A-Rod now tarnished forever

[PurpleMustReign]

Alex Rodriguez was supposed to be the guy who saved baseball, the way that Mark McGwire did in 1998. He was supposed to ride in and save the home run record from the clutches of suspected steroid user Barry Bonds. He was supposed to be the guy who would show that clean players could be just as prolific as the cheaters.

But that's all changed now, in the aftermath of Saturday's report by SI.com's Selena Roberts and David Epstein that Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003. Rodriguez wouldn't respond to the information in the report, but anything he says really isn't going to change the fact that this will stick to him forever.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/s ... id=3890934


The one player on the Yankees that I am actually a big fan of. The one player who I was 100% sure was totally clean (other than maybe Ken Griffey Jr). This actually depresses me a little more about MLB. Maybe Griffey will be the premier player who will "save" MLB, although it is the tail end of his career.
I have always liked Griffey, and now, at this point, he (and maybe Albert Puljous) appears to be the only thing left to root for (other then the Twins of course).

[Demi]

Too good to be true...and he wasn't true.

I guess Canseco was right about everything, all along.

[PurpleMustReign]

I guess Canseco was right about everything, all along.

How scary is that???

[44_viking]

I do not even know what to think of all this anymore....

[purple guy]

To me it changes little. Substance that are either legal or illegal are used by most professional athletes Id bet. While MOST use the legal substances, they must improve their game, or they wouldnt use them would they???? So the only difference is some are legal and some are not. Enhancing substances, in baseball, football, hockey, basketball, happen probably more than most would care to know. I certainly dont think steroids are OK, by any means. But the line between whats legal and whats not seems razor thin. The "stars" get called out for testing positive, Id like to know the other 103 who tested positive, some would be surprising Id bet.
In the NFL I look at guys like Vernon Davis from SF, I have a hard time buying he isnt on SOME sort of substance that improves/alters his muscles/performance. So some are legal, others arent, fair enough, but for me, I wouldnt "asteric" some performances and not others, but thats just my point of view.
I know steroids should be banned and users should be diciplined, but this "some are OK and some arent" clouds the whole situation to me.

[Demi]

While MOST use the legal substances, they must improve their game, or they wouldnt use them would they???? So the only difference is some are legal and some are not.

You can just as easily look at it the other way however, if the legal substances helped their game even CLOSE to as much as illegal, why would anyone use the illegal substances? They wouldn't. Because the legal substances simply aren't as effective. Not even close.

But the line between whats legal and whats not seems razor thin.

Doesn't seem that thin, not by the various leagues (at least now) and even the United States law. It's extremely clear what's legal and what isn't.

[Hunter Morrow]

Man, I kind of respect Conseco now!
How sick is that?
Anyhow, who on the Yankees wasn't juicing? We've got Giambi dead to rights and now A Rod.
Makes you think.

[Cliff]

Man, I kind of respect Conseco now!
How sick is that?
Anyhow, who on the Yankees wasn't juicing? We've got Giambi dead to rights and now A Rod.
Makes you think.

What it makes me think is that if this kind of thing is going on in baseball then what is the actual level of steroid use in the NFL? With the sport being so much more violent and physically demanding it makes you wonder.

[glg]

What it makes me think is that if this kind of thing is going on in baseball then what is the actual level of steroid use in the NFL? With the sport being so much more violent and physically demanding it makes you wonder.

Unlike the MLBPA, the NFLPA agreed to testing a long time ago, so there's likely not nearly as much as there was in baseball.

I'd say less likely much steroids and more likely undetectable things like HGH.

[Hunter Morrow]

or at least things players think is undectable. As good as law enforcement thinks it is crooks are always one step ahead.

[Hunter Morrow]

From this article...
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=j ... &type=lgns

Jeter, who was born with the gift of avoiding controversy, used to come back after hitting a ball to the warning track, Torre said, and yelp, “Yeah, I’m on steroids.”

Of course, the Yankees’ four championships between 1996 and 2000 intersected with the other subject du jour: performance-enhancing drugs. More than a dozen players from those teams have been exposed as juicers, and A-Rod is the latest from the post-dynasty era to dabble. The names of ex-Yankees are damning – Roger Clemens, Kevin Brown, Andy Pettitte, Chuck Knoblauch, Jason Giambi, Jose Canseco, David Justice and Gary Sheffield, to name a few – and all Torre could say is that he was “naïve” and guilty of “trusting people.”


Sounds like a good half the bloody clubhouse was loaded throughout the 90s.
The didn't buy championships, they injected them!

[Hunter Morrow]

Bonds never popped hot on an MLB test.
But there is a subtle difference here, and no Virginia, it isn't race.
A rod is a metrosexual tool, and Bonds is a big, obnoxious dickhead.
I wonder how public perception of A rod will change?
Personally, I lost all respect for him over the Madonna thing. Not because he was hanging out with her, or possibly even banging her, but because he was married and acting like a whipped little weenie over it.

[Allenfreak69]

Bonds never popped hot on an MLB test.
But there is a subtle difference here, and no Virginia, it isn't race.
A rod is a metrosexual tool, and Bonds is a big, obnoxious dickhead.
I wonder how public perception of A rod will change?
Personally, I lost all respect for him over the Madonna thing. Not because he was hanging out with her, or possibly even banging her, but because he was married and acting like a whipped little weenie over it.

Yeah, in the course of a year a rod went from the kid proved you could be a force in baseball with out roids to a cheater. (both on his wife and in baseball.)

[Hunter Morrow]

There are over 100 names on that list, and A Rod is the only guy getting publicity. Can't we Sunshine Act/Freedom of Info Act that?
I wonder how many All Stars are on that list?
If its only 10 that means 11 of the hottest players in the league, 1 of them arguably the best, were juicing.

[glg]

There are over 100 names on that list, and A Rod is the only guy getting publicity. Can't we Sunshine Act/Freedom of Info Act that?

No. Documents retrieved as part of an investigation or criminal case are not subject to FOIA.