Purple Reign wrote:
Didn't think it was that difficult to understand - his fist was closed rather than open when he shoved Blanton. Still just a shove - not a punch.
DavidKarki wrote:
And Brees doesn't know jack about pro wrestling. Hulk Hogan never had a suplex...or most other moves.
He had a punch, a clothesline, and his finisher (bounce guy off ropes, boot to face; bounce off ropes, leg drop; pin for three-count; 10-minutes pose and flex to music). Nothing more.
But hey, Brees has a lifetime pass from everything including bounty scandals due to Katrina....
What I wouldn't pay to see someone use one of Hogan's moves on Drew for real... Especially the flex to music part...
Wow, there's an awful lot of angst about a call that didn't exactly determine the outcome of the game. I thought Munnerlyn clearly committed an unnecessary roughness penalty on that sack but regardless of the validity of the call, even after the penalty yards were assessed, the Saints still had the ball on their side of the field, not in scoring position. The defense needed to step up and stop them again and instead, they allowed NO to drive for a TD.
This is still a team that has a lack of talent at some key positions. Add in a new scheme and the margin for error is pretty much near zero. The team needs to play almost mistake-free football to win consistently this season. That is a tall order for a team loaded with talent, much less one that is struggling. Considering the mistakes and breakdowns and off-field issues, I still like what I see from this team. This is not a group that merely rolls over. They will go down swinging, which is a big change from the past few seasons. Any port in a storm, or silver linings, I guess.
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Think our OL would like to go back to the zone scheme, rather than the man scheme that Norv brought with him. Seems like we've been using primarily a zone blocking scheme since the Denny Green era. The advantage of maintaining continuity on our OL is somewhat neutered by having to switch to a man scheme.
Mothman wrote:Wow, there's an awful lot of angst about a call that didn't exactly determine the outcome of the game. I thought Munnerlyn clearly committed an unnecessary roughness penalty on that sack but regardless of the validity of the call, even after the penalty yards were assessed, the Saints still had the ball on their side of the field, not in scoring position. The defense needed to step up and stop them again and instead, they allowed NO to drive for a TD.
It was a BS call that you know would not be called if it was a Viking QB. Plus, Brees should have been called for something after the play. It was a failure of Katrina-sized proportions. Oops did I Say that? The only reason the call was made was who it was against. PAthetic. Did we lose the game because of it? Maybe not... but it was the wrong call at a very big moment of the game.
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PurpleMustReign wrote:
It was a BS call that you know would not be called if it was a Viking QB. Plus, Brees should have been called for something after the play. It was a failure of Katrina-sized proportions. Oops did I Say that? The only reason the call was made was who it was against. PAthetic. Did we lose the game because of it? Maybe not... but it was the wrong call at a very big moment of the game.
Agreed. We would have gotten the ball around the 40-50 and been down by 4 instead of 11. The chances of us scoring a TD or FG on that drive was pretty likely.
People are saying, "It doesn't matter they still scored and we couldn't stop them". Yes it does matter because they would have never gotten that TD. They would've punted the football
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PurpleMustReign wrote:It was a BS call that you know would not be called if it was a Viking QB. Plus, Brees should have been called for something after the play. It was a failure of Katrina-sized proportions. Oops did I Say that? The only reason the call was made was who it was against. PAthetic. Did we lose the game because of it? Maybe not... but it was the wrong call at a very big moment of the game.
I think they would have called that penalty no matter what jersey the QB was wearing. Munnerlyn was excessive and body slamming a QB like that simply isn't supposed to be allowed. That's exactly the kind of play on which "unnecessary roughness" is supposed to be called.
UNNECESSARY ACTS AGAINST PASSER
A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a
passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the
ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation provided
for in (1) above. When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after
throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down and land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap
up or cradle the passer with the defensive player’s arms.
It was a legit call.
Still didn't like Brees' reaction to it. Looked like he was trying to make it look worse than it was ... and ... he came off looking like a pansy for doing it.
I seem to recall a play last season, almost exactly like that "suplex-sack" that was also flagged. Am I imagining that? I scoffed a little at the time, but rewatching it, it was definitely going to get a flag, and rightfully so.
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Section 3 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Article 1: Prohibited Acts. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct. This applies to any act which is contrary to the
generally understood principles of sportsmanship. Such acts specifically include, among others: (a) Throwing a punch, or a forearm, or kicking at an opponent, even though no contact is made.
Pseudo Everything wrote:This just in ... Josh Robinson still isn't very good.
A lot of people will point to the Munnerlyn roughing-the-passer call as the pivotal play in the game, but I thought an equally important play was on the Saints first series of the 3rd quarter (after we had a nice opening drive with a FG to cut the lead to 4). We had the Saints in a 3rd and 16 on their own 14 yard line and Brees converts an 18 yard pass to Cooks for a first down. Who was covering Cooks? Josh Robinson who got turned around leaving Cooks wide open.
and they only rushed 4 on that play. whenever the vikes rushed 4, Brees tore us apart.
To Pondering - I agree 100%. The call was ridiculous, and Brees is a pathetic hypocrite. Plays on the dirtiest team in the NFL but cries whenever he is touched. And the comments he made about Hulk Hogan are just ridiculous. He is pathetic, he should be wearing flags on his hips in the next game.
frosted21 wrote:Section 3 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Article 1: Prohibited Acts. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct. This applies to any act which is contrary to the
generally understood principles of sportsmanship. Such acts specifically include, among others: (a) Throwing a punch, or a forearm, or kicking at an opponent, even though no contact is made.
VikingPaul73 wrote:
As Crax mentioned in another thread, if Suh or Dez Bryant did that...instant flag. Instant. Suh probably would have been ejected.
But the chosen boy wonder doesn't even get a flag. NFL is a joke.
This I can understand. But it is not just Brees. Every QB gets this double standard treatment.
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