Jeff Gladney arrested

[VikingLord]

There's what's expedient/convenient/profitable and there's what's right. It's possible for the same decision to be all four on the other hand the right decision might be NOT taking a person's livelihood away.

Who took Gladney's livelihood away? Gladney by his actions or the Vikings by theirs in response to his actions?

Waiting for a conviction in a court of law rather than a court of public opinion and even then let the court dole out the punishment not the NFL. Why does the NFL feel it's on them to be an agent of punishment? It goes back to the first three.

I get the conviction argument, but not every crime, even well-documented ones, lead to justice and a conviction. Just because someone escapes conviction doesn't mean they are innocent or complied with their contractual obligations to the rest of the team to behave in ways that are not detrimental to the team.

Gladney was indicted on evidence that made it out into the public domain. Who knows if that is even all the evidence against him that the Vikings internally are aware of? If there is a real question of his culpability and he could be truly innocent of what he is charged with I agree with you, but that isn't the case here.

And even if it were, Gladney is free to go and sign elsewhere now. His livelihood isn't controlled by the Vikings. Let's see who else steps up to claim him while he works through the legal process.

Take Gladney out of this and just say abuser X has children Y with Victim Z who is a stay at home mom. X is punished by no longer being allowed to work. X and Z get separated or divorced, but now X no longer has finances to provide for Y who grow up in poverty.

In your hypothetical I'd say Y made a poor choice of partner and is paying the price for that choice along with the children he/she decided to have with X. It sucks for them, but choices have consequences.

But if you're implying that because punishing X creates hardship for others besides X and so X should escape punishment, I'm not sure how you avoid complete chaos in society. X has choices too. If X makes choices that violate the law, X has to experience the consequences of those choices. Hopefully once X has paid the price for his/her actions X gets a chance to do better. I think that is fair to everyone involved, but avoiding punishment for illegal behavior shifts the burden of those consequences from the offender to the larger society, with predictable results for that society over time.

[VikingsVictorious]

There's what's expedient/convenient/profitable and there's what's right. It's possible for the same decision to be all four on the other hand the right decision might be NOT taking a person's livelihood away.

Who took Gladney's livelihood away? Gladney by his actions or the Vikings by theirs in response to his actions?

Waiting for a conviction in a court of law rather than a court of public opinion and even then let the court dole out the punishment not the NFL. Why does the NFL feel it's on them to be an agent of punishment? It goes back to the first three.

I get the conviction argument, but not every crime, even well-documented ones, lead to justice and a conviction. Just because someone escapes conviction doesn't mean they are innocent or complied with their contractual obligations to the rest of the team to behave in ways that are not detrimental to the team.

Gladney was indicted on evidence that made it out into the public domain. Who knows if that is even all the evidence against him that the Vikings internally are aware of? If there is a real question of his culpability and he could be truly innocent of what he is charged with I agree with you, but that isn't the case here.

And even if it were, Gladney is free to go and sign elsewhere now. His livelihood isn't controlled by the Vikings. Let's see who else steps up to claim him while he works through the legal process.

Take Gladney out of this and just say abuser X has children Y with Victim Z who is a stay at home mom. X is punished by no longer being allowed to work. X and Z get separated or divorced, but now X no longer has finances to provide for Y who grow up in poverty.

In your hypothetical I'd say Y made a poor choice of partner and is paying the price for that choice along with the children he/she decided to have with X. It sucks for them, but choices have consequences.

But if you're implying that because punishing X creates hardship for others besides X and so X should escape punishment, I'm not sure how you avoid complete chaos in society. X has choices too. If X makes choices that violate the law, X has to experience the consequences of those choices. Hopefully once X has paid the price for his/her actions X gets a chance to do better. I think that is fair to everyone involved, but avoiding punishment for illegal behavior shifts the burden of those consequences from the offender to the larger society, with predictable results for that society over time.

Viking Lord I appreciate your thoughts, but I'm getting very worn out going over this. There is no correct answer because whatever we come up with will have flaws. Let me simply say that my opinion is the courts and the courts alone should handle discipline (better word).

People's right to make a living at what they're good at should not be taken away unless it creates some risk to safety. The NFL's profitability is not a risk to safety. I do the XYZ scenario to show how taking away a person's livelihood can have far reaching effects so we as a society should consider those effects before imposing discipline. Punishment is more of a you did something bad so now were going to do something bad to you. Counterproductive. X should be disciplined in some way but only by the court and the court should also consider the effects on the innocent and consider probation and other alternatives when practical.

[makila]

Vikings' Jeff Gladney found not guilty of assaulting woman in 2021: Reports

By The Athletic Staff

March 10, 2022Updated 4:07 PM CST

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Vikings' Jeff Gladney found not guilty of assaulting woman in 2021: Reports.

Former Vikings cornerback Jeff Gladney was found not guilty of assaulting a woman last year, according to multiple reports. After he was charged with assault, he was released by Minnesota and didn't play a snap in the NFL last season.

Gladney, who started 15 of the 16 games he played for the Vikings during his rookie season, had 81 tackles and a forced fumble that year. With his case resolved, it's likely he'll draw interest from teams looking to bolster their depth at cornerback.

Gladney, 25, turned himself in last April after a warrant was issued for his arrest for family violence assault, a third-degree felony. A woman identified as Jane Doe filed a civil lawsuit against Gladney on July 26, saying that Gladney physically assaulted, beat and held her against her will "for several hours" on April 1, then attempted to "bribe, threaten, blackmail and manipulate" her not to speak about the incident.

"Obviously, allegations like these are very disturbing and something that’s concerning to us as owners and to our organization," team president Mark Wilf said last year.

Gladney was drafted by the Vikings in the first round (31st overall) in 2020. A native of New Boston, Texas, Gladney went to college at TCU in Fort Worth.

[VikingsVictorious]

Gladney not guilty. I hope he finds employment in the NFL.

[fiestavike]

Wish teams would stop acting like players are presumed guilty for PR purposes.

[allday1991]

Gladney not guilty. I hope he finds employment in the NFL.

I’ve been on the other side of this, it’s hard to get your character back even if the court sided with you. The majority of people in this world will white knight for woman with little knowledge of what there actually defending. Heck Johnny Depp was cleared years ago and is still shunned by Hollywood. Just look at the pure out rage when this was first announced, think nearly as many people are outrage someone lost out on there job and a multi million dollar contract over a lie? The woman should face jail time her self for the damage caused.

[fiestavike]

Gladney not guilty. I hope he finds employment in the NFL.

I’ve been on the other side of this, it’s hard to get your character back even if the court sided with you. The majority of people in this world will white knight for woman with little knowledge of what there actually defending. Heck Johnny Depp was cleared years ago and is still shunned by Hollywood. Just look at the pure out rage when this was first announced, think nearly as many people are outrage someone lost out on there job and a multi million dollar contract over a lie? The woman should face jail time her self for the damage caused.

The way the NFL has been handling these issues makes the accusation alone even more devastating, and encourages bringing false charges and practicing extortion, as I'm sure many Many MANY accusation, including false accusations, get settled in the dark.

[VikingLord]

Gladney not guilty. I hope he finds employment in the NFL.

I’ve been on the other side of this, it’s hard to get your character back even if the court sided with you. The majority of people in this world will white knight for woman with little knowledge of what there actually defending. Heck Johnny Depp was cleared years ago and is still shunned by Hollywood. Just look at the pure out rage when this was first announced, think nearly as many people are outrage someone lost out on there job and a multi million dollar contract over a lie? The woman should face jail time her self for the damage caused.

A DA will not criminally prosecute based solely on an allegation, nor does a not guilty verdict mean Gladney did not do something wrong. It means only that the jury did not find enough evidence to convict him on the specific charges levied by the prosecutor's office.

If there is evidence the accuser fabricated the story or lied, she should be prosecuted. However, I've not seen anything to suggest that in this case.

Hopefully Gladney can get his life back on track. There is enough need at CB in the NFL where he'll get that opportunity I suspect. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.

[fiestavike]

I’ve been on the other side of this, it’s hard to get your character back even if the court sided with you. The majority of people in this world will white knight for woman with little knowledge of what there actually defending. Heck Johnny Depp was cleared years ago and is still shunned by Hollywood. Just look at the pure out rage when this was first announced, think nearly as many people are outrage someone lost out on there job and a multi million dollar contract over a lie? The woman should face jail time her self for the damage caused.

A DA will not criminally prosecute based solely on an allegation, nor does a not guilty verdict mean Gladney did not do something wrong. It means only that the jury did not find enough evidence to convict him on the specific charges levied by the prosecutor's office.

If there is evidence the accuser fabricated the story or lied, she should be prosecuted. However, I've not seen anything to suggest that in this case.

Hopefully Gladney can get his life back on track. There is enough need at CB in the NFL where he'll get that opportunity I suspect. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.

Of course, a not guilty verdict does not necessarily mean one did nothing wrong. In a sense, Gladney can never clear his name given the accusation and the decision by the DA. But you have a wildly unrealistic amount of confidence in District Attorneys. There is a huge financial incentive to level accusations on the part of female accusers, and a huge financial incentive to settle them on the part of rich and famous athletes. The NFL acts like they are embarrassed of their players and assumes they are guilty for the sake of the leagues PR.

You are already going to lose your good name, now you are going to lose a couple years in your very short window as an NFL athlete, and add in millions of dollars in lost income. I am ashamed of the Vikings and the way they have handled these situations over the last several years.

[allday1991]

I’ve been on the other side of this, it’s hard to get your character back even if the court sided with you. The majority of people in this world will white knight for woman with little knowledge of what there actually defending. Heck Johnny Depp was cleared years ago and is still shunned by Hollywood. Just look at the pure out rage when this was first announced, think nearly as many people are outrage someone lost out on there job and a multi million dollar contract over a lie? The woman should face jail time her self for the damage caused.

A DA will not criminally prosecute based solely on an allegation, nor does a not guilty verdict mean Gladney did not do something wrong. It means only that the jury did not find enough evidence to convict him on the specific charges levied by the prosecutor's office.

If there is evidence the accuser fabricated the story or lied, she should be prosecuted. However, I've not seen anything to suggest that in this case.

Hopefully Gladney can get his life back on track. There is enough need at CB in the NFL where he'll get that opportunity I suspect. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.

Trust me, I know the difference between not proven and not guilty. Did you know if the allegedly assaulted woman told one her friends that she was assaulted that the courts consider that substantial evidence and that person now a witness even know they never physically witnessed anything.

[J. Kapp 11]

A DA will not criminally prosecute based solely on an allegation, nor does a not guilty verdict mean Gladney did not do something wrong. It means only that the jury did not find enough evidence to convict him on the specific charges levied by the prosecutor's office.

If there is evidence the accuser fabricated the story or lied, she should be prosecuted. However, I've not seen anything to suggest that in this case.

Hopefully Gladney can get his life back on track. There is enough need at CB in the NFL where he'll get that opportunity I suspect. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.

Of course, a not guilty verdict does not necessarily mean one did nothing wrong. In a sense, Gladney can never clear his name given the accusation and the decision by the DA. But you have a wildly unrealistic amount of confidence in District Attorneys. There is a huge financial incentive to level accusations on the part of female accusers, and a huge financial incentive to settle them on the part of rich and famous athletes. The NFL acts like they are embarrassed of their players and assumes they are guilty for the sake of the leagues PR.

You are already going to lose your good name, now you are going to lose a couple years in your very short window as an NFL athlete, and add in millions of dollars in lost income. I am ashamed of the Vikings and the way they have handled these situations over the last several years.

Total agreement with you here.

A Dallas grand jury indicted Gladney, meaning there was sufficient evidence to hold him over for trial. But it didn't mean he was guilty. As a matter of fact, after what we hope was a fair trial, the jury found him not guilty. It was up to the prosecution to make its case beyond a reasonable doubt, and for whatever reason, the prosecution failed to do that. That's all anybody needs to know or presume. Period.

Yet here we are, with comments like "that doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong."

In other words, if somebody is accused of a crime, he MUST be guilty of SOMETHING. I won't apologize for saying that's just wrong. It's the "me too" movement run amok. Yes, we should take allegations of violence of any kind against women VERY seriously. But we shouldn't automatically presume guilt — of ANYTHING — until it's proven. This isn't the Soviet Union.

Put the shoe on the other foot. What if you were accused of a crime you didn't commit? Is it OK for everybody to assume you did it, even if you were found not guilty? After all, you were charged, so you must be guilty of something, right?

Gladney was charged and indicted. He went to trial. He was exonerated. We all need to let it go.

[VikingLord]

Yet here we are, with comments like "that doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong."

Why, in your estimation, is Jeff Gladney, a former 1st round pick of the Vikings playing at a position of dire need for the Vikings not a Viking anymore, or, for that matter, not in the NFL right now despite being drafted just two years ago?

His employer terminated him. He was charged with a crime and ended up standing trial for it.

If Gladney did nothing wrong, is the world just out to get the guy? If so, why him?

In other words, if somebody is accused of a crime, he MUST be guilty of SOMETHING. I won't apologize for saying that's just wrong. It's the "me too" movement run amok.

Is that what's wrong then in your eyes? The "me too" movement is at fault for Jeff Gladney's actions that led to his situation and not Jeff Gladney?

Yes, we should take allegations of violence of any kind against women VERY seriously. But we shouldn't automatically presume guilt — of ANYTHING — until it's proven. This isn't the Soviet Union.

That someone is not legally responsible for something is not the same as bearing no moral responsibility for that same something.

Put the shoe on the other foot. What if you were accused of a crime you didn't commit? Is it OK for everybody to assume you did it, even if you were found not guilty? After all, you were charged, so you must be guilty of something, right?

Are such accusations a common occurrence in your experience? Personally experienced or seen or heard this happening very often?

Gladney was charged and indicted. He went to trial. He was exonerated. We all need to let it go.

False accusations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the woman in civil court to both establish the fact of that and to get his good name back.

False prosecutions do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the DA for the same reasons as listed above.

False terminations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the Vikings for wrongful termination and at least get his lost wages back.

Blackballing in a given profession does happen.

If that turns out to be the case here, Gladney should sue the league ala Colin Kaepernick for illegal hiring practices and violating the terms of the CBA.

Something tells me none of those are or will be true, however, and Gladney won't be suing anyone for anything because he realizes he's lucky to have escaped with his freedom.

But we don't live under Communism, I guess, so at least we can all be thankful that Jeff Gladney has those means of recourse to restore his good name and reputation.

One last thing, and it's an important point here.

Interesting that you said nothing about the statement that the woman be arrested and prosecuted, apparently for her decision to contact and cooperate with the police, who then investigated this, turned it over to the district attorney who had a grand jury look at the evidence and decided to proceed with a criminal prosecution based on that evidence. You saved your outrage instead for the mere observation that where there is smoke, there's usually fire.

I truly do wish Jeff Gladney well and I hope he recovers from this and goes on to have a good career and a good life. He is clear of the charges, and that should be enough for him to resume his pro career.

But if my wife, my mother, my daughter, or my sisters ever made a claim like this against someone, you'd better believe I would believe them.

[VikingsVictorious]

Yet here we are, with comments like "that doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong."

Why, in your estimation, is Jeff Gladney, a former 1st round pick of the Vikings playing at a position of dire need for the Vikings not a Viking anymore, or, for that matter, not in the NFL right now despite being drafted just two years ago?

His employer terminated him. He was charged with a crime and ended up standing trial for it.

If Gladney did nothing wrong, is the world just out to get the guy? If so, why him?

In other words, if somebody is accused of a crime, he MUST be guilty of SOMETHING. I won't apologize for saying that's just wrong. It's the "me too" movement run amok.

Is that what's wrong then in your eyes? The "me too" movement is at fault for Jeff Gladney's actions that led to his situation and not Jeff Gladney?

Yes, we should take allegations of violence of any kind against women VERY seriously. But we shouldn't automatically presume guilt — of ANYTHING — until it's proven. This isn't the Soviet Union.

That someone is not legally responsible for something is not the same as bearing no moral responsibility for that same something.

Put the shoe on the other foot. What if you were accused of a crime you didn't commit? Is it OK for everybody to assume you did it, even if you were found not guilty? After all, you were charged, so you must be guilty of something, right?

Are such accusations a common occurrence in your experience? Personally experienced or seen or heard this happening very often?

Gladney was charged and indicted. He went to trial. He was exonerated. We all need to let it go.

False accusations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the woman in civil court to both establish the fact of that and to get his good name back.

False prosecutions do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the DA for the same reasons as listed above.

False terminations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the Vikings for wrongful termination and at least get his lost wages back.

Blackballing in a given profession does happen.

If that turns out to be the case here, Gladney should sue the league ala Colin Kaepernick for illegal hiring practices and violating the terms of the CBA.

Something tells me none of those are or will be true, however, and Gladney won't be suing anyone for anything because he realizes he's lucky to have escaped with his freedom.

But we don't live under Communism, I guess, so at least we can all be thankful that Jeff Gladney has those means of recourse to restore his good name and reputation.

One last thing, and it's an important point here.

Interesting that you said nothing about the statement that the woman be arrested and prosecuted, apparently for her decision to contact and cooperate with the police, who then investigated this, turned it over to the district attorney who had a grand jury look at the evidence and decided to proceed with a criminal prosecution based on that evidence. You saved your outrage instead for the mere observation that where there is smoke, there's usually fire.

I truly do wish Jeff Gladney well and I hope he recovers from this and goes on to have a good career and a good life. He is clear of the charges, and that should be enough for him to resume his pro career.

But if my wife, my mother, my daughter, or my sisters ever made a claim like this against someone, you'd better believe I would believe them.

Because those are people you know and trust their character. You will continue believing them regardless of the findings of a court of law.

[J. Kapp 11]

Yet here we are, with comments like "that doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong."

Why, in your estimation, is Jeff Gladney, a former 1st round pick of the Vikings playing at a position of dire need for the Vikings not a Viking anymore, or, for that matter, not in the NFL right now despite being drafted just two years ago?

His employer terminated him. He was charged with a crime and ended up standing trial for it.

If Gladney did nothing wrong, is the world just out to get the guy? If so, why him?

In other words, if somebody is accused of a crime, he MUST be guilty of SOMETHING. I won't apologize for saying that's just wrong. It's the "me too" movement run amok.

Is that what's wrong then in your eyes? The "me too" movement is at fault for Jeff Gladney's actions that led to his situation and not Jeff Gladney?

Yes, we should take allegations of violence of any kind against women VERY seriously. But we shouldn't automatically presume guilt — of ANYTHING — until it's proven. This isn't the Soviet Union.

That someone is not legally responsible for something is not the same as bearing no moral responsibility for that same something.

Put the shoe on the other foot. What if you were accused of a crime you didn't commit? Is it OK for everybody to assume you did it, even if you were found not guilty? After all, you were charged, so you must be guilty of something, right?

Are such accusations a common occurrence in your experience? Personally experienced or seen or heard this happening very often?

Gladney was charged and indicted. He went to trial. He was exonerated. We all need to let it go.

False accusations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the woman in civil court to both establish the fact of that and to get his good name back.

False prosecutions do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the DA for the same reasons as listed above.

False terminations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the Vikings for wrongful termination and at least get his lost wages back.

Blackballing in a given profession does happen.

If that turns out to be the case here, Gladney should sue the league ala Colin Kaepernick for illegal hiring practices and violating the terms of the CBA.

Something tells me none of those are or will be true, however, and Gladney won't be suing anyone for anything because he realizes he's lucky to have escaped with his freedom.

But we don't live under Communism, I guess, so at least we can all be thankful that Jeff Gladney has those means of recourse to restore his good name and reputation.

One last thing, and it's an important point here.

Interesting that you said nothing about the statement that the woman be arrested and prosecuted, apparently for her decision to contact and cooperate with the police, who then investigated this, turned it over to the district attorney who had a grand jury look at the evidence and decided to proceed with a criminal prosecution based on that evidence. You saved your outrage instead for the mere observation that where there is smoke, there's usually fire.

I truly do wish Jeff Gladney well and I hope he recovers from this and goes on to have a good career and a good life. He is clear of the charges, and that should be enough for him to resume his pro career.

But if my wife, my mother, my daughter, or my sisters ever made a claim like this against someone, you'd better believe I would believe them.

I’m not getting into this with you.

Suffice it to say, I’ve had friends, teachers in particular, whose lives were ruined by unsubstantiated allegations. When my own son couldn’t get a teaching job after college and switched careers, I quietly celebrated because of what I’ve seen. Outright lies that ruined the lives of good men.

Bottom line, when someone is acquitted, it’s over. That’s how I see it.

[VikingsVictorious]

Why, in your estimation, is Jeff Gladney, a former 1st round pick of the Vikings playing at a position of dire need for the Vikings not a Viking anymore, or, for that matter, not in the NFL right now despite being drafted just two years ago?

His employer terminated him. He was charged with a crime and ended up standing trial for it.

If Gladney did nothing wrong, is the world just out to get the guy? If so, why him?



Is that what's wrong then in your eyes? The "me too" movement is at fault for Jeff Gladney's actions that led to his situation and not Jeff Gladney?



That someone is not legally responsible for something is not the same as bearing no moral responsibility for that same something.



Are such accusations a common occurrence in your experience? Personally experienced or seen or heard this happening very often?



False accusations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the woman in civil court to both establish the fact of that and to get his good name back.

False prosecutions do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the DA for the same reasons as listed above.

False terminations do happen.

If that was the case here, Gladney should sue the Vikings for wrongful termination and at least get his lost wages back.

Blackballing in a given profession does happen.

If that turns out to be the case here, Gladney should sue the league ala Colin Kaepernick for illegal hiring practices and violating the terms of the CBA.

Something tells me none of those are or will be true, however, and Gladney won't be suing anyone for anything because he realizes he's lucky to have escaped with his freedom.

But we don't live under Communism, I guess, so at least we can all be thankful that Jeff Gladney has those means of recourse to restore his good name and reputation.

One last thing, and it's an important point here.

Interesting that you said nothing about the statement that the woman be arrested and prosecuted, apparently for her decision to contact and cooperate with the police, who then investigated this, turned it over to the district attorney who had a grand jury look at the evidence and decided to proceed with a criminal prosecution based on that evidence. You saved your outrage instead for the mere observation that where there is smoke, there's usually fire.

I truly do wish Jeff Gladney well and I hope he recovers from this and goes on to have a good career and a good life. He is clear of the charges, and that should be enough for him to resume his pro career.

But if my wife, my mother, my daughter, or my sisters ever made a claim like this against someone, you'd better believe I would believe them.

I’m not getting into this with you.

Suffice it to say, I’ve had friends, teachers in particular, whose lives were ruined by unsubstantiated allegations. When my own son couldn’t get a teaching job after college and switched careers, I quietly celebrated because of what I’ve seen. Outright lies that ruined the lives of good men.

Bottom line, when someone is acquitted, it’s over. That’s how I see it.

I'm with you.