Is there a possibility of an AD trade?

[PurpleKoolaid]

Im not sure if this deserves it own thread, but im sure we all know AD is going to be gone (and the sooner the better for me), what are the possibilities some team, wanting to make the SB this year, will trade for him now? Or are the chances the Wilf's just release him, or the NFL suspends him for the year? Im hoping they take their emotions out of it, and trade him iof its at all possible. Hopefully with someone to replace Johnson.

[84BreaksAnkles]

Dude...... *sigh

Yeah, it would be nice at this point..
No team in their right mind would trade anything of value for a guy who faces a possible 2-10 year sentence if convicted- All signs point to conviction in this PC-happy world we live in.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but AD is gone from our team forever. What compensation will we get exactly? 0-none-zip-nilch-nada

Oh, that is unless you are counting the 10,000+ yds, 91 TD's, dozens on NFL & Viking's Franchise records, 5.0 Career Average YPC, and the opportunity to watch (what MANY view as) the best pure Runner to ever play the game play for our purple for 7 years..

But ya, in terms of pieces to get back, draft picks, etc------------ fuhgettabowtit

[Demi]

Seems like the only way would be to wait it out, and do like they did with Percy. Maybe he is reinstated next off season and they get whatever they can. But with his huge cap number hard to believe a team would bite. I think if they played it out some team would give something at some point. But unlikely it would be worth it to even try...

[PsyDanny]

Seems like the only way would be to wait it out, and do like they did with Percy. Maybe he is reinstated next off season and they get whatever they can. But with his huge cap number hard to believe a team would bite. I think if they played it out some team would give something at some point. But unlikely it would be worth it to even try...

Another year older.

Essentially a year out of play (rusty)

(sigh!)

[Laserman]

I doubt even the Vikings would want him just on a football related sense. Past 30 years old in a passing NFL, who wants to pay a RB that kind of money? I think AD is done anyway you look at it. fine with me, time to move on and spend that $$ elsewhere

[Wild1210]

He won't serve time ...first time offender probation , community service , pay a fine , iv Sean worst in are court system where father set there kids on fire and not dew any time

[juventus1]

At this point, before his arraignment (and any other major news) it's really hard to say anything definitively.

The court of public opinion (which of course influences the NFL's position, now more than ever) has come out harder than most expected, so that may play a huge factor; then again we've seen that public/media outbursts with very emotional based reactions can also be fickle over time.

I guess my point is it'll be interesting to wait and see what happens.

And no, no point in a trade; any compensation we would get for trading Peterson would be negligible compared to having Peterson back. I would guess if he's in it for the long haul the Vikes would get more relief from his salary being cut than anything else.

[Leafman]

There is an important trading concept in investing known as the "trailing stop". As an investment appreciates, you continually raise the level at which you will liquidate the asset to protect your gains ... it matters not if you still like the investment to gain even more in value, the trailing stop is a hard level which, when triggered, preserves your capital just in case something crazy happens and the asset loses all of its gains or even most of its intrinsic value, turning it into a loser.

The trailing stop on AP was hit last year ... right before an NFL running back hits 30 years old. That was the time to sell, even though most of us loved him and thought he would continue to produce at a high level for several more years due to his genetic freakishness. In successful investing, you have to accept that the time to sell is when everyone loves what you own and calls you crazy for wanting to sell it.

Well, the investment that is AP is now non-performing junk. He is valueless. Lesson learned. This coaching staff needs a truly clean start, and to do that they need to cut him and move on to rebuilding this franchise around Bridgewater and the promising Defensive Line.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

[J. Kapp 11]

There is an important trading concept in investing known as the "trailing stop". As an investment appreciates, you continually raise the level at which you will liquidate the asset to protect your gains ... it matters not if you still like the investment to gain even more in value, the trailing stop is a hard level which, when triggered, preserves your capital just in case something crazy happens and the asset loses all of its gains or even most of its intrinsic value, turning it into a loser.

The trailing stop on AP was hit last year ... right before an NFL running back hits 30 years old. That was the time to sell, even though most of us loved him and thought he would continue to produce at a high level for several more years due to his genetic freakishness. In successful investing, you have to accept that the time to sell is when everyone loves what you own and calls you crazy for wanting to sell it.

Well, the investment that is AP is now non-performing junk. He is valueless. Lesson learned. This coaching staff needs a truly clean start, and to do that they need to cut him and move on to rebuilding this franchise around Bridgewater and the promising Defensive Line.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

Great point. Agree totally, including the part about rebuilding.

That being said, I doubt AP's career is over. I think it's likely that a plea agreement and settlement will be reached, and I'd be surprised if it weren't very soon. He'll agree to a lesser non-felony charge, the boy's mom will get rich, and AP will be back on the field, likely with the Vikings. Call me cynical, but if the Vikings had any designs on cutting him, I think they already would have done it. Something tells me that Zygi Wilf has no desire to pay a guy a million dollars a week just to cut him later.

[Leafman]

Great point. Agree totally, including the part about rebuilding.

That being said, I doubt AP's career is over. I think it's likely that a plea agreement and settlement will be reached, and I'd be surprised if it weren't very soon. He'll agree to a lesser non-felony charge, the boy's mom will get rich, and AP will be back on the field, likely with the Vikings. Call me cynical, but if the Vikings had any designs on cutting him, I think they already would have done it. Something tells me that Zygi Wilf has no desire to pay a guy a million dollars a week just to cut him later.

If you are correct, then we will get a chance to trade him for some value (I vote draft picks) this offseason, and that is the best possible outcome for the franchise.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

[PacificNorseWest]

There's always a possibility, but given the state of the NFL to start this season, I think it's more of a probability that he gets released.

I'm still not even convinced he misses the entire 2014 season. Maybe after this hearing in early October I will be, but all it takes is for the opportunity to negotiate a plea deal.

[Mothman]

There is an important trading concept in investing known as the "trailing stop". As an investment appreciates, you continually raise the level at which you will liquidate the asset to protect your gains ... it matters not if you still like the investment to gain even more in value, the trailing stop is a hard level which, when triggered, preserves your capital just in case something crazy happens and the asset loses all of its gains or even most of its intrinsic value, turning it into a loser.

The trailing stop on AP was hit last year ... right before an NFL running back hits 30 years old. That was the time to sell, even though most of us loved him and thought he would continue to produce at a high level for several more years due to his genetic freakishness. In successful investing, you have to accept that the time to sell is when everyone loves what you own and calls you crazy for wanting to sell it.

Well, the investment that is AP is now non-performing junk. He is valueless. Lesson learned. This coaching staff needs a truly clean start, and to do that they need to cut him and move on to rebuilding this franchise around Bridgewater and the promising Defensive Line.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

I see your point, and it's interesting, but since football isn't investing, I'm not sure I agree with it. I certainly don't think the lesson learned here should be to always trade a running back when he becomes 29 years old, regardless of how he's performing or how many more good years the team feels he has left in him. If the Lions had traded Barry Sanders when he hit that same "trailing stop", they would have missed out on a 2000+ yard season by a Hall of Fame-caliber that helped propel them into the postseason.

There's always a possibility, but given the state of the NFL to start this season, I think it's more of a probability that he gets released.

I'm still not even convinced he misses the entire 2014 season. Maybe after this hearing in early October I will be, but all it takes is for the opportunity to negotiate a plea deal.

Well said. We're a week into this situation. Who knows where it's going to go or how it will turn out?

[losperros]

That being said, I doubt AP's career is over. I think it's likely that a plea agreement and settlement will be reached, and I'd be surprised if it weren't very soon. He'll agree to a lesser non-felony charge, the boy's mom will get rich, and AP will be back on the field, likely with the Vikings. Call me cynical, but if the Vikings had any designs on cutting him, I think they already would have done it. Something tells me that Zygi Wilf has no desire to pay a guy a million dollars a week just to cut him later.

I think the plea bargain theory is likely. Just wondering but even if AD does reach a plea bargain settlement, doesn't the NFL still have some say? Given the present negative climate surrounding the NFL, I think it's likely that the league would ban Peterson for the rest of the season.

[PacificNorseWest]

I think the plea bargain theory is likely. Just wondering but even if AD does reach a plea bargain settlement, doesn't the NFL still have some say? Given the present negative climate surrounding the NFL, I think it's likely that the league would ban Peterson for the rest of the season.

Well, not if they want to stick to their guns. First offense for DV is only 6 games. At this point, the NFL can't be taken seriously if they go ahead and then suspend him the rest of the season. Ray Rice's appeal will tell us a lot about that coming up soon anyway.

A reason to be optimistic is that if a deal is cut around the time of his initial hearin, AP would have already missed about 3 or 4 games, so he would theoretically only be out for 2 more. That's if it happens nice and clean, but there's still room for optimism for those that want him back on the field this season.

[Leafman]

I see your point, and it's interesting, but since football isn't investing, I'm not sure I agree with it. I certainly don't think the lesson learned here should be to always trade a running back when he becomes 29 years old, regardless of how he's performing or how many more good years the team feels he has left in him. If the Lions had traded Barry Sanders when he hit that same "trailing stop", they would have missed out on a 2000+ yard season by a Hall of Fame-caliber that helped propel them into the postseason.

EVERYTHING is investing. Everything has relative value that appreciates and depreciates. And the 32 NFL owners and 32 NFL GMs would unanimously disagree with you that football isn't investing. It is all about earning more than you spend.

Not saying you always have to trade a 29-year-old running back, and for every Barry Sanders, there are 2 or 3 backs who peaked in their late 20s while earning a fat paycheck well into their early 30s with steeply declining productivity. The reason last season was a trailing stop for the Vikings is that they are likely not a Super Bowl contender for the next couple years ... Cassel is certainly not a Super Bowl QB, and Bridgewater does not have the luxury of an elite defense like Flacco, Kaepernick or Wilson had to make it to the dance early on. So by the time we *might* be ready for a Super Bowl, AP is in the twilight of the Running Back lifespan. I'd have preferred to get some value for him to build for that day, while there was still value to be had, especially when running backs are a much less valuable commodity than they were when we drafted him.

Maybe we'll get lucky and the plea bargain scenario will work out and we can still get value for him at some point over the next year.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN