Seriously? The Wilfs kept a mediocre GM like Spielman around for over a decade. And they're going to have a knee jerk reaction & send KAM packing after 3 or 4 seasons?
Speilman actually had some nice drafts early on. You can't knock Jefferson or Darrisaw either. The team was headed in the right direction with Zim's early 70's pound the ball and play defense football. Once the Eagles destroyed us it was over for that existing core. Zim wanted his style which never would have produced a championship because his D couldn't play well when all the money was on the table. They collapsed in the playoffs. When we went into Philly and Kennum hit Diggs for the 1st score I said to myself we are going all the way. Foles sucks and we have the best D. This setup is perfect. Zim's D laid down and took the beating. It was over for that core. This team isn't close to getting to that point. The Lions are much better, the Packers have re-loaded plus changing the schemes and the Bears are building with the best QB in the draft. We are falling behind big time. That starts with bad drafting so far. That 3-0 game last year was an embarrassment. That night game against the Bears another embarrassment. Forget the excuses. That's what happened.
I thought Spielman was a borderline hack. And should have been shown the door with Leslie Frazier following the 2013 season. What he & Frazier did with the offensive personnel was a downright embarrassment. QBs were a joke. WR core was a joke. The overall RB core was pretty poor as well. Without Adrian Peterson...there was no offense.
But, enough of the stroll down bad memory lane. My point before was the Wilfs have shown themselves to be very patient. If the Vikings can be competitive the next two season & maybe even win a playoff game, my guess is the Wilfs extend KOC & KAM. If the team manages to be worse than 2023 then I would hope the Wilfs would consider making some kind of changes.
CharVike wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:17 pm
Speilman actually had some nice drafts early on. You can't knock Jefferson or Darrisaw either. The team was headed in the right direction with Zim's early 70's pound the ball and play defense football. Once the Eagles destroyed us it was over for that existing core. Zim wanted his style which never would have produced a championship because his D couldn't play well when all the money was on the table. They collapsed in the playoffs. When we went into Philly and Kennum hit Diggs for the 1st score I said to myself we are going all the way. Foles sucks and we have the best D. This setup is perfect. Zim's D laid down and took the beating. It was over for that core. This team isn't close to getting to that point. The Lions are much better, the Packers have re-loaded plus changing the schemes and the Bears are building with the best QB in the draft. We are falling behind big time. That starts with bad drafting so far. That 3-0 game last year was an embarrassment. That night game against the Bears another embarrassment. Forget the excuses. That's what happened.
I thought Spielman was a borderline hack. And should have been shown the door with Leslie Frazier following the 2013 season. What he & Frazier did with the offensive personnel was a downright embarrassment. QBs were a joke. WR core was a joke. The overall RB core was pretty poor as well. Without Adrian Peterson...there was no offense.
But, enough of the stroll down bad memory lane. My point before was the Wilfs have shown themselves to be very patient. If the Vikings can be competitive the next two season & maybe even win a playoff game, my guess is the Wilfs extend KOC & KAM. If the team manages to be worse than 2023 then I would hope the Wilfs would consider making some kind of changes.
You have a good memory. I agree with the waiting with Speilman went to far. That entire period was boring as hell for me. We can all pick horrible things with this team. I don't see us challenging for anything. When KAM missed with that first draft it set us back big time. Addison is a nice player but what's coming next. Bottom line this crew needs to go unless they do a full turn. Times running out for that. The NFC is weak and we had enough to challenge. With nothing at QB your done. That pisses me off. We are back trying to find a guy that can play. That's not an easy task. Plus your wasting every players career.
I thought Spielman was a borderline hack. And should have been shown the door with Leslie Frazier following the 2013 season. What he & Frazier did with the offensive personnel was a downright embarrassment. QBs were a joke. WR core was a joke. The overall RB core was pretty poor as well. Without Adrian Peterson...there was no offense.
But, enough of the stroll down bad memory lane. My point before was the Wilfs have shown themselves to be very patient. If the Vikings can be competitive the next two season & maybe even win a playoff game, my guess is the Wilfs extend KOC & KAM. If the team manages to be worse than 2023 then I would hope the Wilfs would consider making some kind of changes.
You have a good memory. I agree with the waiting with Speilman went to far. That entire period was boring as hell for me. We can all pick horrible things with this team. I don't see us challenging for anything. When KAM missed with that first draft it set us back big time. Addison is a nice player but what's coming next. Bottom line this crew needs to go unless they do a full turn. Times running out for that. The NFC is weak and we had enough to challenge. With nothing at QB your done. That pisses me off. We are back trying to find a guy that can play. That's not an easy task. Plus your wasting every players career.
I'm gonna let the season play itself out. I've been a Vikings' fan for almost forty years. There have been seasons that I expected the team to do well & they were a disappointment. And there were seasons that I expected the team to suck & they ended up in the playoffs. I really have no expectations with this current group. I'm hoping they surprise me...in a good way.