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Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Vikings selected TCU CB Jeff Gladney with the No. 31 overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.
A four-year starter at TCU, Gladney (5’10/191) earned second-team All-Big 12 honors in 2018 after allowing an elite 4.7 yards per target before taking a step back in his final season (7.2 yards per target) as a perceived one-year wonder. An instinctual player with plus athleticism — according to the Horned Frogs' training staff, Gladney squats 620 pounds, benches 400, and hang cleans 400-plus — he made a career in shadowing a majority of the nation's top wideouts as one of only two FBS players with at least 15 passes defended in each of the last two seasons. Still, the red flags are there: He'll be 23 on draft night, tore his ACL and LCL in his senior year of high school, underwent meniscus surgery this past offseason, and was scratched from the 2020 Senior Bowl due to a sore knee. He also disappointed at Indy's combine, running a 4.48 40 (he clocked at 4.34 last offseason) and sluggish 7.26 three-cone (13th-percentile) in front of league execs. Gladney may be forced into a sub-package role at the next level given his size, but he has the tracking skills and traits to eventually man the perimeter as a No. 2.
I dont entirely agree with this write up. Something about this kid I think he's going to be a special player. Plus we gained a 4th and 5th which was brilliant trade back IMO. Those picks could be gold in a Trent Williams trade. Hopefully we move up tonight and take another highly touted player
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:15 pm
by fiestavike
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 pm
Vikings selected TCU CB Jeff Gladney with the No. 31 overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.
A four-year starter at TCU, Gladney (5’10/191) earned second-team All-Big 12 honors in 2018 after allowing an elite 4.7 yards per target before taking a step back in his final season (7.2 yards per target) as a perceived one-year wonder. An instinctual player with plus athleticism — according to the Horned Frogs' training staff, Gladney squats 620 pounds, benches 400, and hang cleans 400-plus — he made a career in shadowing a majority of the nation's top wideouts as one of only two FBS players with at least 15 passes defended in each of the last two seasons. Still, the red flags are there: He'll be 23 on draft night, tore his ACL and LCL in his senior year of high school, underwent meniscus surgery this past offseason, and was scratched from the 2020 Senior Bowl due to a sore knee. He also disappointed at Indy's combine, running a 4.48 40 (he clocked at 4.34 last offseason) and sluggish 7.26 three-cone (13th-percentile) in front of league execs. Gladney may be forced into a sub-package role at the next level given his size, but he has the tracking skills and traits to eventually man the perimeter as a No. 2.
I dont entirely agree with this write up. Something about this kid I think he's going to be a special player. Plus we gained a 4th and 5th which was brilliant trade back IMO. Those picks could be gold in a Trent Williams trade. Hopefully we move up tonight and take another highly touted player
If we don't move up from 58 (where we should get a very good player) I could see us moving up several times before the 4th round is out to target specific players.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:15 pm
by fiestavike
I really like his demeanor. That's not going to make him an NFL star, but I think its not insignificant.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:26 pm
by RandyMoss84
I wanted Gladney so I am very happy with his pick, will he be starting besides Hill or Hughes?
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:27 pm
by Maelstrom88
At first I wasn't sure about him because of his height but after watching him a bit and reading up on his pass break up stats and ability to get his hands on the ball I'm more sold. I like what I see about his toughness, willingness to get dirty, and scrappy demeanor. Seems like he will add attitude to this secondary.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:39 pm
by RandyMoss84
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:27 pm
At first I wasn't sure about him because of his height but after watching him a bit and reading up on his pass break up stats and ability to get his hands on the ball I'm more sold. I like what I see about his toughness, willingness to get dirty, and scrappy demeanor. Seems like he will add attitude to this secondary.
He is so great at pass break ups, that is why I wanted him
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:49 pm
by IIsweet
He played all season and did the combine with a torn meniscus.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:52 pm
by VikingsVictorious
fiestavike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:15 pm
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 pm
I dont entirely agree with this write up. Something about this kid I think he's going to be a special player. Plus we gained a 4th and 5th which was brilliant trade back IMO. Those picks could be gold in a Trent Williams trade. Hopefully we move up tonight and take another highly touted player
If we don't move up from 58 (where we should get a very good player) I could see us moving up several times before the 4th round is out to target specific players.
I'm very much in favor of NOT moving up from 58. There are so many great players that a few will be available there. What I want is for us to move up from one of our third round picks and trade the other with Reiff for Williams.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:54 pm
by VikingsVictorious
IIsweet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:49 pm
He played all season and did the combine with a torn meniscus.
Hopefully his surgery will make him as good as new. Was he really a 4.34 guy before? Not combine so doesn't really matter anyway. Never trust any 40 time that isn't from the combine.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:55 pm
by VikingsVictorious
RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:26 pm
I wanted Gladney so I am very happy with his pick, will he be starting besides Hill or Hughes?
Probably on day one he will be one of our top 3 CBs and they play 70% of the time.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:11 pm
by VikingLord
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 pm
Vikings selected TCU CB Jeff Gladney with the No. 31 overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.
A four-year starter at TCU, Gladney (5’10/191) earned second-team All-Big 12 honors in 2018 after allowing an elite 4.7 yards per target before taking a step back in his final season (7.2 yards per target) as a perceived one-year wonder. An instinctual player with plus athleticism — according to the Horned Frogs' training staff, Gladney squats 620 pounds, benches 400, and hang cleans 400-plus — he made a career in shadowing a majority of the nation's top wideouts as one of only two FBS players with at least 15 passes defended in each of the last two seasons. Still, the red flags are there: He'll be 23 on draft night, tore his ACL and LCL in his senior year of high school, underwent meniscus surgery this past offseason, and was scratched from the 2020 Senior Bowl due to a sore knee. He also disappointed at Indy's combine, running a 4.48 40 (he clocked at 4.34 last offseason) and sluggish 7.26 three-cone (13th-percentile) in front of league execs. Gladney may be forced into a sub-package role at the next level given his size, but he has the tracking skills and traits to eventually man the perimeter as a No. 2.
I dont entirely agree with this write up. Something about this kid I think he's going to be a special player. Plus we gained a 4th and 5th which was brilliant trade back IMO. Those picks could be gold in a Trent Williams trade. Hopefully we move up tonight and take another highly touted player
What I like most about Gladney is his competitiveness.
One of the THE things that bugged me about Waynes was how lax he seemed on a lot of plays. Maybe it just seemed that way and he was really steamed when he got beat, but he just didn't seem to care all that much if he gave up a throw. Waynes was a good run defender, and I thought he was a decent overall CB, but it seemed like he was just doing his job most of the time.
Gladney, OTOH, does NOT like to get beat. He seems to be personally invested in the outcome of plays that go his way and plays that don't, and he is going to do everything in his power to minimize the number and frequency of those that don't. Gladney strikes me as a guy who, if he works hard and does the things he needs to do to prepare himself, can become a #1 corner in the NFL. The kind of guy who is going to give it everything he's got on every play he's out there and who will leave it all on the field. He has to get more consistent and learn the tricks of his trade, and hopefully Zimmer can help him with both challenges.
In the end I think the Vikes got two player leaders in Jefferson and Gladney. Guys who will hold themselves and those around them accountable. I hope Spielman can keep that going with his remaining picks in this draft.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 pm
by S197
He's physical, which is good but he's also handsy which is not good. He plays with emotion but it also gets him into trouble, he almost got suspended for throwing punches in a game.
His knees, poor 3-cone (a test of agility and fluidity), and production fall off his senior year is also concerning. I don't know, I don't hate the pick but it's a lot of red flags for a 1st round pick. I think he's more of a 2nd rounder and the Vikings reached a little.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:46 pm
by fiestavike
S197 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 pm
He's physical, which is good but he's also handsy which is not good. He plays with emotion but it also gets him into trouble, he almost got suspended for throwing punches in a game.
His knees, poor 3-cone (a test of agility and fluidity), and production fall off his senior year is also concerning. I don't know, I don't hate the pick but it's a lot of red flags for a 1st round pick. I think he's more of a 2nd rounder and the Vikings reached a little.
That makes me like him more!
The vikings have been way to soft and timid for way too long. We need someone to bring attitude to our defensive unit and to our offensive line. I thought that really showed last year against physical teams. We wilted.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:22 pm
by S197
If he can be that guy then great. But there's a different between playing with passion and losing your cool that hurts your team. I think coaching and time can help with those things.
Re: Vikings select CB- Jeff Gladney, TCU
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:57 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
VikingLord wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:11 pm
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 pm
I dont entirely agree with this write up. Something about this kid I think he's going to be a special player. Plus we gained a 4th and 5th which was brilliant trade back IMO. Those picks could be gold in a Trent Williams trade. Hopefully we move up tonight and take another highly touted player
What I like most about Gladney is his competitiveness.
One of the THE things that bugged me about Waynes was how lax he seemed on a lot of plays. Maybe it just seemed that way and he was really steamed when he got beat, but he just didn't seem to care all that much if he gave up a throw. Waynes was a good run defender, and I thought he was a decent overall CB, but it seemed like he was just doing his job most of the time.
Gladney, OTOH, does NOT like to get beat. He seems to be personally invested in the outcome of plays that go his way and plays that don't, and he is going to do everything in his power to minimize the number and frequency of those that don't. Gladney strikes me as a guy who, if he works hard and does the things he needs to do to prepare himself, can become a #1 corner in the NFL. The kind of guy who is going to give it everything he's got on every play he's out there and who will leave it all on the field. He has to get more consistent and learn the tricks of his trade, and hopefully Zimmer can help him with both challenges.
In the end I think the Vikes got two player leaders in Jefferson and Gladney. Guys who will hold themselves and those around them accountable. I hope Spielman can keep that going with his remaining picks in this draft.
Great post I agree. Gladney is a dog. He's a tough dude and a nasty corner.