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Mothman wrote: I'm so desperate for the Vikings to find a good starting QB that I actually did some research on it. :lol:

As far as I can tell, the top QBs in the CFL are (in no particular order):

Travis Lulay
Ricky Ray
Antony Calvillo

Lulay is 30, Ray is 34 and Calvillo (Trestman's old CFL QB) is now over 40.
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I heard of this older guy named Kapp that played in Canada, might give him a tryout :)
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Mothman wrote:They should draft a QB at some point this year but they should also consider free agents, trading, looking outside of the NFL and the NCAA
I agree

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THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LOL :point: :point: :point: :point: :point: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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SkyFire wrote:THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LOL :point: :point: :point: :point: :point: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I actually know a girl who wants to try out for them. I wouldn't mind seeing her in skimpy clothing bumping other women, if you know what I mean...

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I honestly would be interested in a women's NFL, legitimately, without the TnA. I imagine it would be more finesse and it might be interesting to see how it evolves.

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When I look at our Defense I have to ask myself who on our team could start for a playoff team , I think Smith and Rhodes could, but after that Greenway is a maybe possibility , would have to be in the right situation where he is not asked to cover much , Robison possibly and that is about it. Maybe guys like Floyd, and Griffen could become good players with good coaching,I don't mean to sound so pessimistic but that leaves a lot of holes to fill.
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Husker Vike wrote:When I look at our Defense I have to ask myself who on our team could start for a playoff team , I think Smith and Rhodes could, but after that Greenway is a maybe possibility , would have to be in the right situation where he is not asked to cover much , Robison possibly and that is about it. Maybe guys like Floyd, and Griffen could become good players with good coaching,I don't mean to sound so pessimistic but that leaves a lot of holes to fill.
Nah... everyone who didn't play a significant amount of time last season is ready to start for a playoff team. It's just that bumbling incompetents who coached the Vikes last year didn't recognize the ready-to-excel immediately greatness on their bench. ;)

Sarcasm aside, I agree with you. The defense is full of holes. There may be some young players on the roster who can plug them but we just don't know yet and I think you're right to differentiate between players who can start and players who could start for a playoff team. There's a big difference in talent between the Vikings defense and that of, say, the 49ers or Seahawks. It's going to take amore than great coaching to make up that difference.
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mosscarter wrote:i think the sad reality is there isn't a quarterback in this draft that has "franchise" written on them. maybe manziel, but if we went all in on him and he didn't pan out we would be in a monumental hole. i wouldn't mind a defensive pick in the first round either, but if we don't somehow address the qb position effectively lombardi couldn't win with this team.
Dont know if Zach Mettenberger has that franchise look but i think he's the next best thing to Manziel.
Maybe better, seems to have a sharp resolute calm about himself. They say he wont go very high in the draft because of a torn ACL.
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mossbutt wrote: Dont know if Zach Mettenberger has that franchise look but i think he's the next best thing to Manziel.
Maybe better, seems to have a sharp resolute calm about himself. They say he wont go very high in the draft because of a torn ACL.

I liked what I saw from Mettenberger this year before his injury. He's a big, solid guy w/ a solid arm.

He apparently has some odd hygiene issues (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/0 ... 33081.html) :lol:

but I do like him as a 2nd or 3rd rd. prospect.
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mossbutt wrote: Dont know if Zach Mettenberger has that franchise look but i think he's the next best thing to Manziel.
Maybe better, seems to have a sharp resolute calm about himself. They say he wont go very high in the draft because of a torn ACL.
Do u mean Murray? I dont remember Mettenberger having a torn ACL.

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The thing that worries me about picking a QB is this. Say we pick someone at 8. For the heck of it say, Manzial is there and we take him. Someone down the row picks McCarron and he is the one that becomes the next Franchise QB while the Vikings pick is once again the bust.
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PurpleMustReign wrote: Do u mean Murray? I dont remember Mettenberger having a torn ACL.

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mrc44 wrote:If Zimmer is hired, Mauti will start as long as he is healthy and he will be a beast!! the guy is a leader and has the intangibles, lets not forget he was a 1st rd pick to many if he didnt rip his leg up. We all got a little taste of how fast he is with pads on when he was stride for stride with Patterson on that kick return.

I am with you Pondering, I honestly think we have some talented LB's on this team that have not been given a chance to play because Frazier was Fathered up with Henderson and Greenway is the fan favorite that has missed more tackles the older and older he gets.

Gerald Hodges could see some playing time at LB, but he used to be a safety... why not throw him back at safety for a little and see if he still has it? He is the size of Cam Chancellor of Seattle isn't he?. Not saying he wouldnt be good enough to play LB, just throwing it out there.

I think we have a ton of talent on this team, and with Zimmer at HC, this Defense honestly could be top 10 next year with a few players grabbed in draft and FA.

IMHO, Mauti, Cole, Hodges will all see the field next year. Zimmer will most likely run 4-3, he only ran 3-4 under Parcells years ago from my knowledge and has always preferred 4-3 or a 3-4 hybrid.

I can wait to see this teams tenacity on the field next year, its going to get nasty! Guys like Henderson and Cook wont survive Zimmer, no way anyone is gauranteed a spot unless they earn it. no more buddy buddy nonsense in Minny!

By the way... anyone see the wilfs trying to get hardknocks Vikings edition if Zimmer gets hired? HBO loves Zimmer and his personality.
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Raptorman wrote:The thing that worries me about picking a QB is this. Say we pick someone at 8. For the heck of it say, Manzial is there and we take him. Someone down the row picks McCarron and he is the one that becomes the next Franchise QB while the Vikings pick is once again the bust.
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Mothman wrote: It could happen but you can't hit a home run if you never take a swing.
No kidding, that's why they spend countless hours analyzing and studying these guys.

How about another hypothetical?

Say we pass on Manziel and wait to get a guy like McCarron and he's a bust while Manziel goes on to win 3 super bowls?

It works both ways.
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