Vikings signed S Andrew Sendejo to a two-year, $2 million extension through 2015.
He gets $400,000 guaranteed, with another $600,000 available through incentives. Sendejo, 26, is not a defensive contributor, but had ten special teams tackles in 2012 and is considered a core member of kick and punt cover units. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
YAY! More special team players that will have ZERO impact on defense. Sendejo sure looked great maintaining his lane integrity last Sunday, that is for sure!
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80 PurplePride 84 wrote:
You do know not everyone can be starting material right? Core special teamers are good to have. Look at Larry Izzo he played for ever as a special teamer, as did Don Beebe. Kassim Osgood has been around a while for his special teams play. Special teams is a position too. Should Hester be cut because he sucks at WR and is only useful on returns?
This isn't a big deal. It's little money for a backup S who contributes on special teams. Who would you rather have as your 5th Safety? If your 5th Safety is expected to contribute on defense at any time you're in trouble no matter who it is anyway.
No, every player should be able to start at every respective position they play. Of course not every player can be starting material. I am sick and tired of backups who fit the specialist mode and not much else. Sandejo is not above and beyond good at what he does. Plus, he cannot add to the defense. Why should we waste a roster spot, and an active spot on game day, for a fifth safety that cannot contribute outside of special teams? To me, it doesn't make any sense.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:No, every player should be able to start at every respective position they play. Of course not every player can be starting material. I am sick and tired of backups who fit the specialist mode and not much else. Sandejo is not above and beyond good at what he does. Plus, he cannot add to the defense. Why should we waste a roster spot, and an active spot on game day, for a fifth safety that cannot contribute outside of special teams? To me, it doesn't make any sense.
With 53 man rosters, there are no NFL teams with that kind of depth, and there never will be. It's that simple. There are very few guys running around unemployed who could play safety better than Sendejo, never mind whether he's considered a special teams specialist. A significant number of players on any NFL roster are guys you wouldn't want starting. I'd be willing to say that number makes up at least 1/3, probably closer to 1/2 of the players in the NFL.
According to CBS and ESPN, Jennings has had 19 targets. When you compare the Vikings offense this year to Green Bay's last year, it's amazing that he's had that many passes thrown his way.
And honestly, in this offense, few people expect Jennings to stand out. He immediately becomes just a guy when the Vikings are trying to give Adrian Peterson the ball 35 times a game.
Eli wrote:[And honestly, in this offense, few people expect Jennings to stand out. He immediately becomes just a guy when the Vikings are trying to give Adrian Peterson the ball 35 times a game.
Which, of course, they aren't doing.
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Eli wrote:
According to CBS and ESPN, Jennings has had 19 targets. When you compare the Vikings offense this year to Green Bay's last year, it's amazing that he's had that many passes thrown his way.
And honestly, in this offense, few people expect Jennings to stand out. He immediately becomes just a guy when the Vikings are trying to give Adrian Peterson the ball 35 times a game.
See this chart shows the biggest problem with Ponder's accuracy, regardless of if he's completing the passes at a high rate or not. Look at our "total" YAC stat compared to opponents! Yet we have many guys who are great runners with the ball in there hands! If only they could be hit in stride and on time! 3.3 yards after the catch per reception using those stats! That's like the guys getting tackled forward basically!
mondry wrote:See this chart shows the biggest problem with Ponder's accuracy, regardless of if he's completing the passes at a high rate or not. Look at our "total" YAC stat compared to opponents!
Here's an interesting article regarding YAC, YAT (yards at touch) and YPA (yards per attempt).
He immediately becomes just a guy when the Vikings are trying to give Adrian Peterson the ball 35 times a game.
I wouldn't go that far. He's still a good receiver. Who's open, quite often. Especially compared to some guys we've had recently. Last game, chance to lock it up, he breaks out, wide open, accurate ball on a routine throw we win.
I wouldn't mention Peterson's name when discussing why he might produce like "just a guy". He's still playing like more than that. And he's made some nice moves with the ball in his hands as well.
The most surprising thing on this chart isn't the number of catches or targets that any one receiver has. For the most part, the Vikings have tried to spread it around, and Simpson's health allowing him to emerge as a solid #2 (#1?) receiver on the team, has dictated where the ball goes.
The most surprising thing to me is Kyle Rudolph's paltry > 2 < receptions for 1st downs. Ponder and Rudolph had developed something of a chemistry together, with Rudolph bailing his QB out of a lot of jams last year. Not this year.
Turns out, only YPA, which can be seen as a gauge of passing efficiency, has much correlation to winning and losing.
Not to be too contrarian here, but the YAC should mean more for this offense because many of their plays are designed to get YAC which is part of why the YPA is down...and is always down with Musgrave/Ponder.(meltdown/checkdowns being the other IMO) The little 2-3 yard passes or the ones behind the LOS are Musgrave's bread and butter, or so it seems.
They do(YPA n YAC) tie together and figure in the point your making, though.
Also, your point about Rudolph and Ponder is valid.....and it's a real mystery to me as to why he hasn't looked more for Kyle on those 3rd and intermediate downs. Unless, he is so concerned about getting the wideouts involved that he is not playing to any real strength. Just caught in his head and inefficient.
Who knows with this group? It truly baffles me to try and understand how they are thinking and what's really going on most of the time. I guess that's football.
