Vikings vs Pukers 9/11/22

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Re: Vikings vs Pukers 9/11/22

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CharVike wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:24 pm
StumpHunter wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:36 am

You mean after two weeks where the D averaged defending 12.5 drives per game? It certainly was a big issue, but they were still pretty average through those first 2 games. 15th in yards per drive, 19th in points per drive and they were forcing the 9th most 3 and outs.

Meanwhile the offense was 25th in yards per drive, 22nd in points per drive, was 2nd most in 3 and outs per drive and 25th in TOP.

At the rate the defense was giving up points in those first two games, if the offense had done its job better the D would have given up 21 PPG. Room for improvement sure, but considering the opposition in those first two games, it is better than most teams did against AZ and Cinci.

Perfect examples of how an offense can impact the D by putting them on the field too much. Good find.
I see 61 points allowed which is getting creamed regardless of the drive count. What hurt the O week 1 was Cook only getting 61 yards on 20 carries. We couldn't block. TOP was basically even. Week 2 the Cards were +4 minutes in TOP which certainly isn't overwhelming. The Packers played both teams and the D gave up 43 points total. One game they had a +15 minute in TOP which certainly helped. The other game basically even and they didn't fold.
Total TOP is affected by how long the other offense has the ball and is irrelevant to the discussion. TOP per drive actually tells you how long the offense kept the ball on average. The fact it was close for the Vikngs just means the D did a good job getting the opposition off the field.
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Re: Vikings vs Pukers 9/11/22

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StumpHunter wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:23 pm
CharVike wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:24 pm
I see 61 points allowed which is getting creamed regardless of the drive count. What hurt the O week 1 was Cook only getting 61 yards on 20 carries. We couldn't block. TOP was basically even. Week 2 the Cards were +4 minutes in TOP which certainly isn't overwhelming. The Packers played both teams and the D gave up 43 points total. One game they had a +15 minute in TOP which certainly helped. The other game basically even and they didn't fold.
Total TOP is affected by how long the other offense has the ball and is irrelevant to the discussion. TOP per drive actually tells you how long the offense kept the ball on average. The fact it was close for the Vikngs just means the D did a good job getting the opposition off the field.
I know what TOP is and this discussion was about the D getting tired because they had to defend too many drives. You won't get tired if your not on the field and that's where TOP fits. Giving up 400 yards passing and 34 points isn't a good job. They only gave up 3 points in QTR 4. They woke up at the end I guess.