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I'm voting no brainer here as well. Given the talent level from the 12th pick to the 29th and 30th pick isnt a massive drop off, I think we get more value here. I could see this offer being on the table given KC is now desperate for a top WR.

To me it's a no brainer to get 2 very good players that will be starting soon. Also, with the way the WR market is cashing in... We need to clear room for JJ. So looking for top talent to replace higher contract players in very near future is very real.
Pass rushing OLB, CB, FS, WR.
Perfect scenario, imo, would be:
29 DE/OLB Ojabo
30 CB Gordon
46 WR Metchie

What does a 23 midrounder mean? 3rd cool. 4th or later I don't even figure it into the equation. 12 for 29 and 30 sounds about right. Doesn't favor either team. I voted hesitant, but yes. Funny how we've mostly all been whining about trading down for years. (not me) and now we're voting in favor of doing just that.

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:40 am What does a 23 midrounder mean? 3rd cool. 4th or later I don't even figure it into the equation. 12 for 29 and 30 sounds about right. Doesn't favor either team. I voted hesitant, but yes. Funny how we've mostly all been whining about trading down for years. (not me) and now we're voting in favor of doing just that.

'23 mid rounder as in a 3rd or 4th yes.

Yes trading down this year is a smart move I think given how near-even the first round is. Especially given the fact that there are a record number of teams with multiple first round picks this year and chances are those picks will be on the table come draft night. Also the possibility of gaining an extra first round pick next year to possibly bring in Kirk's successor.

I think landing at 29th and 30th puts us outside of the Game Changers in this draft. We would likely have to piviot and draft individuals that are not our key positions of needs. Best case scenario we end up with Elam and Travis Jones.

YikesVikes wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:48 pm I think landing at 29th and 30th puts us outside of the Game Changers in this draft. We would likely have to piviot and draft individuals that are not our key positions of needs. Best case scenario we end up with Elam and Travis Jones.

Yeah good point and interesting take

Not a chance. Nothing left at those two spots.

CharVike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:37 am Not a chance. Nothing left at those two spots.

Agreed, really hoping Stingiey falls to us at 12, if not I feel there are still a handful of star play makers left, however I’d stay away from any corners but sauce or stingley at 12.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:07 pm

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:40 am What does a 23 midrounder mean? 3rd cool. 4th or later I don't even figure it into the equation. 12 for 29 and 30 sounds about right. Doesn't favor either team. I voted hesitant, but yes. Funny how we've mostly all been whining about trading down for years. (not me) and now we're voting in favor of doing just that.

'23 mid rounder as in a 3rd or 4th yes.

Yes trading down this year is a smart move I think given how near-even the first round is. Especially given the fact that there are a record number of teams with multiple first round picks this year and chances are those picks will be on the table come draft night. Also the possibility of gaining an extra first round pick next year to possibly bring in Kirk's successor.

A 4th definitely not. A 3rd hesitant, but yes. I honestly don't know enough about this years draft to say whether there is a big difference of talent from 12 to 29-30.

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:26 am
A 4th definitely not. A 3rd hesitant, but yes.

I guess I'm not sure why its a definite no for a 4th but a yes for a 3rd? Is there that much of a difference? There's even less of a gap between the 3rd and 4th rounds talent wise.

I honestly don't know enough about this years draft to say whether there is a big difference of talent from 12 to 29-30.

I dont believe there is a big difference. Most analysts feel the same way

allday1991 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:00 am

CharVike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:37 am Not a chance. Nothing left at those two spots.

Agreed, really hoping Stingiey falls to us at 12, if not I feel there are still a handful of star play makers left, however I’d stay away from any corners but sauce or stingley at 12.

There will be a good player at 12 but it won't be a CB.

CharVike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:59 pm

allday1991 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:00 am

Agreed, really hoping Stingiey falls to us at 12, if not I feel there are still a handful of star play makers left, however I’d stay away from any corners but sauce or stingley at 12.

There will be a good player at 12 but it won't be a CB.

I'd be interested in McDuffie but probably not at 12. I'd be after him if I traded down.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:02 pm

CharVike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:59 pm
There will be a good player at 12 but it won't be a CB.

I'd be interested in McDuffie but probably not at 12. I'd be after him if I traded down.

I’d be seriously upset with McDuffie at 12 if we trade back that’s fine but even then, I like Booth better.

I might be in the minority, but I am not as sold on Sauce as so many. My concern is the burst/quickness. He is fast, but I don't see the quickness. He is long which I like a lot. Xavier Rhodes and Jalen Ramsey were long, but twitchy. I am a big fan of Sauce's defensive length. However, a shutdown CB needs elite "twitch". I think Stingley has it. McDuffie to me is Antoine Winfield.
I am hoping for an elite interior DL ! I actually want Jordan Davis at 12. To me, it is the most important position in football, besides QB. Interior pass rushers completely change games.

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:40 am What does a 23 midrounder mean? 3rd cool. 4th or later I don't even figure it into the equation. 12 for 29 and 30 sounds about right. Doesn't favor either team. I voted hesitant, but yes. Funny how we've mostly all been whining about trading down for years. (not me) and now we're voting in favor of doing just that.

I think the reason we’re more agreeable to trading down is that we’re not talking about trading down for a bunch of sixth-rounders.

After 15 years of Trader Rick, giving up one first-rounder for two sounds pretty good.