StumpHunter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:04 pm
I am not projecting anything, just using common sense. You however are comparing children playing for fun to adults playing for millions. It isn't the same, and while culture does matter, that culture won 13 games and went to the NFCCG after losing its starting QB for the second season in a row.
Dude, come on. First of all, I'm referring to a very competitive high school team and it's culture with one coach vs. another, not 5 year olds. Second, I dont understand why you think money has anything to do with it. Look at teams that win it all. The culture is great in every single one of those locker rooms. The relationships between coaches and players is great. Look at the bond McVay has had with his players. Players that arent even on the offensive side of the ball like Donald, Miller, Ramsey, etc. Look at the relationship McVay had with Stafford. It was second to none. Are you going to tell me Mike Zimmer had those types of relationships with multiple players on his team, let alone Kirk Cousins? His own damn middle linebacker threw him under the bus when he was fired for goodness sake.
I literally couldnt care less about what he did in 2017. This league is all about what you've done for me lately. And Mike Zimmer has crumbled this team and this locker room the last two seasons especially. I mean there was an article on how former players of his were extremely frustrated that he made his son Adam Zimmer a DC when Andre Patterson was 10 times more deserving of it. And this is just the FORMER players that were ticked about that happening. Imagine how the guys that were still on the team felt.
On top of all that, Zim and Spielman were having pis#ing matches with each other. You're going to tell me that had no effect on the locker room either? It had no effect on who Zimmer was and wasnt putting on the field? Come on dude. Stop defending this man, it makes you look foolish.
This article is saying that he has to go to this extra effort to prove he is a leader, which proves he isn't one.
Again what you are saying is assumption. You are literally downplaying a positive meeting our QB had just because you cant stand him. This is what kills me with you. ANYTHING positive this guy does..... has this meeting, wins us a game, throws the offense on his back while his defense is taking a dump, comes from behind to win us a game, wins a game in OT, beats the saints in the playoffs, etc. And all you do in every single one of these situations is discredit him. Like yeah, there are times to get on him for certain things but it is LITERALLY everything with you. You will not give this guy one single ounce of credit for anything positive he does. Has there been negative? Sure. Does he deserve criticism? Sure. But I swear your ultimate goal in life is to make sure Kirk Cousins receives zero credit from any Vikings fan for anything he does on and off the field.
You yourself said he needed to feel like his HC wanted him to take charge in order to really start to be a leader, which again, proves he isn't a leader.
....this is the classic "Stump twisting my words around to fit his argument". I literally never said what you are saying above. This is what you do when you know you have no argument. You reach and manipulate peoples words and act like you actually have an argument and try and create your own narrative. A for effort I guess.