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indianation65 wrote:It just appeared to me that PHarvin "flew" across the screen. When healthy, he's a heck of a player. Correct, he did nothing to help Seattle "get" to the SB, but once in, his legs and hips gained some important yards. Being happy for him or angry with him is natural for Vikings fans. All in all, we all want someone, anyone, to help get the Vikes back in the big game.

Addendum: A previous comment stated that the Broncos looked like the Vikings in their Super Bowls, a team that just didn't show up. I was just a little, little kid back then and don't actually remember much more than the big Oakland plays. Did the Vikings really look as abysmal as all that?
Their offense never played particularly well in any of those Super Bowl games. They had a legitimate chance to beat the Steelers but I wouldn't say they were very close in the other Super Bowls they lost. i don't know if they looked as abysmal as Denver did yesterday but aside from the Pittsburgh game, they sure didn't look very good.
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GBFavreFan wrote: and why did he force a trade? Something about not wanting to waste his time with the current QB, what was his name? Oh, yes Christian Ponder. And who was actually right in that exchange? Christian Ponder is 3 months from being officially replaced and Percy Harvin just won a SB with Russell Wilson. Hate him if you must, but he was 100% right.
Harvin wasn't right about jack s***. First and foremost he could have got traded anywhere, it's just the fact that Seattle offered a 1st rounder. There was no guarantee he was going to a championship contending team before the trade. Secondly, Harvin won a super bowl thanks to his teammates. While he's at home majority of the season, sitting on his bum, his teammates are playing their butts off to get to where they did last night. He is LUCKY and BLESSED that Pete Carrol had faith in him to put in him the game despite not really being with the offense much this year and getting to execute the playbook.
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King James wrote:Harvin wasn't right about jack s***. First and foremost he could have got traded anywhere, it's just the fact that Seattle offered a 1st rounder. There was no guarantee he was going to a championship contending team before the trade. Secondly, Harvin won a super bowl thanks to his teammates. While he's at home majority of the season, sitting on his bum, his teammates are playing their butts off to get to where they did last night. He is LUCKY and BLESSED that Pete Carrol had faith in him to put in him the game despite not really being with the offense much this year and getting to execute the playbook.

Indeed, he was very lucky. As you said, Harvin wasn't "right". He lucked out and was traded to Seattle instead of some dysfunctional football wasteland like Oakland or Cleveland. If I recall correctly, there was never anything more than conjecture about his reasons for wanting out of Minnesota but I understand why Ponder-haters naturally took him up as a champion of their cause. Even if that was the reason he wanted out of Minnesota, at best doesn't that mean he was an unsupportive teammate and a distraction during a season in which his team had a shot to make (and made) the playoffs? That's "right"?
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King James wrote: He is LUCKY and BLESSED that Pete Carrol had faith in him to put in him the game despite not really being with the offense much this year and getting to execute the playbook.
That's just silly. Everyone knows what he can do and Pete probably had a chance to catch him in practice once or twice, being the HC and all. There was no luck involved. Its not like it was a gamble letting a healthy guy named Percy Harvin play in a super bowl. It was a can't-miss, no-brainer.
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Raptorman wrote: Get one thing straight. Harvin gave up on the Vikings. Not the other way around. Harvin forced his way out. Don't re-write history.
I like Harvin, and love the Seahawks, but Harvin did give up on the Vikes. After a while, he just wanted out. Even after Rickie said he wasn't going anywhere. But PH did what was asked of him while he was here. As usual Musgrave and Fraizer had NO CLUE how to get the most out of him, just like CP. But that's history. I just find all the PH hate funny. We got paid a ransom for him, he did great when he was here, and some people still going to hate.
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Webbfann wrote: That's just silly. Everyone knows what he can do and Pete probably had a chance to catch him in practice once or twice, being the HC and all. There was no luck involved. Its not like it was a gamble letting a healthy guy named Percy Harvin play in a super bowl. It was a can't-miss, no-brainer.
So the fact that he got traded to a good team, missed most of the season but still got to the super bowl, and got to play in the super bowl despite the lack of reps and playing time he's gotten all year isn't lucky. Just like here in Minnesota, we got to the playoffs without him. This time he has their #1 ranked defense to thank, and the offense to thank for carrying the load without him on it for majority of the year. But that is not lucky? :roll:
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King James wrote: So the fact that he got traded to a good team, missed most of the season but still got to the super bowl, and got to play in the super bowl despite the lack of reps and playing time he's gotten all year isn't lucky. Just like here in Minnesota, we got to the playoffs without him. This time he has their #1 ranked defense to thank, and the offense to thank for carrying the load without him on it for majority of the year. But that is not lucky? :roll:
Carroll and the GM know talent. That's why they spent so much on PH, and Rice. They can also, unlike us, get talent late in drafts. PH played a good game in the SB. Get over it. Wanna bet he gets another? Heath also got one, are you happy for him at least? Just a ST guy.
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PurpleKoolaid wrote:Carroll and the GM know talent. That's why they spent so much on PH, and Rice. They can also, unlike us, get talent late in drafts. PH played a good game in the SB. Get over it. Wanna bet he gets another? Heath also got one, are you happy for him at least? Just a ST guy.
You completely avoided countering his point..

That said, I personally am fine with Harvin winning a Super Bowl. Good for him. He's an incredible talent.

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PurpleKoolaid wrote: I like Harvin, and love the Seahawks, but Harvin did give up on the Vikes. After a while, he just wanted out. Even after Rickie said he wasn't going anywhere. But PH did what was asked of him while he was here. As usual Musgrave and Fraizer had NO CLUE how to get the most out of him, just like CP. But that's history. I just find all the PH hate funny. We got paid a ransom for him, he did great when he was here, and some people still going to hate.
Harvin was leading the league in receiving when he got hurt. He was used in the slot, as a running back rushing the football, kick returns jeez what ways are the Seahawks going to use him that the Vikings did not?
Do you belong to a Seahawk's message board? If you do, do you glorify them as much on it as you criticize the Vikings on this one? Just wondering.
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PurpleKoolaid wrote:?
What's up with the ? mark. You posted that the Vikings did not know how to use Harvin right and "get the most out of him"? I told you the ways that they used him and in fact he was leading the league in receiving when he got hurt and was being talked about as being a league MVP wasn't he?
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Carroll and the GM know talent. That's why they spent so much on PH, and Rice. They can also, unlike us, get talent late in drafts. PH played a good game in the SB. Get over it. Wanna bet he gets another? Heath also got one, are you happy for him at least? Just a ST guy.

This has NOTHING to do with what I'm talking about. I am not questioning the seahawks ability to find and develop talent. I also am not denying that Percy Harvin didn't have a good super bowl game. What I said is that Harvin was LUCKY to be put in a situation to get traded to a good team and make it all the way to the superbowl despite him being hurt majority of the season. That being said, I don't have to get over s***. F*** Harvin and everyone who likes him. I don't give a damn about Heath either, f*** him too. I respect them as football players. however if they ain't playing for Vikings, f*** them. That goes for any player that's not under a Vikings contract.
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King James wrote: So the fact that he got traded to a good team, missed most of the season but still got to the super bowl, and got to play in the super bowl despite the lack of reps and playing time he's gotten all year isn't lucky. Just like here in Minnesota, we got to the playoffs without him. This time he has their #1 ranked defense to thank, and the offense to thank for carrying the load without him on it for majority of the year. But that is not lucky? :roll:
I'd say he was fortunate, but I don't know about lucky. Did he have no say in where he got traded? Seattle traded a first rounder for a reason you know, because Harvin is fairly good when healthy. Is He lucky that he is good, or is there hard work involved? Sheesh, nobody is saying he carried Seattle to the SB. You're dead wrong about him not being right about anything. He was right that Ponder is a pudwacker who has no business under center.
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frosted21 wrote:Don't forget Pete Caroll and Steven Hauschka.
When was Hauschka a Viking? Was he one of those guys they brought in to scare Longwell?
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Webbfann wrote:I'd say he was fortunate, but I don't know about lucky. Did he have no say in where he got traded?


Probably not. He was under contract. He could have held out if he didn't like the destination but beyond that, I doubt he had much, if any, say at all.
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