Adrian Peterson Reinstated

[Mothman]

That Forbes article is a little misleading. JJ Watt has been with Tom Condon and Beg Dogra at CCA since he came into the league. CCA fired Dogra late last year. Watt had to choose between Condon or Dogra. Since Condon is the higher profile agent and CCA is an elite agency with a lot of clout it doesn't surprise me that Watt decided to stick with Condon and CCA.

The article covered that same information so I didn't find the overall content misleading but I agree the language used is a bit misleading, since it emphasizes Dogra being dumped over the fact that Watt basically had to make a choice.

[Pseudo Everything]

The article covered that same information so I didn't find the overall content misleading but I agree the language used is a bit misleading, since it emphasizes Dogra being dumped over the fact that Watt basically had to make a choice.

Hummm ... just realized ... Beg Dogra. Typo or freudian slip?

I'm sure he wouldn't mind the Vikings calling him Beg Dogra.

[soflavike]

At this point, I have to ask... If Peterson somehow still remains a Viking for this season, how is he going to perform?

Is he going to dog it, fumble, or fake injury just to show his discontent? Will he create problems in camp or in the locker room?

He really just needs to go away... the only issue is how much the Vikings can get in exchange for him.

[Mothman]

Hummm ... just realized ... Beg Dogra. Typo or freudian slip?

I'm sure he wouldn't mind the Vikings calling him Beg Dogra.

I didn't even catch that.

At this point, I have to ask... If Peterson somehow still remains a Viking for this season, how is he going to perform?

Is he going to dog it, fumble, or fake injury just to show his discontent? Will he create problems in camp or in the locker room?

I seriously doubt it. He's always been a high effort player who seemed to care about his coaches and teammates and he seems to care about his legacy as well. If his past is any indication, he'll probably be more interested in reclaiming that legacy with good performance and behavior than in further tarnishing it with the sort of childish, petulant behavior you described above.

[Norv Zimmer]

I agree, I cannot see him dogging it or playing at not full speed. If he did play at half speed I think that would just invite injury. I agree with what Moth said about his legacy, I ultimately think one of his main driving forces is to cement his name in the record books.
the more and more I read the more I think he will be a Viking next year. I don't think a team is going to give up a first and more for him this year, not with arguably the best draft running back class ever.

[MNSportsNut]

The 89% cap floor is applied to a four year period. A team could (theoretically) be well below the cap for one year and not be in violation of the CBA so long as they made it up in the other three years (without going over their specific cap allotment with carryovers).

Even if a team is found to be in violation of the cap floor the penalty is ... well ... there is no penalty really. All they have to do is pay the difference to the NFLPA. They don't lose any draft picks or have to pay any additional fines or penalties (other than the difference between what they owed and what they paid).

Thank you! Sounds like these rules are similar to our tax laws - confusing enough so no few try to understand (follow) them and with a penalty of ... give me your money.

[ChicagoViking]

That is the reverse of the Herschell Walker trade, believe it or not.

Exactly! It is finally time to exact our revenge on the Cowboys.

[mondry]

Peterson gives 110% in the freaking probowl but he's gonna tank regular season games? NO WAY!

[losperros]

I seriously doubt it. He's always been a high effort player who seemed to care about his coaches and teammates and he seems to care about his legacy as well. If his past is any indication, he'll probably be more interested in reclaiming that legacy with good performance and behavior than in further tarnishing it with the sort of childish, petulant behavior you described above.

I agree. Peterson will give a thousand percent of himself this season, regardless who he's playing for at the time.

I have never seen AD play any other way. Not as a college player and not as a pro.

[dkoby]

Some of this speculation is ridiculous. Peterson is not that complicated although he is being made out to be that way. If he actually get to the point of strapping on a Vikings helmet, our worries are over. He will never "dog" it. He's just not that type of person. If he gets on the practice field, he will follow through and play. The Vikings just have to hold firm.
Btw, there's no back in this years draft that could replace him anyways, so wishing for Gurley or Gordon to replace him this year is not good thinking. They should however draft a guy to keep ADs head on a swivel...say Colman out of Indiana. Just to keep the pressure on.
If Adrian does play for us this year, we should deal him next year no matter what. He has something to prove this year and in my eyes, he owes us a year for the last year and what he put the team through. I'd take a 4th for him next year because I'm sure he will wear himself out this year trying to prove himself.

[720pete]

Vikings want a first and a cornerback for Peterson:

http://www.dailynorseman.com/2015/4/18/ ... for-adrian

Dallas' first round pick plus Morris Claiborne for Adrian Peterson.

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[dead_poet]

Dallas' first round pick plus Morris Claiborne for Adrian Peterson.

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Claiborne is a throw away pick IMO. He's been the definition of bust to this point. Dallas' defense has been better with him on the sideline.

[720pete]

Claiborne is a throw away pick IMO. He's been the definition of bust to this point. Dallas' defense has been better with him on the sideline.

I'm not saying Claiborne is good, but if the Vikings demand a 1st rounder plus a starting CB as their starting negotiating point, then they will eventually settle with 1st rounder plus average/developmental DB.

Also a point that seems to be lost among this all. Dallas is in win-now mode with Romo aging and Jerry Jones impatient, but if they couldn't get it done with DeMarco Murray having a historically great season, then what makes them think that having AP will put them over the hump? Sure AP is better than Murray, but Dallas would have to sign some more guys in addition to just AP if they wanted to make a superbowl run, IMO.

[dead_poet]

My take on that is quite literally "so what?". I don't mean that to diminish your point, which is valid, but just to say that, as the saying goes, you can't please all of the people all of the time. No matter what the Vikings do, if they keep him and play him, they're going to take a PR hit from somewhere.

Sure, I understand that he's burned his share of bridges and inviting him back may have cost the team some fans (and sponsors). However I think there remains a difference between welcoming him back after serving whatever penalty society and the league has deemed appropriate and then giving him something he wants after what he did plus the way he's handled this, even if it's also in the team's best interest as well.

If they restructure his deal to create a better financial situation for themselves that also involves guaranteeing Peterson more money and uncritical thinkers can't see that as anything other than a concession toward Peterson and a reward for bad behavior, there's just nothing the Vikes can do about that, nor should it worry them. There are already people who think they "rewarded" him by paying him last year and that putting him on the field again under his current contract and paying him $13 million in 2015 would also be a "reward".

I think it probably is a consideration. Frankly, Peterson's perceived attitude may be one of the reasons why the Vikings haven't approached him about a restructure. Not to say they would have, as Spielman has shown he's willing to honor contracts (even high-priced ones) to players he values (Peterson is on the Jared Allen scale), but before this all happened the general sentiment was that some kind of restructure was probably in order.

I'm not sure this is exactly apples-to-apples but I'll share it anyway. In 2007 Michael Vick plead guilty to federal charges relating from dog fighting. He was suspended indefinitely by the league and the Falcons ultimately (via court action) forced him to pay back nearly $20 million of a signing bonus. They also cut him. Imagine the reaction if Vick not only started for the Falcons in 2007 or 2008 but they never asked for any money back and re-negotiated his contract to give him more guaranteed money.

I'm not sure there are many people that believe he's necessarily being rewarded by playing out his current contract when it's pretty clear by now he probably wouldn't be open to a pay cut and he's clearly far too valuable to outright cut so the options are limited as far as his contract is concerned. Clearly he's not in a Greenway situation where the Vikings really hold all the leverage and could've moved on pretty easily had Greenway not been amendable to a cut. Peterson's talent offers him considerable leverage and they wouldn't have cut him and they obviously couldn't force him to take less (though I understand the restructure could've been for more guaranteed, so I apologize if I keep defaulting to the fact that he'd automatically receive less).

Sorry if any of that came out wrong. This whole situation makes me grumpy.

I hear ya. I just don't understand why he can't come out and say he understands what he did was wrong, is seeking help and hoping to put that chapter behind him as he looks to make himself a better man and better member of the community and team (or something along those lines). The more I read about his agent the more I think he's just taking advice from the guy that has a track record of landing huge contracts and the guy is like, "Trust me, Adrian. I have you best interests in mind and this is the way we should play it" and AD trusts/believes him, hoping to land some more guaranteed cash. I can't help but think if he had any other agent this may be playing itself out much differently. Of course, maybe that's just me trying to vilify a smarmy agent while trying desperately to deflect blame and cling to the integrity of previously one of my favorite all-time Vikings.

Time will tell but if the Vikes intend to keep him for a few years, it's probably in the best interests of both parties to renegotiate the deal, which is why I won't be surprised at all if it happens.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next year, giving this whole incident another entire season to essentially be forgotten. I'd be shocked if they did something this season, though. The perception, whether justified or not, wouldn't be very positive. I think that matters to Zygi and the rest of the Vikings' brass. YMMV.

[dead_poet]

I'm not saying Claiborne is good, but if the Vikings demand a 1st rounder plus a starting CB as their starting negotiating point, then they will eventually settle with 1st rounder plus average/developmental DB.

I think that depends greatly. This would essentially be like taking Dallas' first-rounder and Chris Cook. But not just Chris Cook, an injury-prone Chris Cook coming off a ruptured left patellar tendon (and a right knee scope). He's terrible even when healthy. I'm fine with the Vikings' asking price, but Claiborne isn't worth even as a throw-away player. It wouldn't surprise me if he's out of the league in a couple of years.

Also a point that seems to be lost among this all. Dallas is in win-now mode with Romo aging and Jerry Jones impatient, but if they couldn't get it done with DeMarco Murray having a historically great season, then what makes them think that having AP will put them over the hump? Sure AP is better than Murray, but Dallas would have to sign some more guys in addition to just AP if they wanted to make a superbowl run, IMO.

Adrian Peterson running behind that offensive line would be borderline unfair/Bo Jackson Tecmo Super Bowl-like. I absolutely think the Cowboys would be legit contenders with just him alone. Obviously they'd draft a few other players, particularly on defense. But if they're going to spend their first-rounder on Gurley or Gorden, why not just give that pick up for Peterson, who's measurably better right now?