

[Pondering Her Percy]

How do the Packers have the tie breaker over the 49ers when the 49ers kicked the crap out of them head to head??

[StumpHunter]

rewriting history and inferring the player who has fumbled more than anyone since 2015 doesn't have a fumbling problem

My point exactly. You're living in Cousins' past because it's the only thing you can even argue right now. WHO CARES what he did before. He's not doing that NOW. And NOW is what matters. He's lost 3 fumbles this year. Which is average for a QB

or that he didn't turn the ball over the third most last year.

Again, LAST year. Not NOW. He has 8 total turnovers this year. And I would say a good 3 of those werent even on him. The only QBs that have less INTs this year than Cousins is Rodgers, Brees and Mahomes. And you could make a good case that 2 (possibly 3) of the 5 ints he has werent even on him. Yet you're still sitting here complaining about LAST YEAR.

I don't look for loopholes. I want the Vikings and Cousins to succeed. I want them to win out and prove they are capable of competing in the playoffs.

They are succeeding right now. Especially Cousins. And you're still sitting here bringing up stats from LAST YEAR.

Also, for like the third time: playerprofiler.com

Rhodes has fewer yards and TDs given up than Waynes. That is not a defense of Rhodes, that is an indictment on Waynes.

If you can sit here and tell me Rhodes isnt playing bad right now and for most of the season, I dont know what to tell you. This is where "using your eyes" comes into play and not just looking at a stat website.

Still waiting on that link to your Cousins time in the pocket stat that proved me right...

I proved to you that no matter how long he holds the ball, he's still playing at an extremely high level. Holding it over 2.5 seconds he had a rating of like 112.0 and holding it under 2.5 seconds he had like a 112.1 rating. So what are you going to complain about? That he's 0.1% better if he gets rid of the ball in under 2.5 seconds? You CONSTANTLY bring this stat up in threads that he holds it too long and he's STILL playing like a top QB right now. So WHY, I repeat, WHY does that stat matter whatsoever? It doesnt. You try to make it into something it's not because you're desperate. Because he's done nothing but prove you wrong, put every narrative to bed, etc and you have NOTHING more to go on other than "he holds the ball too long" and "he did this last year and that last year". Like enough is enough dude. Nobody cares to watch you come on here and bark about Cousins any chance you get. Anyone with eyes knows he's playing unreal right now and as of this year, living up to his contract. Hell even more than living up to his contract given what Kapp posted. I can tell you right now, this beloved defense you find ways to praise, isnt the reason we are 10-4 right now. You're always the first to point the finger at Cousins when we lose but when we win, you try and give credit to anyone and everyone other than the QB. Weird how that's the case....

I am sorry and I know you'll never admit it but you are WRONG about Kirk Cousins. I know you think you cant be wrong about anything because you have all the stats on playerprofiler.com and you come on here with an arrogance about you like you're a QB guru but you are wrong. And you are wrong about Rhodes and wrong about this OL's pass blocking. If you dont agree, then so be it. Agree to disagree but I know multiple people are sick of what you have brought to this board, especially as of late. Enjoy what is going on right now with this team. Stop trying to find loopholes and meaningless stats in defense to what you were wrong about and enjoy what this team is doing. Especially Kirk Cousins. You're hanging onto arguments like your life is on the line. It's okay to say you're wrong. I've done it, Kapp has done it, Charvike has done it and the list goes on. There is no shame in that.

I brought up last season's stats because you brought up points I made about last season.

So far I haven't been wrong about Cousins. I hope I am wrong, because that means he is hoisting a Lombardi for my favorite team.


This has got to stop:

Also, for like the third time: playerprofiler.com

Rhodes has fewer yards and TDs given up than Waynes. That is not a defense of Rhodes, that is an indictment on Waynes.

If you can sit here and tell me Rhodes isnt playing bad right now and for most of the season, I dont know what to tell you. This is where "using your eyes" comes into play and not just looking at a stat website.

I did not say Rhodes wasn't playing bad right now. I said Waynes having worse number than Rhodes is an indictment on Waynes. Do you not know what that word means?

You did the same thing in game chat where I said Cousins wasn't at fault for an incompletion, and you asked "how can you possibly think that was Cousins' fault?". Try reading what people actually write before becoming outraged by something they didn't actually say.

I am still waiting on that link to the stats that prove me right about Cousins having the most time in the pocket of any QB in the NFL. If you can't provide it, you should probably stop referencing it.

[Dames]

How do the Packers have the tie breaker over the 49ers when the 49ers kicked the crap out of them head to head??

They don't have the tie breaker. Packers are #2, because they are leading the division, and SF is a WC.

GB has the tie breaker over NO though, so that's why they are #2 currently.

This makes me want the NFL to adopt reseeding for the playoffs based on records/tie breakers. It's stupid that Dallas/Phi gets a higher seed when they could easily lose 3 more games than both the WC teams. If things fall right (err... wrong), we could be 12-4 and have better records than 2 other division winners... and be the WC.

[CanUDiggsIt?]

Green Bay has got to be the most mediocre, middle-of-the-road 11-3 team I have ever seen in my life. Rodgers is a shell of himself, their defense is 23rd in yards allowed. They just keep scraping past their opponents, and it is SO frustrating to see each week. I'd say the only reason they keep winning is because they are winning the turnover battle. Rodgers only has 2 INTS and their team only has 2 lost fumbles all season. Next week, we'll see just how good they are. SKOL

[PacificNorseWest]

Packers and Seattle both winning was a bummer. It looks like it'll be the 6th seed unless a team ahead of them loses 2 straight to end the season, so I'm not gonna worry about all that anymore. I just want to see them take care of business the next 2 weeks and go into that first game collectively playing their best football of the season. As a potential 12-4 wild card team, you know any team they get that game will be a very good team, so peaking at the right time for the Vikes could be the difference.

[VikingLord]

Green Bay has got to be the most mediocre, middle-of-the-road 11-3 team I have ever seen in my life. Rodgers is a shell of himself, their defense is 23rd in yards allowed. They just keep scraping past their opponents, and it is SO frustrating to see each week. I'd say the only reason they keep winning is because they are winning the turnover battle. Rodgers only has 2 INTS and their team only has 2 lost fumbles all season. Next week, we'll see just how good they are. SKOL

The keys against the Packers in this upcoming game

- Get pressure on Rodgers. Rodgers is a completely different QB when he's under pressure. Get to him early and often, make him move and make him uncomfortable, and the Packer offense will stagnate.

- Get ahead early. The Viking offense has to come out efficient and aggressive and dictate the pace of the game. The Packer defense is pretty aggressive and they take chances. To counter that, the Vikings should be looking to take some shots down the field, throw in misdirection, and go no-huddle a few times. Keep the ball moving and keep the Packers guessing (wrong), and then put the ball in the endzone.

- Avoid dumb mistakes. No turnovers in this game that hand the Packers short fields. No dumb penalties on 3rd down that keep Packer drives alive. Just play efficient, mistake-free football.

[Dames]

Packers and Seattle both winning was a bummer. It looks like it'll be the 6th seed unless a team ahead of them loses 2 straight to end the season, so I'm not gonna worry about all that anymore. I just want to see them take care of business the next 2 weeks and go into that first game collectively playing their best football of the season. As a potential 12-4 wild card team, you know any team they get that game will be a very good team, so peaking at the right time for the Vikes could be the difference.

It was a bummer that Chicago didn't show up enough. Frustrating to watch (although I didn't get to see a lot of it). It's very unlikely that GB will choke vs the Lions, so it's most likely the #6 seed for us even when we win out. But, it's more important that we go into the playoffs playing well. Home games would be really nice, but if we are playing well, we have a shot regardless.

At this point. it would take a minor miracle to even get the #5 seed, and major miracle to win the division. Pretty frustrating for a possible 12 win team, but it is what it is.

[Pondering Her Percy]

I brought up last season's stats because you brought up points I made about last season.

Ok lets be real here, you've constantly bring up his past and what he did last year and what he did in Washington when arguing Cousins.

So far I haven't been wrong about Cousins.

And there it is. Just further proves my point. But keep telling yourself that.....

Do you not know what that word means?

And there is the arrogance I'm referring to....

I am still waiting on that link to the stats that prove me right about Cousins having the most time in the pocket of any QB in the NFL. If you can't provide it, you should probably stop referencing it.

The arrogance continues here....and I dont even know what you're trying to get at? The stat that proves you right? You bring up the stat constantly to prove what then? What is the reason you CONSTANTLY bring it up?? You bring it up as a knock on Cousins and dont even try to argue that. You arent just sitting there simply making a statement. When Cousins' play is being argued, you bring that stat up. And in the end, it's means nothing. I have proved that given he has nearly an identical rating holding it longer than 2.5 seconds.

Like did anyone ever say "Kirk Cousins does NOT lead the league in time to throw according to nextgen stats"??? Not once. So what are you right about? That's like me constantly stating that, "Kirk Cousins has the 3rd best completion percentage in the NFL".....like ok? I can look at a stat sheet and make a statement too. That's not what you're doing. You and everyone else on this board knows that's not what you're doing. You try to blame the OL's pass blocking issues on Cousins "holding the ball too long", you blame any bad game Cousins has on "holding the ball too long", you generally blame losses on Cousins "holding the ball too long". But you're going to sit there and tell me to stop referencing it?? Stop fricken bringing it up!! Because he's playing JUST as good when he holds it longer than he does when he gets rid of it quick. So like I said from day 1, it's a "mirage" of a stat because it isnt effecting his play whatsoever. I have proved that with his rating numbers alone.

No less I have told you before that this scheme and how it's designed around Cousins calls for this. There is a reason they are a top team in the NFL in big plays because they get guys downfield (which takes time). I also proved that to be true by timing every big play TD we had early in the season. 95% of them were on rollouts taking 4+ seconds. Zimmer just said on Paul Allen's show that the difference with Cousins from last year to this year is that he is getting out of the pocket more and able to get into space to make big plays. Instead of teams being able to tee off on him like they did last year because Flip sat in shotgun all game and refused to run. They are getting him out of the pocket more because they know that not only is he better with time (as is any QB) but they know this OL doesnt do a very good job holding up in pass protection.

What needs to stop is you bringing up your meaningless time to throw stat every time someone defends Cousins or if we lose. You've proved nothing with it and I know for a fact you arent just throwing it out there as a general statement. You have constantly pushed your point and have accomplished nothing. When that happens, 99.9% of the time it means you've gotten nowhere with it. So like I said before, enough with the arrogance, enough with the Cousins hate, enjoy your fricken team being 10-4 and stop burning bridges with guys on this board. It's annoying and tiring.

[Pondering Her Percy]

How do the Packers have the tie breaker over the 49ers when the 49ers kicked the crap out of them head to head??

They don't have the tie breaker. Packers are #2, because they are leading the division, and SF is a WC.

GB has the tie breaker over NO though, so that's why they are #2 currently.

This makes me want the NFL to adopt reseeding for the playoffs based on records/tie breakers. It's stupid that Dallas/Phi gets a higher seed when they could easily lose 3 more games than both the WC teams. If things fall right (err... wrong), we could be 12-4 and have better records than 2 other division winners... and be the WC.

Oh yeah duh lol. I didnt pay any attention to the Seahawks now being the 1 seed.

Man GB really ticks me off. They are one of the weakest 11-3 teams I have seen in a long time. 22nd in the NFL in total offense and 23rd in the NFL in total defense and they are 11-3....I just dont get it. I'd almost rather go play GB in Lambeau in the playoffs over playing Dallas. I am not worried about our game this week with them. I've said since the beginning of the year that we win that week 16 game. They just dont impress me whatsoever and havent all year. The fact they were beat down by that LA team we just dominated says a lot about them. But of course they are going to land a good seed and Rodgers is going to be praised like he's the best QB in the history of the NFL. F### them!

[Bowhunting Viking]

Green Bay has got to be the most mediocre, middle-of-the-road 11-3 team I have ever seen in my life. Rodgers is a shell of himself, their defense is 23rd in yards allowed. They just keep scraping past their opponents, and it is SO frustrating to see each week. I'd say the only reason they keep winning is because they are winning the turnover battle. Rodgers only has 2 INTS and their team only has 2 lost fumbles all season. Next week, we'll see just how good they are. SKOL

The keys against the Packers in this upcoming game

- Get pressure on Rodgers. Rodgers is a completely different QB when he's under pressure. Get to him early and often, make him move and make him uncomfortable, and the Packer offense will stagnate.

- Get ahead early. The Viking offense has to come out efficient and aggressive and dictate the pace of the game. The Packer defense is pretty aggressive and they take chances. To counter that, the Vikings should be looking to take some shots down the field, throw in misdirection, and go no-huddle a few times. Keep the ball moving and keep the Packers guessing (wrong), and then put the ball in the endzone.

- Avoid dumb mistakes. No turnovers in this game that hand the Packers short fields. No dumb penalties on 3rd down that keep Packer drives alive. Just play efficient, mistake-free football.

1 more key to key to this game.. and actually the MOST IMPORTANT one... and I am truly baffled that you didn't include this as your number 1 key , because you always are very insightful, intelligent and knowledgeable about the Vikings , and the NFL in general.
First and foremost, the officiating crew must be investigated. In the day leading up to the game all of their, and their family members and associates, bank accounts MUST be audited for any deposits or transactions coming from the Green Bay area.
Monitor Erin's home to find any evidence of the entire officiating crew, or any member thereof, at his premises drinking his constantly mentioned Scotch.
Final check, on game day, right before the crew is ready to leave the locker room for the field, have independent investigators NOT affiliated with the NFL make each official drop their pants and search them for wearing their Packer boxers.
These steps are only a few preventative measures that can be taken to try and stop the hosing that we always seem to get during a game against the Pukers, especially one if this magnitude.
Thankfully this one is in our house and not at home of the green gift flags Lambeau. But that still doesn't take away the possibility of the screw job . As we all know, as soon as Erin throws his hands up crying for a flag , the officials suddenly turn into the Manchurian Candidate and automatically throw the yellow laundry.
Hopefully we can pound Erin right away and get a huge lead quickly that will prevent it from happening.
SKOL VIKINGS.. and screw the Pukers.