mansquatch wrote:I still think the key with Ponder is INT and completion %. Everyone is focusing on yards because they want to see more deep passes, and FWIW, I think we'll see some more stuff past 10 yards. However, I still think this team is going to play a game built on winning the take give and that, IMO, means averaging less than 1 INT per game, preferably less than 0.75 INT. I would say the biggest goal for CP in 2013 is a single digit INT total.
It would be nice to see him put up 20+ TD and I think that is possible, but if he put up 18 TD, but only had 7 or 8 INT, I'd be ecstatic. They will win a lot of games if he continues to protect the football.
On the WR being set. Moth I think there is uncertainty to some degree, but it is also pretty safe to conclude that the starting WR will be some combination of Jennings, Wright, Simpson, and Patterson. I think Childs will take up the 5th roster spot if he gets off IR. So the big question is who is #6?
There may not be a #6. I think they only kept 5 WRs last year.
I i still think Childs is a serious longshot to make the final roster over the other receivers who will be competing for the 5th spot (and the 6th, if there is one). It would be a great story but he not only has to be sufficiently recovered, he needs to out-perform his competition.
They kept 6 (harvin, Simpson, wright, Jenkins, aromashadu, and burton). But your right, they may only keep 5. That will likely depend on how childs recovers, how Webb transitions and of any other young player emerges. Although with Jennings' durability and patterson's rawness might force their hand into keeping a 6th guy
Mothman wrote:
There may not be a #6. I think they only kept 5 WRs last year.
I i still think Childs is a serious longshot to make the final roster over the other receivers who will be competing for the 5th spot (and the 6th, if there is one). It would be a great story but he not only has to be sufficiently recovered, he needs to out-perform his competition.
Jerome Simpson, Jarius Wright, Michael Jenkins, Percy Harvin, Devin Aromashadou, and Stephen Burton. Unless Burton was moved to the PS or some where else, I might be forgetting.
saint33 wrote:They kept 6 (harvin, Simpson, wright, Jenkins, aromashadu, and burton). But your right, they may only keep 5. That will likely depend on how childs recovers, how Webb transitions and of any other young player emerges. Although with Jennings' durability and patterson's rawness might force their hand into keeping a 6th guy
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mondry wrote:Jerome Simpson, Jarius Wright, Michael Jenkins, Percy Harvin, Devin Aromashadou, and Stephen Burton. Unless Burton was moved to the PS or some where else, I might be forgetting.
I don't think he was on the practice squad. I may have been thinking it was 5 because after Harvin's injury, I think they just stuck with 5 active WRs the rest of the way.
I think they'll keep 6. Only way I see Childs not on the roster is if he is still on IR. Next year it might be different, but at this point I think they'll continue to hold onto their investment. He just has way too much upside to let him go in favor of a #6 guy on the depth chart who will likely never amount to anything.
Obviously there is a time table on such a proposition, but I do not think it will have run it's course this year.
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mansquatch wrote:I think they'll keep 6. Only way I see Childs not on the roster is if he is still on IR. Next year it might be different, but at this point I think they'll continue to hold onto their investment. He just has way too much upside to let him go in favor of a #6 guy on the depth chart who will likely never amount to anything.
I assume they wouldn't let him go in favor of a guy who will likely never amount to anything but rather for a player who might amount to something. Let's face it, at this point, Childs is arguablyas much of a player who will likely never amount to anything as some of his competition. I understand the team's investment of a 4th round pick might give him a little edge but I hope he'll have to earn his spot over the competition.
Obviously there is a time table on such a proposition, but I do not think it will have run it's course this year.
You may be right. I suppose it depends on just how much the team likes his game.
mansquatch wrote:I think they'll keep 6. Only way I see Childs not on the roster is if he is still on IR.
Wouldn't be too surprised by an injury settlement, a pat on the back and a "Good luck".
I worry about giving a guy like that a spot on the 53 man roster at the expense of a healthier young guy with some promise. A guy who you might try to float through waivers and onto the PS, but could get nabbed by some other team.
Purple Jesus wrote:
Seeing how we are run heavy, probably not. But, if somehow we have an all around high octane offense, then sure. I will say around 20 or so should be good.
First, lets get one thing straight. The Vikings are run heavy based on the fact the NFL average is 46% of plays are runs and 56% are passing. The Vikings last year ran 50%-50% on Pass-Run plays. So I would say we may be a bit heavy on the runs but not as much as people think.
As to Ponder and 25 TD's. It's possible. What he needs to do is increase his completion percentage first. 65%-67% should be the target. The Vikings have averaged roughly 500 pass attempts each year the last 4 years. So at 65% that would give him 325 completions. On top of that if he can get a 5% TD percentage that would give him 25. So can he do it? That's the question. 25 TD's would put him in the middle of the pack.
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Eli wrote:
Wouldn't be too surprised by an injury settlement, a pat on the back and a "Good luck".
I worry about giving a guy like that a spot on the 53 man roster at the expense of a healthier young guy with some promise. A guy who you might try to float through waivers and onto the PS, but could get nabbed by some other team.
I think you guys are 1 year early in your assessment, I think they'll give him the benefit of the doubt this year. Next year, I think you guys will be right if nothing changes. For me it is just about potential. I'd rather see them risk a Childs a this pont than put time into a Blanton. At some point soon he'll have to deliver though.
Winning is not a sometime thing it is an all of the time thing - Vince Lombardi
Let's face it, at this point, Childs is arguablyas much of a player who will likely never amount to anything as some of his competition. I understand the team's investment of a 4th round pick might give him a little edge but I hope he'll have to earn his spot over the competition.