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J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:24 pm Dang, y’all. I am absolutely loving this season.

Nine in a row. NINE. I don’t care how they get it done. They’re doing it, game after game. Yeah, a 17-point game got tight. But did you honestly expect the Packers to just lie down? This was a GREAT WIN, and if you can’t be happy about it, then I have to wonder if you’ll ever be happy.
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J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:24 pm And … Sam Darnold has proven himself beyond a shadow of a doubt in my eyes. He played his best when his best was required, today especially. Tell me how many of you had Sam for 4,100+ yards and 38 TDs on your Bingo card. I certainly didn’t. No matter whether the Vikings keep him long term, the man has earned my undying respect.
That's the thing that stands out for me with Darnold this year. When the Vikings need him most, he gets it done. He's like the opposite of Cousins in that regard.
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:24 pm It’s all right in front of us. Beat the Lions, and it’s the No. 1 seed. A much-needed bye week. Home field throughout for the first time since 1998. It certainly won’t be easy. The Lions have been the class of the NFC all year. But I wouldn’t even rag never count this resilient group out.
Well, the Lions defense is hobbled. The Vikings have an offense that should be able to put the pressure on that side of the ball and keep it on all game. I view these matchups between playoff teams in the NFL like the old school WWE wrestling matchups. When one of those old school wrestlers knew his opponent was hobbled he'd focus on whatever that area was and keep on it, which usually resulted in victory. It will be interesting to see if and how the 49ers do against them tomorrow night, but they're a team with a very obvious issue right now.

Offensively, the Lions are as good as any team in the NFL, but there too they're missing a big piece with Montgomery out. The Lions are a passing team and can probably get by without a dominant run game, but if the game is close late and the Lions need to run time off the clock they're going to find that is harder without their best running back. It's the little things that add up when otherwise evenly matched teams face off.

It's right there for the Vikings this year. Let's see if they can go take it.
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J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:24 pm Dang, y’all. I am absolutely loving this season.

Nine in a row. NINE. I don’t care how they get it done. They’re doing it, game after game. Yeah, a 17-point game got tight. But did you honestly expect the Packers to just lie down? This was a GREAT WIN, and if you can’t be happy about it, then I have to wonder if you’ll ever be happy.

And … Sam Darnold has proven himself beyond a shadow of a doubt in my eyes. He played his best when his best was required, today especially. Tell me how many of you had Sam for 4,100+ yards and 38 TDs on your Bingo card. I certainly didn’t. No matter whether the Vikings keep him long term, the man has earned my undying respect.

It’s all right in front of us. Beat the Lions, and it’s the No. 1 seed. A much-needed bye week. Home field throughout for the first time since 1998. It certainly won’t be easy. The Lions have been the class of the NFC all year. But I wouldn’t even rag never count this resilient group out.

Psyched for next week. SKOL!
Nobody saw that coming including the last team he spent a season with. On this board it was always what game does JJM take over. That still goes on now. Beating the Packers is always great but I certainly didn't feel great or happy when we couldn't hit an easy FG to put the game out of reach. That was the final nail in the coffin and we couldn't pound it in. I don't see how anyone can be happy with that. The final result yes everybody is happy and even I picked us to win before hand. But there was some stuff that can't happen if they want to stretch this to 13 in a row.
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VikingLord wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:42 pm Very tough win today. The team put itself into a great position to get HFA throughout the playoffs and this year I think that is going to be a big advantage, especially for the Vikings. A couple of comments on the game:

First, what was going on with the officials today? They call a 15 yard penalty on Harrison Smith for a low block (how a defender goes in for a low block is a little beyond me) that wasn't a low block, and then just a few plays later completely miss an actual low block by a Packer offensive player that hurt Pat Jones. Then later, they call a complete phantom PI on Murphy when he had excellent coverage to keep a Packer drive alive. And then later still they call a defensive encroachment penalty on Ward(?) when replays show he moved a little pre-snap but never moved forward? Just seemed very suspicious in terms of the calls made and not made (one replay on a throw to JJ showed the Packer DB clearly pulling JJ's jersey as he broke out in his route, and on the amazing one-handed catch by JJ they called holding on Robinson, but the TV replays never showed that either, which makes me wonder). It's sad this is the first thing I have to bring up in my post-game observations, but that was just another crapshow by the refs today. I'm not sure what it is about refs and the Vikings, and maybe it's just what I see, but it sure seems at times like they don't call it fair.

Second, what was up with KOC and the use of his timeouts to end the first half? You've got 3 timeouts and plenty of time to get into position to take a shot at the endzone there. Why not use them? They let a lot of time run off the clock that didn't have to run off the clock in that situation. Maybe he addressed it in the post-game presser, but I was honestly shocked by that clock management.

Now, let's get to the happy topics....

I thought Sam started off a little jacked up, but he settled down and once he did he was very effective. With Darnold you are going to get some bad with the good, but for the most part I thought he looked very confident and decisive most of the day. That last ball to seal the win to Akers reminded me a lot of the pass that Darren Nelson dropped late against the Redskins back in the 1987 NFC Championship game, but Akers pulled it in. Very nice to see the Vikings run some effective misdirection against the over-eager Packers in that situation. Loved it. Also, it is so nice to see Darnold pushing the ball downfield. That is a big part of what he can do and the Vikings will need him to keep doing it from here on out. The INT was a bad decision maybe but not a bad throw. The Packer DB made a really nice play on that ball and TJ would have caught it otherwise.

Defensively I felt like the Vikings were very effective at shutting down Love and the Packers for the most part. Jacobs ground it out pretty effectively on early downs but the Vikings were able to limit big gainers on the ground and forced Love to beat them and he was unable to do much until late in the game. Granted, much like in the first game the Packers roared back and nearly snuck it out, but for the most part the Vikings defense did what they had to do.

Vikes had a couple of missed field goals and a botched catch on a punt. Neither of those cost them the game but either factor could have and likely might in the postseason.

I thought the Vikings showed everyone who they are and what they're capable of today against a very hyped up Packer team. I thought they outplayed the Packers pretty convincingly and showed they are a real threat against the best the NFC has to offer. Not that it matters what anyone outside the organization thinks about this team, but for those of us who have watched this team and past Vikings teams, the 2024 Minnesota Vikings are right up there with the best teams this organization has fielded over the years. I am confident that they will go into Detroit next Sunday and give the Lions everything they can handle and then some. Even if they don't win that game, this is a team that has a real chance to do something special this year.
The call on Smith was terrible. It's not easy making the calls especially in real time and for the most part they do a solid job. Of course missing some face mask against Darnold had me questioning them this year because that seems like an easy one to get right. We caught a break on that botched punt. Anything can happen when you do that. Will had the eye for the cross bar and goal post yesterday. Let's hope it was a one off and not a trend like we went through with Peg and every miss blocked right. Getting a win is the most important thing but beating them badly like 30 to 10 would have shut the media glorification down. Now it will be what a great comeback. Tillery had a nice game. That early strip of Jacobs was a great play. Tillery has nice movement.
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Awesome win, wish it wouldn't have gotten close in the 4th, ultimately doesn't matter. GB is one of the best teams in the NFC and we beat them twice this year. Awesome. We control everything in front of us, great spot to be in.

Sam played really well. Hope that Jones injury isn't anything major, Akers played well in reserve, we need Jones though to really make the offense click. Pace back was big too on defense. They got pressure all day, and limited Jacobs to a pedestrian day on the ground. Turner has flashed last few games too. Good time of the season for it.

Don't like to talk about officiating much, but damn, it's been bad this year.

Saw a stat last night that the Vikings and Lions game will be the first time ever that two teams, with at least 13 wins each, will meet up in the regular season. Obviously additional games makes that more likely now, than in years past.
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Good read from The Athletic: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/602633 ... s-packers/

Vikings stamp themselves as legitimate contenders with impressive victory over Packers

By Alec Lewis
Dec 29, 2024

MINNEAPOLIS — Most of the reporters had left. The locker room was mostly empty. And yet here they were, two veterans of the game, looking at each other and smiling.

Harrison Smith stood at his locker. Stephon Gilmore sat next to him, still wearing his purple jersey. They entered the league together in 2012 and respected each other from afar. Now they were together, laughing about how badly their legs ached from all the running they’d just done. But also embracing a moment late in a season they both have described as special.

Their Minnesota Vikings had just defeated an exceptional Green Bay Packers team 27-25 to improve to 14-2 on the season. The 14 wins mattered, but Sunday’s victory was bigger than that. Minnesota has one regular-season game remaining on the road against the Detroit Lions. If the Vikings win, they will secure the NFC North and the No. 1 seed.

That would be massive for a couple of reasons. The Vikings are 7-1 at home this season, and their roster is one of the oldest in the NFL. Secure a bye, and not only would they have a week to rest and prepare for their next opponent, but they would also get an opportunity to play inside this 66,000-seat boom box.

It was here inside U.S. Bank Stadium on Sunday that the Vikings made it clear they are a force to be reckoned with.

For weeks, if not months, people on the outside have refused to take this team seriously. It’s not that NFL analysts and pundits haven’t been impressed by what head coach Kevin O’Connell has done or quarterback Sam Darnold’s marvelous season. On the contrary. It’s more that Minnesota, which began the season with a projected Vegas win total of 6 1/2 games, has mostly been categorized as an exceptional story, a wholesome team composed of likable players capable of elite celebrations.

Some cited the Vikings’ record in one-score games (9-1), even though about 77 percent of NFL games are decided by one score or less. Others compared this Vikings season to the 2022 campaign in which the Vikings flamed out in the wild-card round, even though that Vikings team did not have a budding superstar in Jordan Addison or Brian Flores working wonders as the defensive coordinator.

But these Vikings are still fun. The story remains phenomenal. While Minnesota certainly has weaknesses, Sunday stamped this team with a sense of undeniability.

“We’re laying it on the line every single week with everything we absolutely have,” O’Connell said, “and the best part of it is all we need is all of what we are.”

Buried within those words are so many of O’Connell’s messages to the players from the spring. That they were talented enough. That they didn’t need external validation. That they would maximize everything they had because he wouldn’t allow anything less. The players trusted those words and watched them come to life. The 5-0 start verified O’Connell’s conviction, and their response to two midseason losses to the Lions and Los Angeles Rams only deepened the credibility of O’Connell’s position.

One of the primary reasons for the Vikings’ strength is the relationship between the coach and his players. O’Connell reiterated his belief by calling five passes in the Vikings’ final six plays Sunday when some coaches might have run the ball into a loaded box to eat up time and force the opposing coach to use his timeouts. O’Connell viewed that approach as a game-losing proposition. He believed Darnold would take care of the ball, properly delineating between prosperity and disaster. So, with his defense reeling late in the fourth quarter, he dialed up three rollouts.

Darnold dumped the first to fullback C.J. Ham, who galloped for a first down. Darnold threaded a pass to superstar receiver Justin Jefferson on the sideline, which set up the finale. Darnold then arced the ball above Packers edge rusher Kingsley Enagbare, and backup running back Cam Akers contorted his body to snag it inches from hitting the ground. The Vikings players were not surprised by O’Connell’s aggression so much as they were stoked.

“You want a coach who has all the confidence in the world in his football team,” linebacker Blake Cashman said.

Minnesota is also a window into what happens when you pair an elite play-calling head coach with a defensive coordinator who has the gall to do whatever it takes to win, even if whatever it takes sometimes backfires remarkably. Before Sunday, the Vikings had played man coverage on just 15.7 percent of their defensive snaps this season, according to TruMedia. Minnesota has mostly thrived by spinning the dial with different zone coverages and blitzes.

But early in the week, Flores told his charges Sunday’s approach would be different. He termed it a “mano a mano” affair. Prepare your hamstrings, Flores told the defensive backs.

As for the edge rushers, Jonathan Greenard and Andrew Van Ginkel knew that sacks were secondary. Keeping Packers quarterback Jordan Love in the pocket and not letting him roll to his right were the priorities. Sunday would depend on whether the Vikings could handle those two objectives. The Minnesota defenders did not question Flores’ plan.

“He watches the tape,” Gilmore said. “He knows what position to put us in. We’ve just got to make it work.”

According to Next Gen Stats, the Vikings used man coverage on 47.1 percent of the Packers’ dropbacks Sunday, including 11 of 13 on third and fourth downs.

Packers head coach Matt LaFleur admitted after the game that he did not expect man coverage early in the game and shouldered the blame for not adapting quickly enough. Green Bay had scored 30 points in five straight games, but on Sunday, the team’s wideouts failed to make plays and Love pogo-sticked anxiously in the pocket.

But it’s not just the defense that makes Minnesota a formidable opponent. The Vikings are talented and consistent on offense, too. Selling out against Jefferson (who had eight catches for 92 yards) has become a trendy strategy, yet it is regularly rendered fruitless because of how dynamic Addison has become. On Sunday, the second-year man executed a hitch route, then twirled into a wheel route and beat Packers safety Javon Bullard for a touchdown.

And when the Packers’ coverage floated with Addison, receiver Jalen Nailor sprung free, easily separating from defenders to haul in vital passes. Tight end T.J. Hockenson’s presence matters when the Vikings must convert the sticks, and running backs Aaron Jones and Akers are no slouches, either.

Those weapons are paired with a gritty offensive line and, maybe most importantly, a quarterback who’s operating the controls as well as anyone in the NFL. You would think the 33-of-43, 377-yard, three-touchdown stat line would tell the story, but not even that does justice to the degree of difficulty of some of Darnold’s anticipatory throws Sunday over the middle.

His teammates’ postgame reaction exemplifies Darnold’s role in all of this. While the former journeyman QB completed his media duties on the field, Greenard schemed up a plan: Everyone would grab a water bottle, and when Darnold walked in, they would douse him aggressively. At that moment, the players took the scene further, hoisting Darnold on their shoulders and chanting 50 Cent’s “Many Men.” Standing in the corner of the locker room, O’Connell watched and shook his head like a proud father.

It was an amazing snapshot, the perfect image of a team that enjoys being together as much as it enjoys its accomplishments. Smith and Gilmore shared that this is the secret sauce. It’s a chemistry and camaraderie that has garnered plenty of positive attention — but now demands respect.
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makila wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:14 am Saw a stat last night that the Vikings and Lions game will be the first time ever that two teams, with at least 13 wins each, will meet up in the regular season. Obviously additional games makes that more likely now, than in years past.
The sheer epicness (yes, I know that isn't a real word, but as a long-suffering Vikings fan I don't care at this point) and rarity of what we will witness next Sunday night is not something easily appreciated. If the Lions win tonight then the last game of an NFL regular season will be between 2 teams with a combined 28 wins, and those teams will play not just for their divisional crown, but for the first seed in their conference playoffs. It is a huge and unprecedented game that, had anyone told me would occur this year between these two teams, I would have literally bet them my house it wouldn't happen. Glad nobody bet me that or I'd be a very happy, but homeless, Vikings fan... :nono:
Packers head coach Matt LaFleur admitted after the game that he did not expect man coverage early in the game and shouldered the blame for not adapting quickly enough. Green Bay had scored 30 points in five straight games, but on Sunday, the team’s wideouts failed to make plays and Love pogo-sticked anxiously in the pocket.
I laughed out loud when I read this. Seriously. LaFleur waited until the 4th quarter to adjust to this? Is that what he's claiming?

LaFleur strikes me as very immature. He might be a good coach and a good game planner and such, but this is just pedantic of him.

Just admit your offense wasn't up to the task. If anything, you got desperate and took chances late and they paid off for the most part, but for the better part of the game your high-flyers were grounded by a better defense. How about just man up and admit that?
His teammates’ postgame reaction exemplifies Darnold’s role in all of this. While the former journeyman QB completed his media duties on the field, Greenard schemed up a plan: Everyone would grab a water bottle, and when Darnold walked in, they would douse him aggressively. At that moment, the players took the scene further, hoisting Darnold on their shoulders and chanting 50 Cent’s “Many Men.” Standing in the corner of the locker room, O’Connell watched and shook his head like a proud father.

It was an amazing snapshot, the perfect image of a team that enjoys being together as much as it enjoys its accomplishments. Smith and Gilmore shared that this is the secret sauce. It’s a chemistry and camaraderie that has garnered plenty of positive attention — but now demands respect.
Amazing. Inspiring. One thing that always impresses me about pro sports in particular is when a group of guys comes together like what we're seeing from the Vikings this year. Athletes in the pros tend to be glorified when they play well, and this leads to a lot of big egos and a tendency for guys to play more for themselves or their own stats than the larger team's success. Just look at guys like Aaron Rodgers and the Jets to see the result of that. I think even Kirk Cousins was a guy like that. He talked a good game when it came to the team and such, but in the end he was for and about himself, and when everyone on a team is for himself, those teams almost never achieve anything of note except the free agent contracts those players end up getting for themselves when they move to different teams or suck the cap space dry on the team they are already on.

And here we have a group of guys who are playing as well as anyone both individually and as a team and their concern is each other and the team's overall success. It's really refreshing to watch, and you know when this team is put to the test, they're going to stick together until the end no matter what comes.
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CharVike wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:17 am
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:24 pm Dang, y’all. I am absolutely loving this season.

Nine in a row. NINE. I don’t care how they get it done. They’re doing it, game after game. Yeah, a 17-point game got tight. But did you honestly expect the Packers to just lie down? This was a GREAT WIN, and if you can’t be happy about it, then I have to wonder if you’ll ever be happy.

And … Sam Darnold has proven himself beyond a shadow of a doubt in my eyes. He played his best when his best was required, today especially. Tell me how many of you had Sam for 4,100+ yards and 38 TDs on your Bingo card. I certainly didn’t. No matter whether the Vikings keep him long term, the man has earned my undying respect.

It’s all right in front of us. Beat the Lions, and it’s the No. 1 seed. A much-needed bye week. Home field throughout for the first time since 1998. It certainly won’t be easy. The Lions have been the class of the NFC all year. But I wouldn’t even rag never count this resilient group out.

Psyched for next week. SKOL!
Nobody saw that coming including the last team he spent a season with. On this board it was always what game does JJM take over. That still goes on now. Beating the Packers is always great but I certainly didn't feel great or happy when we couldn't hit an easy FG to put the game out of reach. That was the final nail in the coffin and we couldn't pound it in. I don't see how anyone can be happy with that. The final result yes everybody is happy and even I picked us to win before hand. But there was some stuff that can't happen if they want to stretch this to 13 in a row.
Brother, if you can’t find a way to be happy after that game, I would suggest large quantities of bourbon.

There is NO WAY anybody is going to bring me down from that. Was is close? Yeah. But a quality football team like the Packers isn’t going to just lie down and say, “Thank you, sir, may I have another?” They fought. But, just like in Green Bay, the Packers at no time had the ball with a chance to take the lead.

It’s a HUGE win over our hated rival during one of the best seasons in Vikings history. It’s all right there. The No. 1 seed and home field advantage, not to mention a bye week to rest up some guys who are dinged up. Celebrate a little! I promise it will have no bearing on the outcome of future games.
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