cstelter wrote:
I think the OP was alluding to Tice, Steckle, Childress and Green. The first page of the article talked about two 'most notable omissions' naming Dennis Green and Jim Mora (Sr). Read Page 1 here
I agree about Denny Green. I suppose his W/L record keeps him off the list but in addition to his abysmal playoff record in Minnesota, he was a complete nut job. The Vikings have quite a history of embarrassing head coaches, which is a shame when you consider they had one of the best of all time in Bud Grant.
Hunter Morrow wrote:They made Mike Tice sound like this wretched bum but his last 3 seasons were all .500 or better and he finished 2nd in his division in first 4 full years of coaching.
9/7
8/8
9/7
I don't know, man. That doesn't sound like Worst Coach Ever material to me. Love Boat? Coaches have been less infamous for having murderers on their rosters. We just love people a bit too much maybe!
Further Edit: In that 2005 season that saw Culpepper's throw no touchdowns, 8 interceptions and fumble 3 times in his first 2 games for losses, suffer a career-wrecking knee injury AND Love Boat, Tice salvaged the season with the backup quarterback and went 9-7, 5 of those wins being in division to include sweeping the Packers. After turning chicken crap into chicken ala king basically he was promptly fired for a guy that went 6-10 the next season.
Edit:
Worse coaches ahead of Mike Tice at 32:
Tom Cable: HORRENDOUS coach who broke another coach's jaw. Complete lunatic moron
Lindy Infante, 36-60, made every team he took over actively worse, as big a difference as in the playoffs to 3-13
Norv Turner, the Epitome of Futility (arguable)
Hue Jackson, one 8-8 season when the Oakland Raiders were the Oakland Penalty Flags averaging nearly 10 a game, 2 of them personal fouls.
Erica "The Mangina" Mangini who had one playoff appearance and more hype than almost anybody in the league.
In 80 games he had one more win (33) than Tice had in 55.
Chan Gailey in Buffalo deserves a spot. Lots of talent, nothing but losses. 3 wins this season with 3 blowout losses of 24, 33 and 42 point losses.
Edit to the Edit: MIKE TICK WOULDN'T SPEND A PENNY. The Wilfs have just been money bukkake and all it got them was one fine season of Favre before the Saints mugged him out of the league.
Yea, I don't see how Tice makes the list being a .500 coach. He was just average and not taking us to a superbowl. And now in chicago, people want to get rid of him too. Nice guy, nice position coach.
GoldenBear91 wrote:Yea, I don't see how Tice makes the list being a .500 coach. He was just average and not taking us to a superbowl. And now in chicago, people want to get rid of him too. Nice guy, nice position coach.
Yeah, Tice is the quintessential position coach. Can't imagine what possessed anyone to think he could be an offensive coordinator, of all things.
mondry wrote:tice beat the packers in the playoffs, that single handedly makes him A-ok in my book !
Agreed!
He also had the most tight pocketed owner in the league. That not only prevented them from using FA, it also cost us Scott Linehan. Also, they had the most underfunded FO in probably the NFL, which resulted in some abyssmal drafts. Biggest mistake IMO, was trading Randy Moss.
Not exactly a recipe for success.
Winning is not a sometime thing it is an all of the time thing - Vince Lombardi
Laserman wrote:Ok Les was really bad, but childress and Tice? in the NFL history? i think the lions and saints have had far worse head coaches in their history.
Wayne Fonts deserves a special shrine of futility for not only wasting Barry Sanders, but getting him to reitre early and depriving fans of at least 2-3 more season of enjoying his excellence.
Winning is not a sometime thing it is an all of the time thing - Vince Lombardi
Laserman wrote:Ok Les was really bad, but childress and Tice? in the NFL history? i think the lions and saints have had far worse head coaches in their history.
They were simply on a list of 50, not the top 5, there were others ranked worse.
Eli wrote:
Yeah, Tice is the quintessential position coach. Can't imagine what possessed anyone to think he could be an offensive coordinator, of all things.
Agree for the most part. Chicago's o-line was not that good when tice coached them
mansquatch wrote:
Wayne Fonts deserves a special shrine of futility for not only wasting Barry Sanders, but getting him to reitre early and depriving fans of at least 2-3 more season of enjoying his excellence.
For what it's worth, Fontes was gone by the time Sanders left the sport. Bobby Ross had just completed his second season as Lions head coach when Sanders retired.
I never liked Tice. His teams never knew how to finish games or seasons. How many games did he lose in the 4th quarter? He also has the distinction of being the only coach to start a season 6-0 and miss the playoffs (2003). And in the final game that year (the miracle in the desert game) they showed him yucking it up with Moss and company on the sideline with an 11 point lead and just over 2 min remaining, so he belongs on this list IMO.
Without looking at the link, these are some of the bad coaches that come to mind.
Bobby Petrino
Les Steckel
Brad Childress
Mike Tice
Rod Marinelli
Bruce Coslet
Steve Spanuolo
Cam Cameron
Steve Spurrier
Eric Mangini
Lane Kiffin
Dick Jauron
Ray Perkins
David Shula
Jim Caldwell
Dave Campo
Marty Mornhinweg
Romeo Crennel
Rich Kotite
Bart Starr
Lou Holtz
"Our playoff loss to the Vikings in '87 was probably the most traumatic experience I had in sports." -- Bill Walsh
anyone old enough to have witnessed the travesty of Les Steckle is OBLIGED to list him as the WORST ever. He was abusive to the players with insane training camp/practices, he was stooooooooooooopid, and he was easily confused. Chilly and Tice might be under-qualified but Steckle was just plain toxic. What made it worse was that Steckle was alot closer to the Bud Grant Era so we old guys still had an idea of what a good Viking coach looked like. Its been SO MANY decades since we have had an NFL quality coach that the current fans just can't relate to teams with intelligent coaches....its sad.
chicagopurple wrote:anyone old enough to have witnessed the travesty of Les Steckle is OBLIGED to list him as the WORST ever. He was abusive to the players with insane training camp/practices, he was stooooooooooooopid, and he was easily confused. Chilly and Tice might be under-qualified but Steckle was just plain toxic. What made it worse was that Steckle was alot closer to the Bud Grant Era so we old guys still had an idea of what a good Viking coach looked like. Its been SO MANY decades since we have had an NFL quality coach that the current fans just can't relate to teams with intelligent coaches....its sad.
I did see him. I think Childress either beats him (or gives him a run for his money) only because of the state the team was in following his tenure. Steckel only had the one year (thankfully) so he didn't have much of a chance to mess the team up (long term). Childress left the team in such a poor state I'd consider him in the same category as Steckel (but for different reasons).
I've told people a million times not to exaggerate!