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Which further supports my statement that WRs are a dime a dozen.
Im not opposed to a first round pick at WR, but he has to have a special kind of skill set that doesn't come along all to often. You can find quality WRs anywhere in the draft on a rather consistent basis, the same cant be said about the big guys.
Saying that any position is a dime a dozen is quite simply imprecise. Now that you've explained yourself (a great deal more) I see that you mean that quality WRs can be found in mid-rounds. That's pretty self-evident. The link DP posted is a very interesting analysis of where to find value at various positions in the draft.
I don't really care if we go WR in the first round, but I do want to invest in the position somewhere in the first 4 rounds. As the article points out, the Pack and Pats have consistently chosen WRs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and it's a strategy that's paid off for them. There are some quality guys we ought to be considering at 23, or perhaps trading into the top of the 2nd for.
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I know Tevaun personally. I am pulling for him. As I am with the rest of my Hawkeyes.dead_poet wrote:
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I found his time interesting. He doesn't seem to play that fast. Will be interesting to see if he's drafted. The Hawks don't have a great track record with receivers.HardcoreVikesFan wrote: I know Tevaun personally. I am pulling for him. As I am with the rest of my Hawkeyes.
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You guys, Treadwell may be there for the taking.
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Laquon Treadwell - WR - Player
Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell ran unofficial forty times of 4.65 and 4.63 at his Pro Day.
The numbers are not unexpected, but they are disappointing for a player thought to be the best receiver in this year's class. At 6-foot-2, 221 pounds, Treadwell creates separation with his size, route-running and ball skills, so the athletic concerns are not a death knell. Still, it is tough to justify taking a receiver who runs in the 4.6s and posted a 33-inch vertical at the combine early in the first round. Treadwell remains a day-one pick, but he is unlikely to be taken in the top 10.
Source: John Glennon on Twitter Mar 28 - 11:55 AM
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Related: I'm coming around on OSU's Michael Thomas in a pretty big way.
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Laquon Treadwell - WR - Player
Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell ran unofficial forty times of 4.65 and 4.63 at his Pro Day.
The numbers are not unexpected, but they are disappointing for a player thought to be the best receiver in this year's class. At 6-foot-2, 221 pounds, Treadwell creates separation with his size, route-running and ball skills, so the athletic concerns are not a death knell. Still, it is tough to justify taking a receiver who runs in the 4.6s and posted a 33-inch vertical at the combine early in the first round. Treadwell remains a day-one pick, but he is unlikely to be taken in the top 10.
Source: John Glennon on Twitter Mar 28 - 11:55 AM
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Related: I'm coming around on OSU's Michael Thomas in a pretty big way.
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Not great eitherAccording to scouts in attendance: Treadwell
short shuttle: 4.25
3 cone: 7.05
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Honestly I thought he would run a little slower after watching him on tape and seeing that he chose not to run at the combine.dead_poet wrote:You guys, Treadwell may be there for the taking.
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Laquon Treadwell - WR - Player
Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell ran unofficial forty times of 4.65 and 4.63 at his Pro Day.
The numbers are not unexpected, but they are disappointing for a player thought to be the best receiver in this year's class. At 6-foot-2, 221 pounds, Treadwell creates separation with his size, route-running and ball skills, so the athletic concerns are not a death knell. Still, it is tough to justify taking a receiver who runs in the 4.6s and posted a 33-inch vertical at the combine early in the first round. Treadwell remains a day-one pick, but he is unlikely to be taken in the top 10.
Source: John Glennon on Twitter Mar 28 - 11:55 AM
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Related: I'm coming around on OSU's Michael Thomas in a pretty big way.
He's certainly not a high measurable guy, and I'm not certain Rick is going to want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who isn't a special athlete.
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I will not be surprised if a team picking before the Vikings makes the question moot.fiestavike wrote: Honestly I thought he would run a little slower after watching him on tape and seeing that he chose not to run at the combine.
He's certainly not a high measurable guy, and I'm not certain Rick is going to want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who isn't a special athlete.
For me, the bigger question is whether Spielman will force a WR at #23 even if Treadwell is there.
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http://vikingsterritory.com/2016/scouti ... nny-lawlerDoctson is not the only TD maker in this class. Lawler scores every 5.3 catches. My sleeper pick is up
Pros
Good size and length with outstanding production in the red zone.
Plays physical and uses his hands well.
Can high point and pull down contested throws.
Great body control with excellent timing and anticipation.
Good athlete with open field wiggle.
One of the quickest releases from the line of scrimmage in this class.
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dead_poet wrote: http://vikingsterritory.com/2016/scouti ... nny-lawler
i'm a fan of lawler as well. i don't like to judge players on their youtube videos alone, but he makes a ton of tough contested catches. hard not to like what you see.
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He performed well in the reception perception metrics I posted as well. Reminds me a bit of Sidney Rice.slapnut19 wrote:
i'm a fan of lawler as well. i don't like to judge players on their youtube videos alone, but he makes a ton of tough contested catches. hard not to like what you see.
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Metrics/analytics to dive deeper in this receiving class.
The Combine to Uncover Pass Catchers
http://coldomaha.com/2016/vikings/combi ... -catchers/
The Combine to Uncover Pass Catchers
http://coldomaha.com/2016/vikings/combi ... -catchers/
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dead_poet wrote:Scouting report on Treadwell:
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2016/4/14/ ... ce=twitter
Yowzers. I'm no longer OK with taking Treadwell at #23.
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This might make you feel a bit better if he were the "consolidation prize."Texas Vike wrote:
Yowzers. I'm no longer OK with taking Treadwell at #23.
http://youtu.be/8Jf3BG5XK88
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