Pondering Her Percy wrote:Bridgewater's "game" so far has been average at best. I think that is pretty obvious. So I'm not sure what there is to argue there. He's thrown 28 TDs to 21 INTs in his first two years. It's not like he was some elite QB before this injury. He's as big of a gamble as they come right now. And don't bother using Peyton Manning and Brett Favre. Saying "well they werent that great their first couple years and then they became great". Its nothing but speculation. You're saying Teddy's got "game". I don't know what that means because IMO, 28 TDs and 21 INTs is average as it gets. I mean to throw 14 TDs in your second year as a starter in the same offense with an elite RB behind you isn't good. He was averaging 200 yards a game in his SECOND YEAR. 24 yards less than his first year. I'm not sure where you're getting your stats from. Blame the OL, blame whoever but bottom line is, thats not good.
14 TDs to 10 INTs also isn't anywhere close to bad, and considering the fact that he actually cut down on INTs from 12 to 9 in his second year, he was trending in the positive direction. For a kid in his early 20s to go 14 and 12 followed by 14 and 9, with ~3,000 yards in each season and a 65% completion rate, that's pretty damn impressive especially when you consider that he took us to the playoffs and won the division in only his second year (and most recent year) of starting. He was definitely better than average, unless you think the average QB is capable of a QB rating in the high 80s. When I think of average, I think of Christian Ponder circa 2012 and definitely not Teddy Bridgewater being efficient.
Dude again, where are you getting your stats from?? The stats support it?? Ok. Well Kirk Cousins was sacked 41 times this year. 41!!!! That is more than Sam Bradford did in 2016 behind one of the worst OL us Vikings fans have ever seen. And Cousins is a lot more mobile than Bradford is. You say Teddy's OL was SO bad and he was sacked 44 times. But Cousins was sacked 41 times this year and his line was good?
What's funny is that you use sacks as a measurement of what makes a good offensive line, there are guys on PFF who know how to crunch statistics and who've made much better rating systems for us that take things like, oh I don't know, the quality of pass rushers faced, the mobility of the QB, etc. I can even explain them in a little bit more detail if you'd like.
He "has the game"? Again, how and where do you see that?? What stats "definitely back that up"? If you want to use stats, you're beat.
Cousins TD:INT ratio is nearly 2.5 to 1. Teddy's is nearly 1 to 1.
Cousins has broke 4,000 yards the last 3 years and one year was 83 yards shy of breaking 5,000. Teddy hasnt broke 3,300.
Cousins completion percentage averages a little over 67%. Teddy is about 64.8%.
Cousins yards per completion is 7.8. Teddys is 7.25.
Cousins averages 59 20+ yard passes per year. Teddy averages about 40.
Cousins averages 10 40+ yard passes per year. Teddy averages 6.5
Cousins has had very weak defenses. Teddy's were in the top half of the league every year.
Cousins has had very weak RBs. Teddy had one of the best ever in 2015 and he still had many underwhelming performances that year.
Cousins crushes him in every statistical category pretty much. Teddy's stats work against you in an argument like this. They are average to even below average. Kirk Cousins has been very consistent over the last 3 years. He also has never had a major injury. The two aren't even close to being comparable.
You're right, Cousins has had a better career than Teddy, but I'm still wondering where you're getting that I'm comparing the two.
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