This is THE game of the season so far IMO. We have to win this one to keep pace with the packers. SF did us a solid and exposed the poser Packers team by handing them a deserved drubbing on national TV and putting them on equal footing in the win loss column. The problem is GB has a ridiculously soft schedule with the dumpster fires of the NFC East on the horizon. Outside a major meltdown or the Bears finding some pride in Lambeau, they will win out until the showdown at US Bank in week 16.
So for the VIkings to keep pace we need to go into SEA and handle Russel Wilson. No small task. SEA beat that 49ers team that just humiliated Rogers on national TV. Their defense is their weakness, not what it used to be. It should be a great matchup. Dalvin Cook should be able to run all over the place and they do not have a secondary that can match up vs. our outside WR. However, just as we pose matchup issues for that defense, so too does Russel Wilson and has escape artistry pose an issue for our suspect secondary. What a game!
This game is probably the difference between the Vikings being in the hunt for a playoff bye week and being a 6 seed. That is the nature of the NFC this year. (Darn that loss to KC!)
Let's win this one and force that game at US Bank to be for all the marbles. Then the Vikings can deliver some delicious payback just in time for the Holidays. SKOL!
Winning is not a sometime thing it is an all of the time thing - Vince Lombardi
I foresee this one being very similar to the Cowboy game a few weeks back. The only difference I see happening is Russell Wilson with the ball, 2 minutes left, game on the line, and doing something Prescott could not do: Win. We tend to struggle with mobile QBs (as most teams do) and our pass defense has been utterly awful for much of the season. I hope I am wrong, but I see this game going in Seattle's favor.
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Not many would be surprised if we lose this one, but if we can win it, it would be huge. Not only would it give us a leg up on the division, it would put us in a great spot for getting home-field advantage for at least part of the playoffs.
I think Wilson will be a problem for us, and probably the difference. The Viking's secondary is worrisome lately. Hopefully Zim has some tricks up his sleeve. His D has held Wilson in check previously, so it's not out of the question. I think our pass defense was playing better at the time though.
I'm mildly pessimistic about this one guys, but it's not a season ender if we lose. I definitely think we can and will compete though. Could be a really good game. Let's hope the Vikings come out of the bye healthy and locked in.
Playing in Seattle makes it alot tougher for us. I wanna be optimistic about this one, but honestly Wilson scares me alot. The guy throws such great deep ball, not a good thing for us lately.
The guys ability to escape pressure and keep plays alive is just maddening as an opposing fan . We will have to put pressure, heavy pressure , hit him and not let him escape. Griffin and Hunter need to bring their A game.
This game us HUGE. But.... this is the type of game and opponent that shows whether we are for real or not.
I hope we come in healthy and rested. I really hope we don't come in flat and uninspired like we have after the bye in the past.
I wanna see the heart we showed in the 2nd half of the Denver game, but want to see it in ALL 4 qtrs.
Start fast and take it to them the whole game.
What a momentum builder a win like this would provide.
Let's hope for that, and few weak teams to dig down for some pride and embarrass the Pukers. I would love to carve them up at home in a revenge game and snatch the North away from them.
Gonna be interesting. And nerve wracking!!
I just wanna die as a Super Bowl Champion Viking Fan!!
This is the game that shows what this team is made of. One of the best teams in the NFL, on Monday night, with the Vikings controlling their own destiny. They've had two weeks to prepare and should be relatively healthy.
I think if the Vikings can be competitive until the end, it will be a good sign. I'm really worried about this one. Seattle has a legit defense, their front four has the ability to stop Cook and Clowney and co. have the ability to terrorize Cousins. Puna Ford limped off the field yesterday so we'll see if he and the rest are healthy. If they are, oh man. Keep in mind what the Bears did to this offense missing key players. I'm really curious to see what game plan Stef and Kub come up with.
Defense isn't any easier and this team has struggled with mobile QBs. Seattle also has a strong run game that wears teams down. They're thin at WR so that helps some.
If I had to predict, I think it's a double digit win for Seattle. I hope this team makes me eat a lot of crow. If they show the same fire as the 2nd half of the Broncos game, they can definitely do it.
Been watching a few Seahawks game this year. I thought losing Dissly at TE really hurt the team. He was starting to have a monster year. They're not blowing people out. They're just making the plays needed to win which is scary if you ask me. Even at 9-2, I don't think they've hit their stride yet. Seems like their defense is starting to gel. Their run game is hard to stop. Carson is beastmode 2.0, Penny is a great changeup. Metcalf is turning into a nice receiver. And they have the best qb in the league.
A lot of injury "if's" in this game. Thielen, Smith, Lockett, Clowney..
Yeah, they eked out a win at the 49ers, and the Packers just got their behinds handed to them by the 49ers. Our "comparison" antennas draw the line between those and that suggests the Seahawks must be better than the Packers, maybe even considerably better.
I saw someone else refer to the Seahawks as an "elite" defense. The stats really don't bear that out. Statistically, they are a worse defense than the Vikings against both the run and the pass. Also, in terms of scoring defense, they're middle-of-the-road. Hardly a shutdown defense, much less an elite one.
Now granted, they looked good in the nationally televised games they appeared on this year against higher quality opponents, so I'm not discounting them. I'm sure if they gameplan well they can give the Vikings offense trouble, especially playing at home. But it's far from an elite defense. Both the Cowboys and the Broncos are statistically better defensively than the Seahawks. What will matter most in attacking that defense for the Vikings is going to be execution and a solid gameplan. Hopefully rested legs and healthier bodies after the bye will help too. But the key, as always, is going to come down to avoiding penalties, avoiding turnovers, and executing. If the Vikings do that, they'll be fine offensively. They'll sustain drives, score, and should at least be in the game at the end.
Offensively, the Seahawks go as Russell Wilson goes (much as the Vikings have gone with their key combo of Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins). Wilson's bread-and-butter play is avoiding the rush and heaving the ball downfield and completing those passes. He's hard to bottle up, so there is the temptation for the pass rush to lose contain and/or throw blitzers at him and he can take advantage of that more than the average NFL QB. The Seahawks run the ball well enough to keep the defense honest, which in turn keeps Wilson upright as well.
The key for the Vikings against the Seahawks is to stuff that run game, get pressure on Wilson, and then defend those throws downfield on broken plays that will inevitably come. They do that, I think they can win comfortably. Continue to give up the deep passes as they've been doing lately, and it could be a long night.
I know the Vikings don't have a great history on Monday Night as of late. They don't have a great history against the Seahawks and Wilson as of late, either. This is the perfect opportunity to get both of those trends corrected.
Yeah, there's nothing elite about Seattle's defense and it's one that Minnesota can exploit. Their pass D is well below average and it wasnt until the primetime game against SF for Clowney to actually make a game changing impact. Considering it's another primetime slot, I expect Clowney to show up. Other than that, they still have 2 SB holdovers at LB and Wagner is still one of the best in the game. Considering how alive the Vikings pass offense has become, they should be able to hit big plays down the field against that secondary. Seattle will probably do the same against Minnesota's secondary. Might be a boat race and come down to 1 or 2 3rd down/redzone stops and/or who can come up with that game changing turnover. Cook is the x-factor. They didn't have him in last years matchup and Seattle doesn't have a Cook on their offense (they do have a Russ, but we know that). I'm worried about the speed of Lockett and Metcalf against this secondary, not to mention Gordon, when you have to try and contain RW as well. I see final score total in the 60s, low 70s even.
Maybe not elite as that's likely a category for SF and New England but I feel as though Seattle is a defense that can cause our offense a lot of problems. Very similar to the Bears defense. I'm really interested in seeing what sort of adjustments and scheme the Vikings will employ in this game. I think to be successful, Cousins is going to have to take some risks. If I'm Seattle I sell out to stop the run and the screens and see if the Vikings can beat you deep.
Sea has been winning some close games. They are a good team but I think we may have a better team. There D isn't that great. Plus there O has had some not to stellar games. They could have a mediocre record very easily. But hitting the road is a tough gig. I hope that we can get our ground game going. That will help the most. It will also speed the game up. Having a week off should help us. Bottom line I was shocked when I looked at their games and they won some 1 point games and other close games. Plus they don't dominate on either end. If we don't turn the ball over or do other stupid things we have a good chance to beat them and I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
CanUDiggsIt? wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:06 pm
I foresee this one being very similar to the Cowboy game a few weeks back. The only difference I see happening is Russell Wilson with the ball, 2 minutes left, game on the line, and doing something Prescott could not do: Win. We tend to struggle with mobile QBs (as most teams do) and our pass defense has been utterly awful for much of the season. I hope I am wrong, but I see this game going in Seattle's favor.
27-24
A little history fwiw, the last time Cousins went to Seattle was Sunday
night, November 5 with a depleted redskin roster. Three of the starting offensive lineman were out and I didn’t know some of the guys playing. Seattle scored with about 2 min left to take a 14-10 lead. Cousins took over and had consecutive passes of 38 and 31 yards to Brian Quick and Josh Doctson. Kelly ran it in from the 1 and the redskins upset the Seahawks 17-14. My only reason for this post is that Cousins last visit to Seattle was a good one. I agree with the majority that this is going to be a tough game to win. I think a big factor is going to be the game plan drawn up by Zimmer and the coaching staff. It always is but because of Wilson’s broken play ability
It’s important for guys to stay at home and put maximum pressure on him. My main concern is our secondary. I hope they can hold up and play to their potential. My other concern is if they drop Cousins back in passing situations with a normal 5 or 7 step drop back, he is going to get hammered. They need play action and to get him outside of the pocket where he’s most dangerous. Hopefully, they run Cook to the outside rather than a steady diet of running off tackle if it’s not working. I hope the coaching staff can dial up some creative plays they have designed for this game. I think this game is going down to the wire.
I just don't see this one being close. I hope I am wrong but i think Wilson will absolutely destroy our secondary, which is actually pretty bad this year (not sure how this is possible with 4 1st rounders). And I think Zimmer is nervous on the road so will demand a very conservative offensive game plan.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I see this as 31-10 Seahawks.
VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:13 pm
I just don't see this one being close. I hope I am wrong but i think Wilson will absolutely destroy our secondary, which is actually pretty bad this year (not sure how this is possible with 4 1st rounders). And I think Zimmer is nervous on the road so will demand a very conservative offensive game plan.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I see this as 31-10 Seahawks.
Don't apologize for being pessimistic. Apologize when you're wrong.
Don't let this past week's gama against Philadelphia fool you regarding Seattle's defense. Philly had half its starting lineup out of the game, and they're one of the slowest, least-talented offenses in the NFL outside of Carson Wentz. And Went's played yet another horrible game.
They held San Francisco in check, but I'm sorry, SF isn't a juggernaut on offense, either. Plus, George Kittle was out that game. For the most part, this defense is average.
Offensively, they can move the ball and score, no doubt. However, whoever said Chris Carson is Beast Mode 2.0 is exaggerating in a pretty big way. He's a nice back with 800+ yards, but he's also fumbled 7 times and tends to disappear at times. Last week against Philly, he was basically a no-show. Luckily for them, Rashaad Penny had a good game and picked up half his season total in yardage. Their receivers are good, no doubt, but they're not deep, and their tight ends don't scare anybody.
As always, Russell Wilson is the key. He's what makes them so good. What scares me is that he's phenomenal outside the pocket. He isn't running as much, but he's as mobile as ever, and very dangerous when the play breaks down. We get a lot of pressure on the QB, but we're not the best at containing. A key for us will be getting pressure up the middle. If we can keep him from stepping up, that will eliminate an escape route.
Then, of course, is the real X-factor -- the crowd. I'm sure the Vikings are preparing for a lot of noise. We simply CANNOT have pre-snap penalties on offense.
If Adam Thielen is back and fully himself, we have a very good chance of putting up a lot of points. Others, notably Bisi Johnson and Irv Smith, have really stepped up in his absence, and Kyle Rudolph has gotten involved in a big way. With Thielen on the field, our running game should open back up a little bit. Dalvin Cook has a really good chance of being the difference.
This won't be easy, but I won't be surprised if we end up 9-3 after this one. That's far from a prediction. I just see a lot of reasons that we're just as good as Seattle. Home field will be hard to overcome -- a lot harder than Dallas -- so we've got to play as clean a game as possible. Huge game.
I think there are few teams (if any) that have as much talent as the Vikings. I think what frustrates me the most about this team is, as a team, they still haven't played a game this year up to their capability. I know they are 8-3, and that someone can throw some stats at me from some individual games this year, but I don't care. If the TEAM shows up and plays like they can, they'll beat Seattle.
