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Oh you mean that TD pass to Tim Jennings at the 1:37 mark?Mothman wrote:... or how about this throw to Jennings against Chicago earlier this season?
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... bb87839bbd
The pass is at around approximately the 3:09 mark.
... and now you know why. I saw that joke coming!Reignman wrote:Oh you mean that TD pass to Tim Jennings at the 1:37 mark?
Oh you said the at the 3:09 mark.
I think we both know the answer to that question.Yes that was a helluva a pass, no doubt about it, but would you say that example was more the exception or the norm when it comes to a typical Ponder pass type thing?
S197 wrote: George Costanza rule, always leave on a high note.
Ah yes the invitations that were sent out to his cheap wedding! The puzzle pieces begin to fall in place.... SERENITY NOW!Mothman wrote:
I heard that he didn't actually dislocate his shoulder but rather that he poisoned his system by licking too many invitation envelopes that were made using cheap glue.
Isn't it getting close to Festivus?S197 wrote: Ah yes the invitations that were sent out to his cheap wedding! The puzzle pieces begin to fall in place.... SERENITY NOW!
For people that actually are throwing the word "great" around with regard to Ponder's performance against the Redskins... you have have GOT to be joking!!!CalVike wrote: Great post! Ponder was good to great last night and earned a game ball, like the much maligned DL, from my perspective. I was ecstatic that he led the team to earn a much needed win in a truly enjoyable game. Skol!!!!
I just want wins. Ponder played well enough to win on Thu. I have no interest in calling him limited in every post. Give credit where credit is due or why post on a message board that favors intelligent discussion about Viking success? That's all.majorm wrote:For people that actually are throwing the word "great" around with regard to Ponder's performance against the Redskins... you have have GOT to be joking!!!
How LOW has the QB bar gotten around here??!
He was decent. His passes were still all pretty short. Although he did show some impressive arm strength on the pick that nearly hit the dome ceiling! He had some guys that were so open, I could have gotten the ball to them. The Skin defense may be as bad as the Vikings. With guys so open, the pass can be off a bit and it's no big deal. I don't remember seeing him thread any balls into tight coverage and he still throws nothing intermediate to deep down the middle.
He was pretty good. Much better than he has been previously this season. But again, compared to a REAL NFL QB...no. Just NO!
I mean I want a QB for the Vikings that does what Drew Brees does. Now THAT guy is great!
Demi, help me out here. People are losing their minds.
He has a passer rating over 100 against Seattle, THEN maybe I'll think he's figured something out. Although they still HAVE to take a QB #1.
My exact thoughts!CalVike wrote: I just want wins. Ponder played well enough to win on Thu. I have no interest in calling him limited in every post. Give credit where credit is due or why post on a message board that favors intelligent discussion about Viking success? That's all.
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Interestingly enough, even as bad as Ponder has been, if it wasn't for the defense the Vikings could be 5-4, possibly even 6-3 with the Giants/Josh Freeman debacle, and in the thick of the hunt in the NFC North.majorm wrote:
For people that actually are throwing the word "great" around with regard to Ponder's performance against the Redskins... you have have GOT to be joking!!!
How LOW has the QB bar gotten around here??!
He was decent. His passes were still all pretty short. Although he did show some impressive arm strength on the pick that nearly hit the dome ceiling! He had some guys that were so open, I could have gotten the ball to them. The Skin defense may be as bad as the Vikings. With guys so open, the pass can be off a bit and it's no big deal. I don't remember seeing him thread any balls into tight coverage and he still throws nothing intermediate to deep down the middle.
He was pretty good. Much better than he has been previously this season. But again, compared to a REAL NFL QB...no. Just NO!
I mean I want a QB for the Vikings that does what Drew Brees does. Now THAT guy is great!
Demi, help me out here. People are losing their minds.
No, they aren't losing their minds. Everybody is just ping-ponging back and forth on this subject. Nobody thinks Ponder is a great QB. The bar is set where it's always been set. When Ponder completes 80% of his passes, leads the Vikes on 4 TD drives in 6 or 7 possessions, and plays a crucial role in a much-needed win, there's naturally going to be a positive reaction from fans who are happy/relieved/encouraged/whatever about the win and the good performance. There should be a positive reaction. However, just as naturally, people who are down on Ponder are going to jump in and downplay the performance by pointing to an opportunity he missed, a mistake he made, the fact that he didn't do absolutely everything they want to see from a QB, etc.majorm wrote:For people that actually are throwing the word "great" around with regard to Ponder's performance against the Redskins... you have have GOT to be joking!!!
How LOW has the QB bar gotten around here??!
He was decent. His passes were still all pretty short. Although he did show some impressive arm strength on the pick that nearly hit the dome ceiling! He had some guys that were so open, I could have gotten the ball to them. The Skin defense may be as bad as the Vikings. With guys so open, the pass can be off a bit and it's no big deal. I don't remember seeing him thread any balls into tight coverage and he still throws nothing intermediate to deep down the middle.
He was pretty good. Much better than he has been previously this season. But again, compared to a REAL NFL QB...no. Just NO!
I mean I want a QB for the Vikings that does what Drew Brees does. Now THAT guy is great!
Demi, help me out here. People are losing their minds.
Are you sure it would stop THEN? I dunno... I guess I'm just skeptical!Mothman wrote:
None of this is going to end until the Vikes actually have the next Brees, Rodgers, Manning, etc. and until that player has proven his value as a starting NFL QB.
I'm not sure it would. As I recall, Culpepper had his share of critics even before he was injuired.mondry wrote: Are you sure it would stop THEN? I dunno... I guess I'm just skeptical!
Well said, I've noticed the same thing. It's also a case of throwing a lot of stuff at the wall and hanging onto the ones that stick. If you go back to the old draft threads, there were a good amount of people that were really high on Brady Quinn. Upset even that we took AD over him. Same goes with Jimmy Clausen and I'm sure many others. It's easy to say pick X, Y, and Z, then turn around and say, "I told you X was a great pick!" Nevermind the fact that Y and Z never panned out.Mothman wrote:People get invested in being right and feel the need to reinforce their position. It's no longer possible to just appreciate a good performance without this kind of thread developing and it won't be until the Vikes have a new QB. Then there might be a brief grace period before the griping begins anew and unless that player is an immediate success, the griping will begin anew. Actually, I suspect it will begin right after he's drafted, when he'll either be perceived as a reach or the wrong QB because X was available and X would have better.
