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So Eli is having a terrible regular season, that should make us feel better about Ponder? Who's having a below average year and still getting "praise" from homers?That Ponder is having a better year, that's what the hell the point is!!!
This is just another indictment of the QBR. In fact I say it's another nail in the coffin.Raptorman wrote:Wait, I have to point this out so we have one more thing to argue about. Ponders QBR for week ten was 95. Higher than any other QB this past week!
What's it mean? Well nothing really. Just wanted to point it out. And his yearly QBR is 58.7. Higher than Brady, Locker, Newton, Dalton, Flacco, Bradford, A. Smith, Griffin, Roethlisberger, Fitzpatrick, Glennon, Schaub, Tannnehill, E. Manning, and C. Palmer. Wow, just wow. Do we have franchise QB on our hands?
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starts cmp att pct yards avg td int rating
Bradford 7 159 262 60.7 1687 6.44 14 4 90.9
Newton 9 170 271 62.7 1970 7.27 13 8 88.3
Roethlisberger 9 218 338 64.5 2534 7.50 13 10 87.6
Locker 7 111 183 60.7 1256 6.86 8 4 86.7
Dalton 10 239 383 62.4 2861 7.47 18 13 86.7
Griffin 9 205 337 60.8 2450 7.27 12 9 83.8
Glennon 5 123 204 60.3 1165 5.71 8 3 83.1
Brady 9 194 340 57.1 2256 6.64 13 6 82.7
A. Smith 9 188 315 59.7 1919 6.09 9 4 81.4
Tannehill 8 175 289 60.6 1977 6.84 11 9 80.8
Schaub 6 150 233 64.4 1552 6.66 8 9 78.8
Ponder 6 115 179 64.2 1246 6.96 5 7 77.6 <--
Flacco 9 204 346 59.0 2307 6.67 12 11 77.3
Fitzpatrick 2 63 111 56.8 790 7.12 4 4 76.0
Palmer 9 194 316 61.4 2154 6.82 12 15 74.5
E. Manning 9 183 329 55.6 2307 7.01 11 16 68.5Came off the bench and attempted but failed a comeback is greater than playing the entire game and putting up huge numbers in a win. QBR = biggest crock of crap ever.Further controversy erupted when the Total QBR system gave the Denver Broncos' Tim Tebow a higher rating than the Green Bay Packers' Aaron Rodgers in their respective Week 5 contests in 2011. Noting that Rodgers completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns in a win over the Atlanta Falcons, while Tebow completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown, and six rushes for 38 yards and a touchdown, in a loss to the San Diego Chargers, Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com wrote that he'll "continue to ignore ESPN’s Total QBR stat."[10] Rodgers himself was surprised: "I saw the [QBR stats] and chuckled to myself. I played a full game, [Tebow] played the half. He completed four passes, I completed 26. I think it incorporates QB runs as well ... The weighting of it doesn't make a whole lot of sense."[11] ESPN's Stats and Information Group explained that Tebow's higher rating was the result of him staging a partial comeback, taking no sacks, and having positive rushing yards and a rushing touchdown, among other factors.[12][13] However, Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports wrote that the QBR system lacks a minimum performance frequency floor that players must meet before they can be rated, and thus it essentially penalizes Rodgers because he played throughout the entire game, while rewarding Tebow because he came off the bench in the second half in an attempt to stage a comeback
From @ESPNStatsInfo: Christian Ponder has 5th-best QBR in the NFL from the shotgun in the last 3 weeks. Has looked more comfortable there.
Now, here's the rub: #Vikings have only handed the ball to Peterson 16 times in shotgun all year. Big change for him if they were to use it.
Ben Goessling on TwitterAnother crazy Ponder shotgun stat: When he's in it, as you'd expect, he sees 7 or more in the box 22% of the time. Under center, it's 79%!
dead_poet wrote: Ben Goessling on Twitter
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikin ... um=twitterBut what if the Vikings can figure out how to run effectively from the shotgun? Right now, they seem fairly predictable when they move Ponder out from under center, but might they have a solution for a couple of their problems by backing up and spreading out the defense? There are some members of the Vikings' organization who have grumbled about offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave's tendency to bunch players up on the line of scrimmage, effectively attracting more defenders and choking off space for Peterson. But in the past few weeks, Musgrave has started to open up their offense and trust Ponder to work from a formation he says he enjoys.
For the time being, that decision might provide a spark to the Vikings' offense, especially if they can make it work for both their MVP running back and their fledgling quarterback.
To Musgrave's credit, he only recently found out that putting receivers outside the hash marks isn't an illegal formation.mondry wrote:lol, I wonder who's been saying that for quite a while now?!?!?
Peterson 18 carries, 101 yards, 5.61 average, and a TD from the shotgunThe Breeze wrote:
Be curious to see how those 16 runs did. I am one who thinks they should run him more out of passing formations...or at least have the option to audible into it once they get up to the LOS.
That 0-16 season for them helped them pick him #1. He already has the record for most yards passing as a Lion and soon all time in TD's. But hey, high draft picks never work out.Reignman wrote:Stafford had 267 yards passing in the 2nd quarter alone today at Pittsburgh. Ponder has thrown for under 267 yards in 91% of his career starts, and hasn't thrown for 267 yards in a full game since week 6 last year at Washington (17 starts ago).
