J. Kapp 11 wrote:Guys, I am so sick of the meda's Packer bias and lack of respect for the Vikings.
I just watched NFL Network's highlights of the game.
Of the 20 plays shown, 14 were Packer highlights.
Unbelievable. Are they aware the Vikings won?
To play devil's advocate: "highlights" usually show scoring plays. Absent that, they show exciting offensive plays (or turnovers) more often. The Vikings offense didn't have much in the way of highlights last night. If they have a certain time they need to fill I can understand them showing an Aaron Rodgers pass to James Jones for 20 yards vs. an Adrian Peterson four yard gain or a Teddy Bridgewater dump-off. The Vikings also got out-done on TOP and only ran 45 offensive plays (to GB's 75!). I don't know what other plays they could've shown. Maybe another Griffen sack?
I want the entire team to produce more highlight-worthy plays. The offense in particular.
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly
IF our team needed points from the Defense to beat the Pack we will DEFINITELY need points from them to beat Seattle. I am less concerned about the condition of AP (given Mckinnon/Asiata) then the mindset and ability of TEddy. He has GOT to get his act together fast. He was a liability this week, NOT an asset. I am hoping for a kick azz MN snowstorm this week. I think we can grind out a ground game far better then Seattle. That and the return of Lindval.......PLEEEEEZ.
dead_poet wrote:
To play devil's advocate: "highlights" usually show scoring plays. Absent that, they show exciting offensive plays (or turnovers) more often. The Vikings offense didn't have much in the way of highlights last night. If they have a certain time they need to fill I can understand them showing an Aaron Rodgers pass to James Jones for 20 yards vs. an Adrian Peterson four yard gain or a Teddy Bridgewater dump-off. The Vikings also got out-done on TOP and only ran 45 offensive plays (to GB's 75!). I don't know what other plays they could've shown. Maybe another Griffen sack?
I want the entire team to produce more highlight-worthy plays. The offense in particular.
It really looked to me liked the offense went into 'run out the clock mode' with 10 minutes left in the 4th. As a whole they didn't do much at all to help the D in the 2nd half. I found it depressing.
The Breeze wrote:It really looked to me liked the offense went into 'run out the clock mode' with 10 minutes left in the 4th. As a whole they didn't do much at all to help the D in the 2nd half. I found it depressing.
That's what it looked like to me, too. I also found it depressing. But it wasn't surprising. That's what we do. Of course maybe if you look at it through the lens that why would we pass it a lot when we're built to run (a better running team than passing) in a situation where running takes time off the clock and incompletions only help Green Bay it's a bit easier to swallow. Maybe.
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly
dead_poet wrote:
That's what it looked like to me, too. I also found it depressing. But it wasn't surprising. That's what we do. Of course maybe if you look at it through the lens that why would we pass it a lot when we're built to run (a better running team than passing) in a situation where running takes time off the clock and incompletions only help Green Bay it's a bit easier to swallow. Maybe.
It would be lots easier to swallow if they were actually a dominant running team and could get a first down or two. I understand that they are not as good on offense as D because they haven't focused enough building it yet. Just hard to watch, cause it feels a bit like the defense is being squandered against the better teams.
Everybody is writing off Kirk Cousins and the Redskins. He quietly, and I mean whisper quietly, put up a 260 yard a game, 4200 yard, 29 TD 100 QBR season. He got pulled in the last game after 80 percent completion rate, 176 yards and 3 TDs. That team is 5 of its last 6, won its last 4 games, looks great now. If the playoffs are about getting hot, the Redskins are sitting pretty, believe me.
I think all the talk of Seattle/Washington is moot. I really do expect both of those teams to play excellent games and the Packers and the Vikings can't underestimate it or they'll get blown out big time.
At least Seattle is a home game and there is no way we take them lightly. People do not believe in this Redskins team at all. I think the Redskins win convincingly.
Last edited by Hunter Morrow on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
dead_poet wrote:
That's what it looked like to me, too. I also found it depressing. But it wasn't surprising. That's what we do. Of course maybe if you look at it through the lens that why would we pass it a lot when we're built to run (a better running team than passing) in a situation where running takes time off the clock and incompletions only help Green Bay it's a bit easier to swallow. Maybe.
It's classic defensive-coordinator-who-becomes-a-head-coach coaching: Zimmer trusts his defense. Consequently, they play conservatively in those situations and bank on the defense to hold. The good thing is that unlike the lose-in-the-final-minute 2013 Vikings, this Vikings team actually has a defense that tends to come through for them at the end.
Hunter Morrow wrote:Everybody is writing off Kirk Cousins and the Redskins. He quietly, and I mean whisper quietly, put up a 260 yard a game, 4200 yard, 29 TD 100 QBR season. He got pulled in the last game after 80 percent completion rate, 176 yards and 3 TDs. That team is 5 of its last 6, won its last 4 games, looks great now. If the playoffs are about getting hot, the Redskins are sitting pretty, believe me.
I think all the talk of Seattle/Washington is moot. I really do expect both of those teams to play excellent games and the Packers and the Vikings can't underestimate it or they'll get blown out big time.
At least Seattle is a home game and there is no way we take them lightly. People do not believe in this Redskins team at all. I think the Redskins win convincingly.
I'm not writing off the Redskins. They're playing very well and I fully expect them to beat GB next weekend and advance to the divisional round.
Mothman wrote:
I'm not writing off the Redskins. They're playing very well and I fully expect them to beat GB next weekend and advance to the divisional round.
What an odd year for them. They did make some good moves in free agency and who would've thought the move to Cousins would've actually turned out positively? Looking back there was so much dysfunction and Cousins was playing awful. They seem to have things finally figured out. I can't recall, did they get a new GM this year?
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly
Mothman wrote:
I'm not writing off the Redskins. They're playing very well and I fully expect them to beat GB next weekend and advance to the divisional round.
Washington is definitely playing well right now but, kinda like us, they haven't beat any team of substance yet this year. Their best win was beating the Bills (8-8). Aside from that, all their victories came against 7-9 or less teams. They also put up a few more clunkers than we did in losses to the Dolphins, Giants, Cowboys (in Wash), and the Falcons.
Mothman wrote:It's classic defensive-coordinator-who-becomes-a-head-coach coaching: Zimmer trusts his defense. Consequently, they play conservatively in those situations and bank on the defense to hold. The good thing is that unlike the lose-in-the-final-minute 2013 Vikings, this Vikings team actually has a defense that tends to come through for them at the end.
You hit the nail right on the head, Jim. I think both Zimmer and Turner must have gone into a shell later in the game. But the way the D just kept hanging in there and refused to get beaten, I thought that took guts and physical skill.
The D played tough and never really folded throughout the game, including late in the 4th quarter. That's why I think the defense did so well in this important game.
dead_poet wrote:
What an odd year for them. They did make some good moves in free agency and who would've thought the move to Cousins would've actually turned out positively? Looking back there was so much dysfunction and Cousins was playing awful. They seem to have things finally figured out. I can't recall, did they get a new GM this year?
Last season...they got the former niner GM.
That's an up and coming team over there. I expect them to handle GB as well.
Yeah Zim is that kinda coach but I hope it doesnt translate into his offensive schemes. I get flash backs of the Denny Green Failures where every time it was crunch time he would go all vanilla and do nuthin but run off tackle left/right and kill our offense. Prevent defenses and overly conservative offense is a good way to never win a title......Gotta love the fake punt call, eh!!
