Cleveland's last drive

[mondry]

Rudolph is another one and it's actually sad that a guy with hands like Rudolph isn't targeted. Ponder doesn't seem to recognize mismatches at the LOS. It's disheartening.

Rudolph doesn't have the speed to get open by 4-5 steps (what's needed for Ponder to actually believe someone is open) so he doesn't trust him to come up with the ball. That's why it's funny, in the probowl with good QB's throwing to him he's the probowl MVP. With Ponder? Barely even notice he's on the team!

[The Breeze]

No, Rodan = playoffs

MOTHra = Super Bowl.

Jim

Yeah...nice wordplay.
You gotta have Mothra for the larva babies....that's what you feed Rodan.

[The Breeze]

Tony Gonzalez is the original I believe. He played b-ball in college. Our very own Cris Carter played basketball too, just like Randy Moss who happened to be teammates with Jason Williams(former NBA player) in highschool.

Rudolph is another one and it's actually sad that a guy with hands like Rudolph isn't targeted. Ponder doesn't seem to recognize mismatches at the LOS. It's disheartening.

I think you have to go back to Kellen Winslow Sr to find the prototype for todays pass catching TEs. Guys who don't really play big roles in the blocking game and are purely offensive weapons.

Winslow did not play basketball, however...but he revolutionized the TE postion.

[dead_poet]

Winslow did not play basketball, however...but he revolutionized the TE postion.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. It goes back a lot further than that. Credit where credit is due. I'll put in a plug for Mike Ditka here as one of the guys credited with revolutionizing the TE position. As a rookie, Ditka became the first ever tight end in the history of the NFL to record over 1,000 receiving yards, and the twelve receiving touchdowns he notched as a TE that season held as an NFL record for 43 years. His combination of speed and size made him a nightmare for safeties and cornerbacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk9Ogk65Kx8

[Mothman]

Yeah...nice wordplay.
You gotta have Mothra for the larva babies....that's what you feed Rodan.

LOL!

[The Breeze]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. It goes back a lot further than that. Credit where credit is due. I'll put in a plug for Mike Ditka here as one of the guys credited with revolutionizing the TE position. As a rookie, Ditka became the first ever tight end in the history of the NFL to record over 1,000 receiving yards, and the twelve receiving touchdowns he notched as a TE that season held as an NFL record for 43 years. His combination of speed and size made him a nightmare for safeties and cornerbacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk9Ogk65Kx8

I'll concede to your point....cause I agree. The only reason I stated it was Winslow was because I felt the time gap between Ditka and Winslow was much greater than the gap between Winslow Gates/Gonzalez....so I saw Ditka as more an anomally than a trendsetter. No doubt though, that he did what we're talkng about first.
There are also guys lik Russ Francis and Dave Casper who did loads at the position.

I really think it's the QBs best weapon cause it's the easier target to hit.

[Mothman]

I'll concede to your point....cause I agree. The only reason I stated it was Winslow was because I felt the time gap between Ditka and Winslow was much greater than the gap between Winslow Gates/Gonzalez....so I saw Ditka as more an anomally than a trendsetter. No doubt though, that he did what we're talkng about first.

There are also guys lik Russ Francis and Dave Casper who did loads at the position.

... and Shannon Sharpe and John Mackey and...

[The Breeze]

There are also guys like Russ Francis and Dave Casper who did loads at the position.

... and Shannon Sharpe and John Mackey and...

Jermaine Wiggins

[dead_poet]

Jermaine Wiggins

http://listbattle.com/227-top-10-touchdown-celebrations

(See #5)

[The Breeze]

http://listbattle.com/227-top-10-touchdown-celebrations

(See #5)

I can't believe Ernest Givins' 'Electric chicken dance' wasn't in the top 10.....I think it was Givins.