WR Depth Chart

[mmvikes]

Thielen is better than CP and Diggs because CP and Diggs haven't proven theirselves?

What has Thielen done in game action, again?

He hasn't been given much opportunity in game action.
Thielen amde the roster as basically a walk on which proves something to me. Do you realize how difficult that is? It is easy to make the roster as a draft pick.

[Pondering Her Percy]

And PHP, I did not mean for this to sound like an attack on you, if that is the way it came across. Just think Adam could surprise us again. Truth be told, he is the likely candidate to draw the short straw, but you never know what is going to happen when we start playing other teams in preseason, and Thielen is not one to lay back and let someone take his job.

But in what way did he really "surprise us"?? He made the team as an undrafted FA?? Well there have been a lot of players that have done that over the years. He makes a decent special teams guy but I'm talking from a WR standpoint and he has shown next to nothing. Just because he hustles doesn't mean he's going to be ahead of Diggs and CP. To me, Diggs just brings more to the table from a WR standpoint. I think that is pretty clear. I can't see Thielen being any more than a special teams guy. He's a fringe NFL player that was able to squeeze his way on a team last year. Diggs is a much more dynamic draft pick that brings WR and special teams value. Thielen only brings one of those.

Honestly, if Thielen didn't block a punt for a TD last year, I'm not sure if he would even be in consideration for special teams. At least Diggs can return punts which they don't have Thielen doing

[Purple bruise]

But in what way did he really "surprise us"?? He made the team as an undrafted FA?? Well there have been a lot of players that have done that over the years. He makes a decent special teams guy but I'm talking from a WR standpoint and he has shown next to nothing. Just because he hustles doesn't mean he's going to be ahead of Diggs and CP. To me, Diggs just brings more to the table from a WR standpoint. I think that is pretty clear. I can't see Thielen being any more than a special teams guy. He's a fringe NFL player that was able to squeeze his way on a team last year. Diggs is a much more dynamic draft pick that brings WR and special teams value. Thielen only brings one of those.

Honestly, if Thielen didn't block a punt for a TD last year, I'm not sure if he would even be in consideration for special teams. At least Diggs can return punts which they don't have Thielen doing

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Mike, I think/hope that you are underestimating him. He is 6-2 200 lbs and runs a 4.45 forty. Tom Brady would make him a Pro Bowl Receiver if he was with them IMO. Mark my words, he will be on this roster when the season starts.

[mmvikes]

But in what way did he really "surprise us"?? He made the team as an undrafted FA?? Well there have been a lot of players that have done that over the years. He makes a decent special teams guy but I'm talking from a WR standpoint and he has shown next to nothing. Just because he hustles doesn't mean he's going to be ahead of Diggs and CP. To me, Diggs just brings more to the table from a WR standpoint. I think that is pretty clear. I can't see Thielen being any more than a special teams guy. He's a fringe NFL player that was able to squeeze his way on a team last year. Diggs is a much more dynamic draft pick that brings WR and special teams value. Thielen only brings one of those.

Honestly, if Thielen didn't block a punt for a TD last year, I'm not sure if he would even be in consideration for special teams. At least Diggs can return punts which they don't have Thielen doing

A lot of UFAs make the team? It is harder to get cut as a draft pick, even as a 7th rounder, than it is to make the team as an undrafted player.

[mmvikes]

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Mike, I think/hope that you are underestimating him. He is 6-2 200 lbs and runs a 4.45 forty. Tom Brady would make him a Pro Bowl Receiver if he was with them IMO. Mark my words, he will be on this roster when the season starts.

My biggest fear is that we cut him and AAron makes him an all pro.

[Purple bruise]

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My biggest fear is that we cut him and AAron makes him an all pro.[/quote]

No he is/would be taylor made for Brady. Edelman, Amendola, and Theilan are cut out of the same fabric.

[DK Sweets]

I hope I'm not speaking out of turn for Mike, but I feel like we both made it clear when we began posting about the depth chart that our intention was not to slam Thielen. I like Thielen. I won't be surprised if he makes the roster. The point that was originally made was that it is highly unlikely that we keep 5 WRs and Thielen is one of them. I can see us keeping 5 WRs. I can see us keeping Thielen. I can't see both of those things happening unless, as I previously said, one of the other 5 WRs go down.

[jackal]

we kept six last year ...with Simpson suspended

[Raptorman]

we kept six last year ...with Simpson suspended

I think they keep 6. They did last year and I believe they will again this year.

[jackal]

I think they keep 6. They did last year and I believe they will again this year.

Yeah I consider Theilen a special teams guy(technically a wide out) I wouldn't be surprised if
we don't have seven this year. I could see us trading a player out of the group, as well.. remember
tricky Rick wants ten draft picks, every year.

[dead_poet]

Yeah I consider Theilen a special teams guy(technically a wide out) I wouldn't be surprised if
we don't have seven this year. I could see us trading a player out of the group, as well.. remember
tricky Rick wants ten draft picks, every year.

I doubt that happens (even though I'd like to get some kind of compensation). Most likely teams know that cuts will have to come and they can vie for the services of the cut player without giving up draft picks. I don't recall that many players getting traded shortly before cut deadlines.

Where are they now mildly interesting factoid: when looking for an example (Arceneaux, who was cut by the Vikings in 2011 and signed with the Redskins and Jets before ultimately playing in the CFL the last two years) has had a couple of nice seasons for the BC Lions: 112 catches, 1,790 yards and 14 TDs in two seasons.

[jackal]

I thought he played for the bears for a real brief stint, as well.

I can remember him .. I think was during the secret squriel coaching staff..

[DK Sweets]

Yeah I consider Theilen a special teams guy(technically a wide out) I wouldn't be surprised if
we don't have seven this year. I could see us trading a player out of the group, as well.. remember
tricky Rick wants ten draft picks, every year.

!!!!

This whole conversation started when you said

Theilen will make the roster by special teams and effort alone....

I don't see us keeping more than five guys ..

And now you're saying seven!? Haha gotta keep the board lively, huh?

[Pondering Her Percy]

I hope I'm not speaking out of turn for Mike, but I feel like we both made it clear when we began posting about the depth chart that our intention was not to slam Thielen. I like Thielen. I won't be surprised if he makes the roster. The point that was originally made was that it is highly unlikely that we keep 5 WRs and Thielen is one of them. I can see us keeping 5 WRs. I can see us keeping Thielen. I can't see both of those things happening unless, as I previously said, one of the other 5 WRs go down.

This is exactly what I'm saying Dakota. It's not like I don't like Thielen. I'm simply saying that he offers very little as a WR and the only reason he would stay on this roster is because of special teams. He's the equivalent of Marcus Sherels. Sherels offers pretty much nothing as a CB but is on the team strictly because of punt returning. Thielen is in the same category IMO. The only way he sees time this coming season if he makes the team is if someone in front of him goes down. Adding Wallace and now Diggs, Thielen will hardly see any time at WR.

People say he would be a good fit for Brady but if you put Brady on the Vikings, Thielen still wouldnt see the field as a WR. The only reason a guy like Edelman came along is because NE hasnt had a noteworthy WR since Moss. Brady would kill to have a WR corps of Johnson, Wallace, Wright, CP, and Diggs. No matter what way you look at it, Thielen just doesnt fit in as a WR barring injury. And as I said before, once Diggs learns this offense, I feel like he could be a dangerous weapon as well.

[Funkytown]

Adam Thielen working out with Larry Fitzgerald
 

This year, with the addition of fifth-round pick Stefon Diggs to the roster, Thielen could have a tougher time making the Vikings' roster.
 
So in addition to his typical training at ETS Sports Performance in Woodbury, Thielen decided to add some work with Fitzgerald.
 
"Any time you have an opportunity to be around a guy that works the way he does, you've got to take advantage of that," Thielen said. "I have high goals, and I'm going to continue to raise my expectations. I'm going to try and get the biggest possible role I can on this team, and whatever the coaches decide is going to be my role, I'm going to do my best with that."

 
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