Right. They haven't ignored it, they just haven't granted it. Theres a pretty big difference.PsyDanny wrote:Completely ignoring? Wouldn't that be saying nothing at all, ignoring it completely, with the ears covered going "la la la la la".
Here is a statement. The opposite of ignoring.
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If I am correct. Peterson has never publicly, or as far as I know privately asked the Vikings for a trade. If he has asked the Vikings, they have said nothing about it.dead_poet wrote:Adrian Peterson - RB - Vikings
Owner/GM Jerry Jones says it's "highly unlikely" the Cowboys trade draft picks for a player already in the league.
In other words, Jerry isn't planning to ship a high selection to Minnesota for Adrian Peterson and his odious contract. A rumor that's been persisting for months appears to be dead.
Source: Brandon George on Twitter
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Vikings GM Rick Spielman says he has "no interest" in trading Adrian Peterson.
If the Vikings are bluffing on their Peterson stance, it's as hard as hardball gets. "We can just end the Adrian Peterson stuff," Spielman said emphatically. "Our position has not changed. ... We have no interest in trading Adrian Peterson." It's a bit strange the Vikes are so adamant about keeping a 30-year-old running back due $12.75 million and coming off a season lost to suspension, but they must still really believe in his talent. What remains to be seen is how Peterson responds to the Vikings completely ignoring his request.
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He's never uttered the phrase publicly "I would like to be traded." The insinuations from his agent, presumably on his behalf, imply he would like to continue his career elsewhere. Peterson has to be aware of what his agent is saying. If Peterson had a problem with the perception/narrative he would've made it clear. He hasn't. Yet.Raptorman wrote:If I am correct. Peterson has never publicly, or as far as I know asked the Vikings for a trade. If he has asked the Vikings, they have said nothing about it.
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True. However. I think what he is doing is letting his agent put it out there to see what happens, and in the future he can say, "Well, I never asked to be traded." Playing both sides of the street. I could be wrong.dead_poet wrote: He's never uttered the phrase publicly "I would like to be traded." The insinuations from his agent, presumably on his behalf, imply he would like to continue his career elsewhere. Peterson has to be aware of what his agent is saying. If Peterson had a problem with the perception/narrative he would've made it clear. He hasn't. Yet.
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Someone got a comment from AP at the Rockets game tonight......
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Adrian Peterson - "It would be nice," to come to Dallas. "I've got family here, my dad's here. But I'm under contract, so we'll see." #NFL
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Not so fast, I think maybe half of the country doesn't object to physical punishment, but among those people, almost all would say he went too far. And as some other thread pointed out, if there was a video of Peterson doing the deed, he would probably be doing 10 years.Cliff wrote: You may be right about that overall but in Peterson's case I think it will still play out the way we're used to. Half the country doesn't even think what he did was wrong in the first place and compared to the Video of Rice punching his wife and dragging her off or someone like Darren Sharper being arrested for multiple counts of rape it is a more mild incident ... though of course that's no justification, but I think in the realm of media and the NFL, if Peterson plays a full season and does well (for any team) this issue will basically be forgotten by comparison.
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I actually brought up the video earlier in this thread too. However, I think there are a lot more people than you might think that share this thought that Ricky Williams expresses;dkoby wrote: Not so fast, I think maybe half of the country doesn't object to physical punishment, but among those people, almost all would say he went too far. And as some other thread pointed out, if there was a video of Peterson doing the deed, he would probably be doing 10 years.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... hing-wrong"I don't think Adrian did anything wrong," Williams said. "I believe how a parent disciplines his child is what he has to do. If I thought there was something wrong with what he did, then my mother would have to be put in prison. And I look at how I turned out, and she had to do everything she could to make it work."
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I'd say you're wrong. I have heard from a LOT of people between the ages of 30-50 say how this is nothing out of the usual from when they were kids.dkoby wrote:Not so fast, I think maybe half of the country doesn't object to physical punishment, but among those people, almost all would say he went too far. And as some other thread pointed out, if there was a video of Peterson doing the deed, he would probably be doing 10 years.
It's something that is becoming less and less accepted, but I don't think this is nearly as black and white as we would like.
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I am 35 years old. When I was a kid I don't even know how many wooden spoons my dad broke over my butt. I am not saying I agree with his form of punishment, I myself would never do that to my kids. But, I do believe him being charged and labeled a child abuser is wrong, honestly I don't think that it should be our business at all and if he wasn't famous it wouldn't be. Just my honest 2 cents.
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I'm hesitant to post this but I think we can have a decent dialogue about it. Honest question: the difference in public perception between what Peterson did and how the public reacted vs. the woman in Baltimore (Toya Graham) who repeatedly struck her kid (because he was somehow involved in the looting). The former is chastised. The latter the public and some media outlets are lauding as good parenting.
I assume the difference is she's a woman and not a professional jacked-up male athlete and her son is a teenager and not a four-year-old. Which brings me to the root of my question: does that matter when the question, in general, is whether physical punishment is an acceptable parenting tool?
Edit: I'm not condoning either, just trying to understand outrage vs. praise on essentially the same "tactic." Age, gender & perhaps motivation all factors?
I assume the difference is she's a woman and not a professional jacked-up male athlete and her son is a teenager and not a four-year-old. Which brings me to the root of my question: does that matter when the question, in general, is whether physical punishment is an acceptable parenting tool?
Edit: I'm not condoning either, just trying to understand outrage vs. praise on essentially the same "tactic." Age, gender & perhaps motivation all factors?
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I wouldn't be all surprised if we learned later on that, after Peterson's agent clearly conveyed the message that AP's preference is that he is traded, that the Vikings told Peterson privately that they would look into the possibility of a trade, as long as Peterson didn't demand a trade publicly. And, they would publicly state they have no plans on trading him. So, if a trade never materialized, no one loses any more face than they have already.
I think a trade is still a possibility during the draft, but only if the Vikings get a deal they are comfortable with. If it doesn't happen, Peterson plays for the full value of the contract this year.
I think a trade is still a possibility during the draft, but only if the Vikings get a deal they are comfortable with. If it doesn't happen, Peterson plays for the full value of the contract this year.
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Im hesitant to respond as well, just because its a touchy subject, and I don't want my words misunderstood. I hadn't really related the 2 incidents myself, but my thought on the matter is this. I think the people who are celebrating the woman in Baltimore getting up in her older sons grill, are mostly right wing conservative groups that feel that the black community in general doesn't discipline their children and let them run amok without any recourse. So its becoming a Feel Good Piece on social media for those people. I feel like the people that put up the most fuss about Adrien and what happened with his son are are more on the left/liberal side of the political spectrum. I don't think the liberal media is too worried about the kid in Baltimore, as he is older and can protect himself more than a 3-4 year old kid against a man who could probably put me over his knee with ease.dead_poet wrote:I'm hesitant to post this but I think we can have a decent dialogue about it. Honest question: the difference in public perception between what Peterson did and how the public reacted vs. the woman in Baltimore (Toya Graham) who repeatedly struck her kid (because he was somehow involved in the looting). The former is chastised. The latter the public and some media outlets are lauding as good parenting.
I assume the difference is she's a woman and not a professional jacked-up male athlete and her son is a teenager and not a four-year-old. Which brings me to the root of my question: does that matter when the question, in general, is whether physical punishment is an acceptable parenting tool?
Edit: I'm not condoning either, just trying to understand outrage vs. praise on essentially the same "tactic." Age, gender & perhaps motivation all factors?
Edit: So to summerize, I believe the outrage and praise for these 2 different things are coming from 2 different groups with different motivations.
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Another difference is the nature of the offense. One kid was helping to literally burn his own city to the ground, while the other kid took a toy from his brotherdead_poet wrote:I'm hesitant to post this but I think we can have a decent dialogue about it. Honest question: the difference in public perception between what Peterson did and how the public reacted vs. the woman in Baltimore (Toya Graham) who repeatedly struck her kid (because he was somehow involved in the looting). The former is chastised. The latter the public and some media outlets are lauding as good parenting.
I assume the difference is she's a woman and not a professional jacked-up male athlete and her son is a teenager and not a four-year-old. Which brings me to the root of my question: does that matter when the question, in general, is whether physical punishment is an acceptable parenting tool?
Edit: I'm not condoning either, just trying to understand outrage vs. praise on essentially the same "tactic." Age, gender & perhaps motivation all factors?
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first off the lady did not strip down her kid then whip him with an object till his scrotum was torn up.
second, IMAGINE if there had been a video of what AP did?! Sit and watch a humungous NFL RB holding down a little 5 yr old child then beat his bottom and scrotum till its torn and bleeding while the kid is squaling like a pig in a slaughterhouse....if we had actually had film of it I think the #### storm would be unimaginable. Luckily, for AP, he was not captured on tape. The reality is that if the ugliness of it was really seen It would have been impossible to minimize it as much as it has been.....AP is luck in that sense.
second, IMAGINE if there had been a video of what AP did?! Sit and watch a humungous NFL RB holding down a little 5 yr old child then beat his bottom and scrotum till its torn and bleeding while the kid is squaling like a pig in a slaughterhouse....if we had actually had film of it I think the #### storm would be unimaginable. Luckily, for AP, he was not captured on tape. The reality is that if the ugliness of it was really seen It would have been impossible to minimize it as much as it has been.....AP is luck in that sense.
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Was the pun intended?DK Sweets wrote:I don't think this is nearly as black and white as we would like.

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