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Who's "we"? I trust you noticed that there is a player on the Vikings' offense who (1) isn't playing tonight but (2) hopefully will play next week against Detroit. Perhaps "we" will play better on offense in light of that player's presence?Wild1210 wrote:Maybe after the lions ...if we can't score on greenbay D I can't see us winning against the lions
Except you're talking they as in Zimmer and Norv. I'm talking what Nantz got from Teddy himself. I've been there...He can play.Purple Reign wrote: Yeah, and they said whether he started would be a game time decision when in reality they had already made that decision on Tuesday. Don't believe everything you hear about injuries.
He could play. But if he did, the risk of reinjury is there. Just like AD in the Redskins game. He wouldn't be able to run. He'd be risking not only reinjury, but a possible injury to another area when he favors that leg or doesn't make that cut. It wasn't worth playing him....PacificNorseWest wrote: Except you're talking they as in Zimmer and Norv. I'm talking what Nantz got from Teddy himself. I've been there...He can play.
Whatever. No point right now.
So which is more likely - that the line played a single good game against the Falcons when Bridgewater started, or that Bridgewater's play suddenly made that same line look good?Mothman wrote:What's getting lost in another non-stop #### fest about Christian Ponder is that for the third time this season, the offensive line is playing poorly. They are playing as poorly tonight as they played well on Sunday. Poor blitz pick-up, ineffective run-blocking, inadequate pass protection... if we don't see a string of seriously good, consistent performances from the line before this season is over, I think Zimmer, Spielman and company need to seriously consider dismantling that line and rebuilding a significant portion of it.
I'm going to say the same thing about Turner's game plan tonight too. He did a great job last week, setting Bridgewater up with an ideal game plan for a rookie making his first start. Tonight, Green Bay obviously studied film of Sunday's game, decided to take away the quick-hitting stuff that worked for Bridgewater and Norv doesn't seem to have a Plan B, or any idea how to get the ball to his playmakers. Where's the spread he used last week? Where's Patterson? Jennings? Did he think they were going to beat GB with Asiata and Ellison and keep Ponder in a clean pocket all night?
I agree that the line is a huge issue. But it is very clear that the team plays 110% for Teddy, 75% for Cassel, and 25% for Ponder.Mothman wrote:What's getting lost in another non-stop #### fest about Christian Ponder is that for the third time this season, the offensive line is playing poorly. They are playing as poorly tonight as they played well on Sunday. Poor blitz pick-up, ineffective run-blocking, inadequate pass protection... if we don't see a string of seriously good, consistent performances from the line before this season is over, I think Zimmer, Spielman and company need to seriously consider dismantling that line and rebuilding a significant portion of it.
I'm going to say the same thing about Turner's game plan tonight too. He did a great job last week, setting Bridgewater up with an ideal game plan for a rookie making his first start. Tonight, Green Bay obviously studied film of Sunday's game, decided to take away the quick-hitting stuff that worked for Bridgewater and Norv doesn't seem to have a Plan B, or any idea how to get the ball to his playmakers. Where's the spread he used last week? Where's Patterson? Jennings? Did he think they were going to beat GB with Asiata and Ellison and keep Ponder in a clean pocket all night?
Well, except for the 21 points scored. I have full confidence that the odds are better that Green Bay will score more on offense the rest of the game than they will on defense.SP1966 wrote: The only positives in this game have come while the defense is on the field!
This ^^^^ exactly! Teddy makes quick decisions and gets rid of the ball. Ponder ponders his options until he has none.Rieux wrote:The OL isn't setting the world on fire or anything, but Ponder is getting enough time to throw the ball. His indecisiveness is contributing very seriously to the protection problems.