StumpHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:03 pm
18th in TDs and 16th in yards is not a good year for a QB. Especially considering it was the best season of his career.
Dude come on.....he was about 200 yards away from being 12th in yards, which he would have had if he played all 16 games. As for TDs, he was also 2-3 tds away from being 15th or better. But the key is, interceptions. He threw 5 in 15 games. The only QBs that had less that year were Brady and Prescott. But let’s ignore that because it doesn’t help your argument stump.
When AP didn't run for a 100 yards, Teddy threw for an average of 120 yards more per game, and threw for twice as many TDs. When the you aren't running the ball well, you throw more, you have more passing yards and TDs (sound familiar). It wasn't even like they moved away from the run when AP wasn't running well either. So AP would get -1 on 1st down, 2 yards on 2nd, and then Teddy would have to pick up 3rd and 9. Which he actually did surprisingly well at. All because of AP though, who was more often than not on the sidelines on that down.
Again, come on. Twice as many TDs for Teddy huh? Those whopping 14 tds of his in a full season. 2 years in a row no less. You want to question Sam Bradford and Kirk Cousins but you’re gonna sit there and defend teddy? As a passer Teddy couldn’t hold Bradfords or cousins jock strap. But anything you can somehow find to try and make those two look bad is what you will do. Teddy was a great guy and all but he wasn’t much of a QB. At first I thought so but the fact that he didn’t improve hardly at all in year 2 wasn’t very promising. And bad knee or not, he’s yet to get a starting gig again and looked like a train wreck in a mop up game vs Carolina last year. So please, don’t sit here and try to defend him as a passer or even bother talking about his “TDs”. You just ripped Bradford for being “18th in tds” in 15 games but are defending Teddy when he went 2 years straight of 14tds, which is pathetic for a starting QB. No less Teddy also barely broke 3000 yards both years but you’re calling out Bradford for throwing for 3800+ in 15 games. Anything to help your argument!
And you’re saying Teddy had to deal with 3rd and 9’s. Cousins and Bradford didn’t?? AP carried that team and you know it. Hardly ever did a RB carry a game for either Bradford or Cousins. Cousins had 2 games out of 16 where he had a RB break 100 yards (Cook vs Miami/Murray vs Arz). Bradford had 0 out of 15 games. So TWO games out of 31 where either QB had a 100 yard rusher. Teddy had 8 of 16 games that year where AP broke 98 yards or more. Teddy had 4 times the 100 yard rushers in half the amount of games.
No less you completely missed my point regarding AP running over 100 vs AP crapping the bed. When AP went over 98 yards in 2015, we were 8-0. When he was under 98, we were 3-5. And in those 3 wins (KC, Chi and GB) Teddy had 1 good game vs a crap Chicago which happened to be his only 3+ TD game of his career. The KC game he threw 2 picks and barely broke 50% completion percentage and GB he threw for a pathetic 99 yards, barely broke 50% completion percentage and threw a pick. 2 of those 3 games were won on defense. And what does it show? That teddy couldn’t carry the weight when we needed him to. Not even just a little bit. It’s hard for any QB to but Teddy could hardly pull any wins out of it. One to be exact.
I would refrain from anymore Teddy talk if I was you because you’re drawing dead there. And it does nothing but hurt your argument because you’re defending a much worse QB than Cousins or Bradford. In the end, you’re just contradicting yourself by trying to defend Teddy in any way. He goes completely against what you, specifically, “look for” in a good QB and the stats show that. I’d quit while you’re ahead man. But go ahead and say “I wasn’t trying to defend Teddy but.....”
GB, Seattle, Houston and Philly were all 16th or better in scoring efficiency this past season. Seattle was 7th. What rankings were you looking at?
I went off total offense. Either way, 16th is average
No one ever said the QB was solely responsible for the offense sucking. You made that up.
That is exactly what you’re portraying!!! I didn’t make anything up. You’re actually sitting there as a die hard Vikings fan ripping Kirk cousins and Sam Bradford but defending Teddy Bridgewater?? You’ve done nothing but complain that Bradford and cousins didn’t win. Neither did the TEAM!! Teddy was a below average passer but they won because of AP and his defense. Case Keenum is a below average passer but they won because of their OC, RBs, OL and defense. How did either of those teams help cousins or Bradford? Outside of the defense which was good both years, what did the OC, OL or RBs do to help either of their QBs succeed??! I’ll tell you, nothing. And that’s the difference that you will forever miss and never understand.
Hope this helps.