2014 Current and Potential Coaches

[PurpleKoolaid]

I still think Musgrave and Williams are both must-go's. We need an offensive guy that is creative and is able to open up this offense more. It's wayyyy to predictable right now and very hard to watch. Defensively, we need an aggressive guy in here that doesn't sit back and let teams march down the field on us. More so, a Mike Zimmer type defense.

Speaking of Cincy, Jay Gruden has also been linked to the Vikings head coaching vacancy.

I'm sure the new coach will want nothing to do with trash like Williams and Musgrave. And where have you seen Jay being linked with the Vikes? Other then the Vikes are looking for a HC? Every team looking of a HC is linked to Jay....

[PurpleKoolaid]

I'm hoping we get the CIN DC. I know folks do not like this idea, but I think Musgrave hasn't been that terrible as the OC. They are in the top 10 in offense in a QB league with total garbage at the QB for most games this season.

It would be exciting to see what this team could do if it had even a halfway competent pass defense.

I would have to say, among people I know, and people on web forums, Zimmer is the #1 realistic HC. I would be very happy.

[mondry]

I want an offensive minded coach because when a team doesn't have a franchise guy at QB it's so much more important to have the offensive system and eye for QB talent that can really be taught to the young guy. I don't think someone like Musgrave is capable of teaching and developing a young QB like a Mike Mccarthy is and if your head coach is a defensive guy he likely doesn't know much about Qb's.

Now with that said I'd still take Zimmer, a defensive guy because at the end of the day the right head coach has a trickle down effect to the right coordinators, the right coaches, etc and I think he is that guy.

[saint33]

Thank the lord! The Jon Gruden speculation can die now

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... or-nfl-job

[Pondering Her Percy]

I'm sure the new coach will want nothing to do with trash like Williams and Musgrave. And where have you seen Jay being linked with the Vikes? Other then the Vikes are looking for a HC? Every team looking of a HC is linked to Jay....

Go on rotoworld.com and under where it says Frazier was fired, it mentions that Jay Gruden was linked to the vacancy among others.

[S197]

Gase is scary but also a little intriguing. He's young and as only been an OC for a year, but I also think he doesn't get enough credit for that offense. Yes, Manning is a huge part but I think what Gase has done is very underrated.

I think it's too early for him to assume a HC job but it's tempting to go with a strong offensive minded coach after seeing such boring unimaginative playcalling here for years.

I'm hoping with the Browns showing just how dysfunctional their front office is, Horton will want to leave. He's really the one that turned around Arizona's defense and he's also done a very good job in Cleveland. He'll need a top notch OC, but he's definitely in my top 3.

[MrPurplenGold]

I want an offensive minded coach because when a team doesn't have a franchise guy at QB it's so much more important to have the offensive system and eye for QB talent that can really be taught to the young guy. I don't think someone like Musgrave is capable of teaching and developing a young QB like a Mike Mccarthy is and if your head coach is a defensive guy he likely doesn't know much about Qb's.

Now with that said I'd still take Zimmer, a defensive guy because at the end of the day the right head coach has a trickle down effect to the right coordinators, the right coaches, etc and I think he is that guy.

I think I'm with you on this one. I think going with an Offensive mind and hiring someone like Seattle's cornerbacks coach as our D-Coordinator could be a good decision for us in the long run. The QB position will determine how far this franchise will go and we need someone that can develop a quarterback into a franchise quarterback.

[mansquatch]

Mondry,

I think Musgrave is good enough at OC at least for now. IMO we lost most this year due to the defensive disaster than we did to offensive blunders. I'd be perfectly fine with a Defensive Ace (by that I mean innovator) coming in and taking over that side of the ball and then let Priefer run ST and Musgrave continue to call plays.

Listening to the radio today everyone is harping on the QB, which is understanable, but I think that is remiss as it doesn't address the huge defensive issues on this team.

[King James]

I'm hearing the Redskins' owner have already met with Bill Cowher twice. Spielman needs to make that move now and try to get Cowher an interview or something. That's the coach we need!!

[Mothman]

Yuck, at first glance I would not favor Adam Gase...Peyton is his own offensive coordinator. What has this Gase guy ever done?

I think the more pertinent question is "what can he do"? I have no idea but if they think he's a young "up and comer" there's no harm in considering him for the job.

The Strib posted a list of 10 potential candidates. They're probably just speculating but here's a link:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikin ... 87381.html

They included a blurb after each one but I've posted the list below.

Greg Roman, 49ers offensive coordinator
Ken Whisenhunt, Chargers offensive coordinator: Former Arizona Cardinals head coach
James Franklin, Vanderbilt
Jay Gruden, Bengals offensive coordinator
Mike Zimmer, Bengals defensive coordinator
Adam Gase, Broncos offensive coordinator
Jack Del Rio, Broncos defensive coordinator
Lovie Smith, ex-Chicago coach
David Shaw, Stanford coach
Josh McDaniels, Patriots offensive coordinator

[cogitator]

Yuck, at first glance I would not favor Adam Gase...Peyton is his own offensive coordinator. What has this Gase guy ever done?

I really don't like the idea of a "hot young assistant" that nfl.com keeps claiming we are interested in.

Manning is a big part of the play calling, but the local sports folks here think Gase's offensive schemes are much better than the departed Mike McCoy. But it's only been one year, and he's young, probably some seasoning is a good idea before he makes that jump to HC. Another guy I wouldn't like to see is Josh McDaniels. I think he's very smart and very football savvy, Belicheck took him back after he was fired after all, but I don't think he manages people at all well, and that includes both the coaching staff and the players. I did see his name being kicked around for the Browns job anyway.

[Crax]

Manning is a big part of the play calling, but the local sports folks here think Gase's offensive schemes are much better than the departed Mike McCoy. But it's only been one year, and he's young, probably some seasoning is a good idea before he makes that jump to HC. Another guy I wouldn't like to see is Josh McDaniels. I think he's very smart and very football savvy, Belicheck took him back after he was fired after all, but I don't think he manages people at all well, and that includes both the coaching staff and the players. I did see his name being kicked around for the Browns job anyway.

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Yep. There are some guys that are good Coordinators, but probably shouldn't be head coaches, I think McDaniels is one of those. Wade Phillips as well. McDaniels is young enough though, so he's got plenty of time to try again.

[cogitator]

I think the more pertinent question is "what can he do"? I have no idea but if they think he's a young "up and comer" there's no harm in considering him for the job.

The Strib posted a list of 10 potential candidates. They're probably just speculating but here's a link:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikin ... 87381.html

They included a blurb after each one but I've posted the list below.

Greg Roman, 49ers offensive coordinator
Ken Whisenhunt, Chargers offensive coordinator: Former Arizona Cardinals head coach
James Franklin, Vanderbilt
Jay Gruden, Bengals offensive coordinator
Mike Zimmer, Bengals defensive coordinator
Adam Gase, Broncos offensive coordinator
Jack Del Rio, Broncos defensive coordinator
Lovie Smith, ex-Chicago coach
David Shaw, Stanford coach
Josh McDaniels, Patriots offensive coordinator

I already commented on McDaniels. On this list, I think both Smith and Whisenhunt would be good hires. You never quite know what happens when someone moves from a coordinator position to HC. Who was the guy (big time up and comer) who went from the Giants DC to Rams HC? Well, whoever it was, the Rams did nothing for 2or 3 years for him and they had to give him the boot (and of course, Norv Turner, Wade Philips are also good examples). They seem to fail as often as succeed, rather get someone with some head coaching experience and a little success there too.

[saint33]

I already commented on McDaniels. On this list, I think both Smith and Whisenhunt would be good hires. You never quite know what happens when someone moves from a coordinator position to HC. Who was the guy (big time up and comer) who went from the Giants DC to Rams HC? Well, whoever it was, the Rams did nothing for 2or 3 years for him and they had to give him the boot (and of course, Norv Turner, Wade Philips are also good examples). They seem to fail as often as succeed, rather get someone with some head coaching experience and a little success there too.

There is no proven formula on where to find a new head coach. The success rate of coaches from college, coaches from coordinator positions, past semi-success coaches with no superbowls, or past superbowl winners is all about the same.

look at the list of the best head coaches today and where they came from:

Bill Belichick - retread from Cleveland
Pete Carroll - college and retread from NFL
Jim Harbaugh - college
John Harbaugh - position coach
Mike McCarthy - coordinator
Mavin Lewis - coordinator
John Fox - retread from Carolina
Tom Coughlin - retread from Jacksonville
Sean Payton - coordinator
Andy Reid - retread from Philadelphia

[saint33]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2h
Vikings have requested permission to interview Seahawks DC Dan Quinn, as Browns have.


Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 2h
Vikings want to interview Cardinals DC Todd Bowles. And as @JasonLaCanfora reported, so do the Browns.