I watched a lot of old football films from back in the day, and if a player got hurt people celebrated. Football was like the American version of Gladiator Fighting in Rome back in day. Now when someone gets hurt, everybody cries and hold hands with the opposing team. Back in the day if you knocked someone's teeth out, they would taped the teeth to their helmets and let the next opponents know that they could be next.
Football is a tough sport. Injuries happen. These guys get paid millions of dollars and can afford the best surgeons. I don't have sympathy for these guys unless they play for the Alabama Crimson Tide or the Minnesota Vikings!.
I love both Percy and 'Toine, but they have a pretty significant injury history. In part because of how hard they play - it's why I like them. I don't wish an injury on either of them, but it makes me smile when I think of how my favorite team has avoided the problem of a season lost to injury to either or both of these guys.
Percys injury happened in Seahawks offseason camp, so if he had stayed here the situation would have been different. But I like having Jennings, a more respected outside WR, and Patterson with very high upside. And we lose a guy who wasn't very interested in being here.
It's not the fact that he left the team, it's how he left the team. Most fans like myself got the impression that he thought he was too good to play for us so he wanted out.
Now it would've been different if his situation was similar to Winfield's, a business decision. But this was more about Percy Harvin putting himself before the team and wanting out of Minnesota. I believe most fans loved Percy but after the trade I know most fans feel betrayed.
I know I do.
But ***** Percy Harvin. I hope he does come back in time to play us so we can injure him again.
PH did us wrong and we were almost put in situation where we get a 3rd round supplemental pick at best. We were lucky that Seattle came out of nowhere and gave us a 1st,3rd, and 7th. However, cheering for an injury is wrong. Percey is Seattle's headache now or maybe ours week 11.
The Seahawks have saved us from ourselves. We got a 3rd rounder for Burleson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh (the gold watch trick), and s.Rice (unremarkable the last 2 years). I don't understand people who are mad at the seahawks and we are lucky we didn't sign PH to the deal seattle did.
“The burned hand teaches best. After that, advice about fire goes to the heart.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien
EPV wrote:
PH did us wrong and we were almost put in situation where we get a 3rd round supplemental pick at best. We were lucky that Seattle came out of nowhere and gave us a 1st,3rd, and 7th. However, cheering for an injury is wrong. Percey is Seattle's headache now or maybe ours week 11.
The Seahawks have saved us from ourselves. We got a 3rd rounder for Burleson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh (the gold watch trick), and s.Rice (unremarkable the last 2 years). I don't understand people who are mad at the seahawks and we are lucky we didn't sign PH to the deal seattle did.
Thank the 9ers for the first round pick, them and the Seahawks are in an arms race.
EPV wrote:
PH did us wrong and we were almost put in situation where we get a 3rd round supplemental pick at best. We were lucky that Seattle came out of nowhere and gave us a 1st,3rd, and 7th. However, cheering for an injury is wrong. Percey is Seattle's headache now or maybe ours week 11.
The Seahawks have saved us from ourselves. We got a 3rd rounder for Burleson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh (the gold watch trick), and s.Rice (unremarkable the last 2 years). I don't understand people who are mad at the seahawks and we are lucky we didn't sign PH to the deal seattle did.
Call me crazy but I don't remember us having T.J Houshmandzadeh.
JEC334 wrote:
Call me crazy but I don't remember us having T.J Houshmandzadeh.
In 2009, we were in a bidding war for his services and seattle won and paid the possession reciever a contract of five-year $40 million contract with $15 million guaranteed. The GM for Seattle kept his watch and said he'd be back. They cut him after one year 15 million dollars richer. No, he never played on our team, but we wanted him. Seattle saved us from paying big money for him.
“The burned hand teaches best. After that, advice about fire goes to the heart.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien
EPV wrote:
In 2009, we were in a bidding war for his services and seattle won and paid the possession reciever a contract of five-year $40 million contract with $15 million guaranteed. The GM for Seattle kept his watch and said he'd be back. They cut him after one year 15 million dollars richer. No, he never played on our team, but we wanted him. Seattle saved us from paying big money for him.
Ok. Now I remember what you're talking about. I was one of the fans who really was hoping he'd become a Viking. But after his lack luster performance and the breakout season Sidney Rice had, we did save some big money. Though I figure the money we didn't have to pay him went to Favre.
80 PurplePride 84 wrote:
Harvin was traded mostly because the Vikings weren't willing to pay him what he wanted (with some concerns about his attitude/injuries playing into it). The only thing Harvin did was give a few indirect parting shots towards Ponder on the way out.
Im sure the Vikings would have had no trouble paying him but why pay a guy who can't even play a full season without missing a game? This year would have been the year for him to really step up and stay healthy. But like I said, he felt like he was bigger than the team. Why else would he demand so much money when most of his money is made sitting on his ###!!!
But its all over now. Forget Harvin. But God bless to stupid teams like the Seahawks for risking so much a player with an obvious medical history.
It really wouldn't have bothered me for Harvin to have a great season except when he played Minnesota. These guys get too banged up for me to wish injury on anyone. The damage is often life long. Knees that will never work right again, hip replacement, etc, it's a tough life. Within the last few years we've had suicides from Dave Duerson and Junior Seau related to head injuries, and one of the greatest centers of all time Mike Webster spent his last days dealing with dementia.
I certainly don't wish injury on anyone, I think it's bad form to do so and creates a backblast effect. That said, I am glad we were able to come out smelling so good on the deal! Seattle (aka MN West LOL) went in with thier eyes open on his health issues, so I certainly don't feel bad for the organization.
I don't understand how a team can justify paying full price for a part time player. With all the medical professionals around, they couldn't figure out how to keep Harvin healthy for a whole season re the migraines. Just glad it's not our problem anymore. I think it affects the team more than they let on, and very hard to have any consistency when one of your starters is basically a game-time call on playing.
Whether or not Harvin showed his butt about playing for The Boys, we're done with him and are moving on in MUCH better shape!
~Ginny~
A woman is only vulnerable while her nails are wet. Even then, she can pull the trigger if she needs to.
The Vikings were willing to pay PH. PH flat out wanted out of MN. That is why they traded him. Look at what they paid Jennings, they were willing to write the big check to PH. That wasn't the issue.
PH was a jerk to our club and put us in a terrible situation. Thankfully our GM was able to make the best of a bad deal and deserves to be commended for it. Keep in mind that the draft could have gone very differently and there could have not been a run on OL in the top of the 1st round. Then we might not have the guys we got. We were very fortunate n the backend of that mess.
The fact that PH is having some tough times now, injury or otherwise, is IMO, good Karma. Sure I liked him when he played here. I also stopped being a fan when he crapped on our team. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.
Winning is not a sometime thing it is an all of the time thing - Vince Lombardi
mansquatch wrote:The Vikings were willing to pay PH. PH flat out wanted out of MN. That is why they traded him. Look at what they paid Jennings, they were willing to write the big check to PH. That wasn't the issue.
I kinda figured that money wasn't the issue. Because if we still had Harvin we probably would've have had Jennings or Patterson. What I do remember hearing was that Harvin didn't like how the offense was ran and didn't have faith in Christian Ponder so he wanted out.
I also heard around the time he had his "injury" that he was actually cleared to play at some point by the doctors but told Frazier he wasn't going to play for the team so that's how he ended up on IR.
These could be just rumors but idk, but I do agree that his departure had more to do with just money.
so funny to me how people treat sports totally different than any other occupation. this is a business. it's peoples jobs. they are not our friends. they don't owe us anything. they play a game they are really good at and if we are so inclined...we can watch them and cheer for them.
people fall in love with players or decide to hate players they have never met and don't know a thing about. sure, we can read the media and draw conclusions. for instance...I have never met peyton manning nor have I met chris Johnson but I have determined who I think is a better person based on what I know. I could be way off. but because of that lack of knowledge is why I don't go spouting off about what jerks players are!
let's for a second say that harvin hated Minnesota. hated everything about it. he hated you. he hated me. he even hated walleye and cheese curds. let's get more extreme and say that even if he could tolerate all those things....he simply left for more money. what?! you mean to tell me there are still jerks out there that will relocate themselves and their entire family to do the exact same job simply for more money?!
what?! you mean to tell me there are still jerks out there that will relocate themselves and their entire family to do the exact same job simply for more money?!