The Teddy Bridgewater Thread

[Raptorman]

You know for all the complaining, bickering and Monday morning quarterbacking we do, we have to keep one thing in mind.

Some people wanted the Vikings to draft Johnny Football.

Imagine the threads we would be having on him.

[Mothman]

You know for all the complaining, bickering and Monday morning quarterbacking we do, we have to keep one thing in mind.

Some people wanted the Vikings to draft Johnny Football.

Imagine the threads we would be having on him.

It would be a nightmare!

[808vikingsfan]

The Vikings scored only 20 points, and Bridgewater was partly to blame. His interception cost Minnesota at least three points. But he also completed over 70 percent of his passes (with three throwaways), took zero sacks and put the Vikings in position to score on six of the offense's eight possessions (not counting the final kneeldowns). Of his 20 completions, 10 produced first downs, and another three of the Vikings' passing plays moved the sticks via penalties.

Less Is More for Minnesota Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater

[Mothman]

Less Is More for Minnesota Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater

Thanks for the link. Bridgewater did some very good things in that game. The completions for first downs were obviously important. That said, it bugs we when writers make obvious attempts to puff up a player. In this case, saying Bridgewater "put the Vikings in position to score on six of the offense's eight possessions".

Remember how Bridgewater put the Vikings in position to score on the last of those 8 drives? Here's the entire 3 play possession:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201511290 ... playbyplay

Minnesota Vikings at 04:34
1-10-ATL 40
(4:34) 28-A.Peterson right end to ATL 36 for 4 yards (71-K.Biermann; 37-R.Allen).
Timeout #2 by ATL at 04:28.

2-6-ATL 36
(4:28) 28-A.Peterson right guard to ATL 35 for 1 yard (51-P.Wheeler).
Timeout #3 by ATL at 04:23.

3-5-ATL 35
(4:23) 28-A.Peterson left end for 35 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Well done, Teddy.

Just to be clear, that's a shot at the writer, not Bridgewater.

[Purple bruise]

By any and all accounts TB is a quality, classy young man who this team has "bought into" as their leader.
I just do not understand all of the sniping that goes on here about him. This kid is very very young and does not have all that many games under his belt. I watch him every week scrapping himself up off of the ground, taking huge hits and never once complaining. He doles out credit and kudos to all of his teammates all of the time. Zimmer absolutely "loves" him and so do I
This team is in great hands with TB as their QB and although he makes his mistakes he also has made some very great plays scrambling out of trouble and picking up crucial first downs running the ball and yes making several other good plays throwing the ball.
So you, who are his biggest naysayers, go on and bash him as much as you like but those of us that support him know what an asset he has become and will continue to be as he develops as the best QB that the Viking have had since who knows when.

[Pondering Her Percy]

By any and all accounts TB is a quality, classy young man who this team has "bought into" as their leader.
I just do not understand all of the sniping that goes on here about him. This kid is very very young and does not have all that many games under his belt. I watch him every week scrapping himself up off of the ground, taking huge hits and never once complaining. He doles out credit and kudos to all of his teammates all of the time. Zimmer absolutely "loves" him and so do I
This team is in great hands with TB as their QB and although he makes his mistakes he also has made some very great plays scrambling out of trouble and picking up crucial first downs running the ball and yes making several other good plays throwing the ball.
So you, who are his biggest naysayers, go on and bash him as much as you like but those of us that support him know what an asset he has become and will continue to be as he develops as the best QB that the Viking have had since who knows when.

I'm guessing you're referring to me but all I'm simply saying is I'd like to get a little more out of him right now. I never said he was bad, I didn't like him or his future was grim. I've just simply said that he needs to take those deep shots when they are there and get rid of the ball more at the back of his drop. That's all. The guy knows how to win and if we're going to call him a game manager, he does well at that as well. It just worries me that when AP is shut down, Teddy can't pull through. The GB game is what strikes me. Same with San Fran. He needs to take advantage of those opportunities.

I like what he brings to the table and think he will be a good QB down the road. I've always said that. It's just some of the things I'm seeing right now haven't impressed me

[shannontw]

I'm guessing you're referring to me but all I'm simply saying is I'd like to get a little more out of him right now. I never said he was bad, I didn't like him or his future was grim. I've just simply said that he needs to take those deep shots when they are there and get rid of the ball more at the back of his drop. That's all. The guy knows how to win and if we're going to call him a game manager, he does well at that as well. It just worries me that when AP is shut down, Teddy can't pull through. The GB game is what strikes me. Same with San Fran. He needs to take advantage of those opportunities.

I like what he brings to the table and think he will be a good QB down the road. I've always said that. It's just some of the things I'm seeing right now haven't impressed me

Teddy kept us in that GB game. Kyle TD pass, and the other pass to kyle that setup AP TD. We was driving great before the AP fumble. The Bears game. The throw to Diggs for TD and the throw to Charles Johnson that setup game winning FG. even the Det game on the road. Teddy kept us in that game in the beginning especiallly when the defense was letting Lions drive down the field with ease. if teddy didn't get that concussion that Rams game. The Vikings would of won that game in regulation.

[losperros]

IMO Ponder had one super big problem he could not handle the speed of the game IMO and stop looking down receivers ...

Ponder has good arm strength but his brain and skill set could handle pressure.

Ponder might have been okay on New England after three seasons learning the game ...happens to a lot of QB's I'm quessing

I remember Ponder being asked what was the most difficult part of NFL football for him. He replied, "The speed of the game."

I think you're onto something. The speed of the game got to Ponder, but so did taking ridiculously hard shots. I think some of the hard sacks and big hits were the cause of his happy feet, and I believe it damaged his psyche. Seemed like Ponder no longer played with much confidence.

[Pondering Her Percy]

I remember Ponder being asked what was the most difficult part of NFL football for him. He replied, "The speed of the game."

I think you're onto something. The speed of the game got to Ponder, but so did taking ridiculously hard shots. I think some of the hard sacks and big hits were the cause of his happy feet, and I believe it damaged his psyche. Seemed like Ponder no longer played with much confidence.

I agree the speed of the game was too much for him. I don't think he had the arm strength though. He floated a lot of his passes.

[mondry]

Ponder had all the tools to be a great QB and maybe under different circumstances it could have worked out for him (the best O-line in the NFL!) but ultimately he lacked the mental aspect to pull it off. Throughout his entire career the common theme was that "he looked good in shorts". That means pre draft workouts, at the combine, in practice, etc. Anywhere there wasn't any pressure on him he could do it all but throw him in a high pressure situation and all of his mechanics, form, progressions etc just crumbled.

Ponder wasn't a good NFL QB anyway, but our O-line exposed the worst in him.

[losperros]

Ponder had all the tools to be a great QB and maybe under different circumstances it could have worked out for him (the best O-line in the NFL!) but ultimately he lacked the mental aspect to pull it off. Throughout his entire career the common theme was that "he looked good in shorts". That means pre draft workouts, at the combine, in practice, etc. Anywhere there wasn't any pressure on him he could do it all but throw him in a high pressure situation and all of his mechanics, form, progressions etc just crumbled.

Ponder wasn't a good NFL QB anyway, but our O-line exposed the worst in him.

Yeah, I'll go along with that. Ponder did appear to show more in practice than during the regular season.

Regardless how some feel about him, I hated seeing Ponder take the pounding that he did. I cringe every time Bridgewater gets hit too. Even though Teddy did some nice scrambles in the last game, he was often under pressure. The Vikings OL hasn't given the quarterbacks much support in recent years.

[Purple bruise]

Yeah, I'll go along with that. Ponder did appear to show more in practice than during the regular season.

Regardless how some feel about him, I hated seeing Ponder take the pounding that he did. I cringe every time Bridgewater gets hit too. Even though Teddy did some nice scrambles in the last game, he was often under pressure. The Vikings OL hasn't given the quarterbacks much support in recent years.

I totally agree with you guy's assessment. I would hate to see TB take the kind of abuse Ponder took and ultimately lead to his demise.

[Purple bruise]

I'm guessing you're referring to me but all I'm simply saying is I'd like to get a little more out of him right now. I never said he was bad, I didn't like him or his future was grim. I've just simply said that he needs to take those deep shots when they are there and get rid of the ball more at the back of his drop. That's all. The guy knows how to win and if we're going to call him a game manager, he does well at that as well. It just worries me that when AP is shut down, Teddy can't pull through. The GB game is what strikes me. Same with San Fran. He needs to take advantage of those opportunities.

I like what he brings to the table and think he will be a good QB down the road. I've always said that. It's just some of the things I'm seeing right now haven't impressed me

No Mike, not directed expressly at you, although you have made many comments about his throwing ability and him hanging on to the ball too long.
There are several others here that do the same and of course they are all entitled to their own opinions but it does get tiresome for me anyway.
I guess only time will tell but I am betting TB will be a top 5 QB in this league for a long time (that is if the o-line doesn't get him killed first.

[808vikingsfan]

Since there is no "The offensive Line needs more consistency" thread, I thought I'd post this here.

What does it mean? I don't know since a lot of times PFF rankings are all over the place and the sack totals seem off, but for those that like this kind of stuff...





Offensive Line Pass Blocking Efficiency The Pro Football Focus "Pass Blocking Efficiency" rating measures pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.




Found this here

[chicagopurple]

WOW! I knew we were bad just via the sniff test and my eyeballs...I didnt dream that we were the absolute worst. How pitiful.
Until we get this fixed there is no way to really assess TB or the WR corps.....it does reinforce the fact that AP is a football God. Imagine his career if he had a real OL ......