The Teddy Bridgewater Thread

[84BreaksAnkles]

K guys, I'm not saying this as justification for Ted's Mediocre play, but it must be considered.

From my film analysis, this whole season, here are the drop counts.. (I only count balls that hit receivers in both hands)

Mike Wallace: 9 (This doesn't even include the corner post Teddy lobbed him in the redzone [only hit one hand, yet he still had a chance])
Jarius Wright: 4
Kyle Rudolph: 3
Charles Johnson: 1
Stefon Diggs: 1
Matt Asiata: 1
Mycole Pruitt: 1

I can provide film evidence for any who question these values.

[DK Sweets]

I would like to see your evidence. Two different sources on the net (here and here) show he has 3 drops, so I'm curious as to why your numbers across the board are so much higher.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I do want to see the plays before I accept those numbers.

[84BreaksAnkles]

Very well DK, I will compile a comilation .gif for you. Forgive me if this takes until tomorrow night. I give you my word that I will produce it. I will be expecting your response.

[84BreaksAnkles]

I'll just say, in the meantime...

Look at the gif I posted a few days (Maybe a week back)

Wallace had 2 drops against KC alone... so... that source is false. If anyone thinks he has only had 1 drop in 6 other games, then I say to you.. lol

But I shall still produce the compilation .gif

[losperros]

I guess I'm not surprised by Wallace's drops. He's always had that problem.

Seems like the Vikings signed Wallace to be a deep threat and stretch the field, which I think he's been doing. From what I've seen on film, Wallace is getting open but the passes aren't accurate. As a result, the plays aren't happening.

Wallace is a big play WR more than a #1 guy. I imagine both Diggs and Johnson are more reliable than Wallace but he still gets a great deal of respect for his speed and ability to get deep from opposing defenses.

[Boon]

I would like to see your evidence. Two different sources on the net (here and here) show he has 3 drops, so I'm curious as to why your numbers across the board are so much higher.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I do want to see the plays before I accept those numbers.

If you're referring to Wallace, 3 drops my ####. I personally got him for 8 because I've been keeping count but the 9th is eluding me

[Mothman]

I'll just say, in the meantime...

Look at the gif I posted a few days (Maybe a week back)

Wallace had 2 drops against KC alone... so... that source is false. If anyone thinks he has only had 1 drop in 6 other games, then I say to you.. lol

But I shall still produce the compilation .gif

I wouldn't call that first one a drop. The ball is overthrown. Wallace gets a hand on it but I think a drop needs to be a more catchable pass than that. I don't think incompletions like that are typically considered drops in the stats.

[Skoltastic_Voyage]

Comparing Teddy to Ponder is purely a productivity thing IMHO. Even Ponder had a couple of good shots like his 70y pass right out the gate. I'm starting to think the Vikings just don't know how to utilize QB's. Take a certain puker for instance, I watch him throw balls towards the ground near the goal line and watch his receivers slide for it. They probably knew to watch for such a thing but I don't see us use these "low by design" passes. Ponder and Teddy both at moments seem to miss opportunities, but even a certain puker when pressured had a hard time finding his marks. Honestly I think both Ponder and Teddy have/had more potential but there seems to be a mentality with the Vikings to make QB's feel like a second option instead of the first. If Teddy ends up a head case we know why. I would like our OC to just say to Teddy, "look kid here's the keys, don't ding her up and have fun!". He may bomb he may fly who knows, it's our play calls I have 0 faith in as I have been able to tell every run play even before they line up for the last 4+ years or so with 100% accuracy.... Don't get me started on that "prevent" D either.

[chicagopurple]

I am not concerned by his number of incompletions ( and yes, some of em are on the recievers but alot of them are just poor thows), I am concerned about how many of them are bad throws that should have been interceptions. He is playing with a very good set of receivers, just look at the pass distribution, alot of guys are making catches. He is playing with the biggest RB threat in the league. He should be doing better. The OL is a mess, again, this year. He is pretty calm when things go bad. But his mechanics have failed to improve at all this year and he is making frequent errors that BAD teams have failed to take advantage of. The rest of the season is against much better teams and I fear his flaws are about to get exposed.

[VikingLord]

While the jury is out and still will be for some time, the fact that Bridgewater has shown such marginal improvement despite the fact this is his second year, he has better receivers, and he has a running back that demands attention is real cause for concern. Bridgewater has shown what I consider to be a potentially fatal lack of deep ball awareness/touch. He had it last year, although it was less pronounced because the talent at WR didn't present him with as many obvious deep ball opportunities. Now with Wallace, Diggs, and even Wright getting open downfield, this flaw in Bridgewater's game is being repeatedly exposed. We saw it in the opener when Bridgewater had guys open deep and didn't even attempt the throw despite not being under pressure, and most recently we saw it against the Bears where Bridgewater badly missed a wide open Mike Wallace for what should have been a fairly easy score. People were all over Patterson last year when Bridgewater overthrew him (including the coach), but when I saw the replay of that play I kept thinking "even if CP ran the wrong route, he was open enough for long enough that a good QB should have been able to get it to him". But since the narrative is CP can't run routes, he got the blame and we moved on.

IIRC, this tendency to both overthrow and not throw deep was a major criticism of Bridgewater's game coming out of college. It's beginning to take on the look of an intractable issue that can't be fixed with coaching or practice.

Anyway, I hope Bridgewater figures it out because I agree with the analyst in that article that said the Vikings are winning in spite of Bridgewater more often than because of him this year. I want this team to start giving the Packers a run for their money and as things stand that is going to be very difficult if they can't start putting points up via the pass.

[CbusVikesFan]

IIRC, this tendency to both overthrow and not throw deep was a major criticism of Bridgewater's game coming out of college. It's beginning to take on the look of an intractable issue that can't be fixed with coaching or practice.

This has been my concern all along and it looks like Teddys' delivery of the ball and his accuracy is a total liability to the team. But we can still win though but the schedule only gets tougher from here on out. The Raiders are much better than anticipated, facing the Pack twice still, Arizona and Seattle, That's a lot of pressure. we will see where the Vikings land.

[PurpleKoolaid]

Its something in his throwing motion, imho. A hitch in his giddyup. I think, well more like hope, its correctable.
I think he may be doubting himself now too.
Since he and Wallace aernt clicking, I wanna see some CP out there.
He is still so young, he can still be coached AND if anyone on the Vikings staff knows the QB position, they can find the problem in his throwing motion and fix it. Teddy will then hopefully cut down on the stupid throws.

[PacificNorseWest]

Haven't delved into this thread yet, but I'm essentially posting to remind myself to give my thoughts later...I think this is an interesting and probably a rush-to-judgement (only in terms of Teddy's individual growth or lack thereof, because consistency is definitely a desire/needed) topic, but I look forward to discussing...

[halfgiz]

You compare QB stats Teddy & Cam Newton have about the same QB rating. Teddy is 83.4 - Cam 81.4
Carolina is undefeated.
We're just not quite hitting on all cylinders but were still winning.

http://www.nfl.com/players/search?categ ... erence=ALL

[Pondering Her Percy]

You compare QB stats Teddy & Cam Newton have about the same QB rating. Teddy is 83.4 - Cam 81.4
Carolina is undefeated.
We're just not quite hitting on all cylinders but were still winning.

http://www.nfl.com/players/search?categ ... erence=ALL

I think Cam is extremely overrated. He looks good because he can run the ball effectively. However, he doesnt impress me at all when it comes to throwing the ball