This could be the answer to the Vike's guard problem if they could afford him, that would be outstanding

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Really like the way Peters wraps up on every tackle, none of the BS chip away shots. He is always moving in that highlight video, always closing on the ball carrier/receiver/qb.fiestavike wrote:http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Viki ... ters022315
I don't see him being brought in to compete at OLB at a beefed up 230lbs. Evidently he ran a 40 as low as 4.54, 4.6 at his pro day when he was at 215.
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Can't hurt to give him a try opposite Harrison and see how he can do.
Just to play devil's advocate here, the Vikings ranked 7th in passing yards/game allowed last season (3 yards/game from being in the top 5). They didn't get shredded as they have in years' past. However I do agree about needing at least one other corner, but the pass defense is already trending up. I do wonder what another year in the system will do for Captain and Robinson. I'm not yet convinced they're both liabilities.Dinero_Jones wrote:We all know our secondary will continue to get shredded if we don’t upgrade at the db positions.
Let's throw all the stats out the window. When watching the Vikes play how often do expect us to get critical 3rd & 4th down stops?dead_poet wrote: Just to play devil's advocate here, the Vikings ranked 7th in passing yards/game allowed last season (3 yards/game from being in the top 5). They didn't get shredded as they have in years' past. However I do agree about needing at least one other corner, but the pass defense is already trending up. I do wonder what another year in the system will do for Captain and Robinson. I'm not yet convinced they're both liabilities.
I agree, I really don't think the secondary is that terrible. Cpt had a bad year, Robinson played better than anyone expected. I would like to see them pick up a cornerback or safety in free agency and maybe take a stab in the later rounds at a DB prospect.dead_poet wrote: Just to play devil's advocate here, the Vikings ranked 7th in passing yards/game allowed last season (3 yards/game from being in the top 5). They didn't get shredded as they have in years' past. However I do agree about needing at least one other corner, but the pass defense is already trending up. I do wonder what another year in the system will do for Captain and Robinson. I'm not yet convinced they're both liabilities.
I don't see why we have to throw stats out to make that pointDinero_Jones wrote: Let's throw all the stats out the window. When watching the Vikes play how often do expect us to get critical 3rd & 4th down stops?
To put that into perspective, the Bills and Colts ranked first in 3rd down percentage on defense. Both allowed opponents to convert 33% of the time.Cliff wrote:I don't see why we have to throw stats out to make that point
The defense ranked 20th overall in 3rd down conversion rate on defense allowing 42% of 3rd downs to be converted.
Zimmer will find guys to upgrade the pass defense. I'm not against taking a guy like Waynes early, but I am confident that our pass defense will be even better next year with whatever veterans we sign and depth we draft, just as a result of Zimmer.Mothman wrote: To put that into perspective, the Bills and Colts ranked first in 3rd down percentage on defense. Both allowed opponents to convert 33% of the time.
Atlanta was at the bottom in that category, allowing a conversion rate of 47%.
According to this site (which I just stumbled across), the 2014 Vikings allowed an average of 11.8 passing first downs per game in 2014, which was 10th best in the league.
I lack that kind of faith. I think he'll get the most out of the talent he has available but I'm not willing to assume Zimmer alone = steady improvement. Their success still seems fragile to me, just as it was from 2011-2013. A couple of key injuries in the secondary could seriously reduce their overall effectiveness so I believe they need to keep upgrading the talent.fiestavike wrote:Zimmer will find guys to upgrade the pass defense. I'm not against taking a guy like Waynes early, but I am confident that our pass defense will be even better next year with whatever veterans we sign and depth we draft, just as a result of Zimmer.
The point I am trying to make is two fold. One, that Zimmer will recognize and address the weaknesses of the personnel (that he will get players who can do better), and two, that he will then get the most out of those players. The improvement of the secondary last year illustrates the second point. I think this offseason will illustrate the first.Mothman wrote: I lack that kind of faith. I think he'll get the most out of the talent he has available but I'm not willing to assume Zimmer alone = steady improvement. Their success still seems fragile to me, just as it was from 2011-2013. A couple of key injuries in the secondary could seriously reduce their overall effectiveness so I believe they need to keep upgrading the talent.
Mothman wrote: I lack that kind of faith. I think he'll get the most out of the talent he has available but I'm not willing to assume Zimmer alone = steady improvement. Their success still seems fragile to me, just as it was from 2011-2013. A couple of key injuries in the secondary could seriously reduce their overall effectiveness so I believe they need to keep upgrading the talent.
Ah, I understand. Thanks for the clarification. I do have faith in his ability to recognize and coach DB talent so we're basically on the same page..fiestavike wrote:The point I am trying to make is two fold. One, that Zimmer will recognize and address the weaknesses of the personnel (that he will get players who can do better), and two, that he will then get the most out of those players. The improvement of the secondary last year illustrates the second point. I think this offseason will illustrate the first.
I don't want to give the impression that I believe he'll turn anyone at all into a great player.